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Postby Nick » Sun Oct 02, 2022 9:45 pm

On tv for every goal ha

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Postby Hazy2 » Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:07 pm

Turned out nice again.
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Postby dazby » Mon Oct 03, 2022 7:11 am

Great to see signs from Grealish that he's showing a bit of confidence taking players on.

Loved the line up today.
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Postby PeterParker » Mon Oct 03, 2022 7:25 am

Watched MOTD, missed who had the coverage of our game, but he said something like:

Ferguson said in 2009 if City could ever be favorites when they play a derby and he said not in my life time.
Now it's every time.

:lol:

Also, incredible player Erling, but I think he knows the service behind him. He scored a lot with Salzburg and Dortmund, but he had plumbers behind him, to be honest. He has arguably three of the best midfielders the Premier League ever saw Gundo, Bernie and KDB, with the latter being one of the best that english football ever saw.

He is also blessed.
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Postby City64 » Mon Oct 03, 2022 7:39 am

A stand out tactically for us yesterday was the fact we moved the ball quicker when attacking or on the break without Rodri in the team . Both rag full backs on yellows after just 25 minutes or so they just couldn’t cope . It added another dimension to peps tactics and another way to play against certain teams . Rodri is however currently the best holding midfielder in the world right now and we are much more solid when he is playing , so many options as the season progresses it is frightening.
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Re: ***City vs ManUre official Match thread***

Postby johnny crossan » Mon Oct 03, 2022 7:51 am

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Haaland and Foden show what can happen when a top team are free to do what they want
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Whenever Pep Guardiola talks about “space to let them run”, he’s normally lamenting the opposition’s transitions, but Manchester City’s ruthless exploitation of the gaps in Manchester United’s midfield was the story of this chaotic derby, and perhaps of their evolution as a team.

And, clearly, it’s not all about Erling Haaland, who handed over his hat-trick match ball to Phil Foden, who also scored three on Sunday. In the end, they both walked off with one.

Guardiola said his City side have “a new weapon” in summer signing Haaland’s ability and willingness to run in behind and his arrival is surely the catalyst for this change, but the back-to-back Premier League champions have many strings to their bow and are now a fearsome prospect whenever they themselves are given space to run.

How they were given it by visitors United — and how they made it count.

Foden was another to take full advantage of all the open grass at the Etihad, but he and Haaland were backed up superbly by Kevin De Bruyne and Jack Grealish.

City don’t get to play like this often, of course, as teams prefer to sit back and deny them these spaces. So given a rare opportunity to use them, they were not going to miss out.
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The derby-day emotions were a little soured by United’s two late goals but the devastation wrought by City’s four principal forwards simply cannot be dampened, and the threat they pose will be evident again and again as the season goes on.

There are ways of analysing the more technical aspects of how City provoked and then exploited spaces in United’s setup, but this article will focus on the more crash-bang-wallop effect of really good footballers running fast and scoring lots of goals.

And, in fairness, a lot of other things. Like intelligent movement and, basically, demanding the ball all the time.

Look where Foden starts here — on City’s right and in possession.

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His time on the ball ends and he keeps moving into a central area, evading the attention of the United players.

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He wants the ball here…

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… here (he’s just goalside of, and almost obscured by, Christian Eriksen, United’s No 14)…



… and certainly here, as Eriksen’s fleeting interest in tracking him evaporates.



And what follows is a textbook Foden finish. He is a master at manoeuvring his body to convert when the ball is right under his feet in a position slightly outside of the goalframe.



After all, he did it against Wolves in City’s previous match on September 17…


… and against Chelsea a couple of seasons ago, in an almost exact copy of his first today.



There is nothing especially noteworthy about Haaland’s first goal, other than it came when City had just rampaged through United again and Raphael Varane had been injured blocking a shot.

With the Frenchman off the pitch getting treatment, United’s aerial presence was basically wiped out. Unfortunately for them, City had a corner, and Haaland towered over three players to head in, running off Eriksen and outjumping Scott McTominay.





His second of the day was classic Haaland and a classic City Haaland goal.

Look at how the move starts, with Grealish found in acres of space. The former Aston Villa man loved driving into those open spaces United offered, but on the day did not have the finishing touch of his fellow forwards.



His use of the ball was good, though, and when he found De Bruyne here it was essentially already 3-0.

The Belgian weighed up what was around him and knew where Haaland would be going. Look at the Norwegian here: as soon as the danger is live, he moves to Varane’s blind side.



The rest is just De Bruyne picking the perfect pass — for his eighth league assist in as many appearances this season — and Haaland doing what he does. De Bruyne’s chance creation has differed over recent seasons, with crosses from the right fading from his armoury, but he needs them again now City are playing with a true No 9 and he clearly still knows how to produce them.





City’s fourth goal had elements of the third. De Bruyne again features, with a trademark strong run that Eriksen tries to curtail with a trip but simply can’t.



Rather than carry the ball 50 yards, like he often does, the Belgian released Haaland, who curved his run around Victor Lindelof.



The big striker doesn’t look entirely comfortable when in crossing positions but you wouldn’t know it here: his low delivery is as good as anything De Bruyne might serve up…



… and local lad Foden made sure he was there to tuck it away.



As The Athletic highlighted after City’s win against Sevilla in the Champions League opener on September 6, Haaland is scoring an incredible amount of goals with one touch because his movement and finishing are of the highest level — and so is the way City create chances.

He now has hat-tricks in three consecutive home league games, the first time anybody has done that in the Premier League era — and look at where they were all scored from.



His hat-trick goal today was another classic first-time finish after an astute City move.

Grealish carries it forward and finds De Bruyne. Despite being central and theoretically in a position to take a shot himself or find Haaland, De Bruyne knows Sergio Gomez (bottom left) will be on the overlap.



Earlier, Grealish was the man central and found Gomez outside, only for the Spaniard’s low cross to be blocked.

Not this time.

Haaland doesn’t make any huge movement, he just checks back towards the penalty spot, buying himself a yard of space, as Gomez releases the ball and, sure enough, it finds him.



Foden’s hat-trick goal, City’s sixth, is an example of so many things, although it was a touch messier in the build-up than the others.

Look at Grealish pointing (the City player furthest right in the image below). He wants the ball to go to Foden, but Haaland gets in the way after both players make very similar runs, to the extent that the move seems to lose steam.



But how about this — the three United defenders are all drawn to Haaland as they are so worried about what he might do, but none of them is close enough to do anything about it. So Foden is onside, just waiting behind them, and again demanding the ball.



Haaland plays the right pass under belated pressure from Fred, and Foden, who will for sure have thought about the fact he was on a hat-trick, takes a split-second to settle himself and then simply strokes the ball past David de Gea.



The stats from the game paint the picture of individual and collective dominance.

Haaland’s three hat-tricks in a row, for one, but also that he has reached that milestone in just eight league games, beating the previous record of 48 set by Michael Owen by more than a season’s worth of league matches. He’s already scored as many Premier League hat-tricks as Cristiano Ronaldo has in his 232 appearances.

Foden scored his 49th, 50th and 51st goals for City, in the process becoming the youngest player to reach 50 goals under Guardiola, surpassing Lionel Messi by 37 days.

As much as this was — particularly the first half — a derby humiliation for United, it was also a demonstration of pitch-perfect technical execution by City.

If the City versus Liverpool games of the past year or so have shown us what happens when two top teams go toe-to-toe, City versus United ones have begun to show what happens when one top team is allowed to do exactly what they want to.
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Re: ***City vs ManUre official Match thread***

Postby Mase » Mon Oct 03, 2022 8:14 am

That Bruno is an odious creature. Always in the refs face moaning. Had half a good season and lives off it. The guys absolutely dog shit and brings nothing to the table apart from weird flicking out ears.
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Postby salford city » Mon Oct 03, 2022 8:44 am

Mase wrote:That Bruno is an odious creature. Always in the refs face moaning. Had half a good season and lives off it. The guys absolutely dog shit and brings nothing to the table apart from weird flicking out ears.


He is and always has been , a petulant tart. Not someone you want un there when the going gets tough.
They've got huge problems in that squad and it will get worse before it gets better
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Postby Mase » Mon Oct 03, 2022 8:53 am

Foden and Haaland were 11 years old when we beat United at OT 6-1 :lol:
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Postby Bluemoon4610 » Mon Oct 03, 2022 9:26 am

Mase wrote:Foden and Haaland were 11 years old when we beat United at OT 6-1 :lol:

Stop it, you're making me feel really old. :lol: :lol:
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Postby sheblue » Mon Oct 03, 2022 9:28 am

salford city wrote:
Mase wrote:That Bruno is an odious creature. Always in the refs face moaning. Had half a good season and lives off it. The guys absolutely dog shit and brings nothing to the table apart from weird flicking out ears.


He is and always has been , a petulant tart. Not someone you want un there when the going gets tough.
They've got huge problems in that squad and it will get worse before it gets better



They have spent a lot of money on players purely on what they thought they could do on the field. However as we all know the players character and attitude is equally important. This seems to be lost on all their 'quick fix' managers of the last decade.

Now crack on and give Tranny an extension.
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Postby johnny crossan » Mon Oct 03, 2022 4:46 pm

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Manchester City played high-speed digital football. United are a dial-up
Pep Guardiola’s Premier League champions took their game to a whole new level in the 6-3 trashing of their city neighbours

Barney Ronay 3 October 2022 Barney Ronay is chief sports writer for the Guardian
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Manchester City's Erling Haaland celebrates scoring their fifth goal with Jack Grealish and completing his hat-trick

“Yeah, not bad.” With 44 minutes gone at the Etihad Stadium Manchester City scored a goal that brought the usual cheers and roars, but also something else, the urge to laugh.

City had already spent the first half playing football that seemed to have benefited from an operating system upgrade, demonstrating the latest miracle processor against a batch of red-shirted patsies.

The move to make it 4-0 was a moment of super-compression, lines cut in a perfect zigzag from outside City’s penalty area to the far left-hand corner of the Manchester United goal without friction or drag or loss of scale.

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It took eight touches to make it, starting with Kevin De Bruyne surging through the centre, shrugging Christian Eriksen off like a rugby centre while delivering a fine touch to Erling Haaland. The pass basically told Haaland what to do. He took one touch to make the space then curled a dream of a pass that took out three defenders and found Phil Foden, already networked into this, already in the chat, bullocking through to zing the ball into the corner.

And in that moment 4-0 really didn’t feel like a stretch, or a surprise, or even much of a humiliation for United, who had spent that half chasing ghosts and shadows, shapes at the edge of their eyeline.

By the end a 6-3 defeat was even quite generous. But then this was also a strange game, not the usual thrashing, some tactical oversight exploited, or a career-high performance. It felt like something else, the result of unarguable maths. On the one hand a mortal, everyday football team, all joins and cuts and snagged gears. On the other a blend of pure imagination and bottomless resources, 12 years in the making, finessed and refined to create this fine pitch of touch and movement. And yes Haaland was right. It wasn’t bad.

Haaland will draw the eye naturally. He scored a brilliant hat-trick and never at any stage looked like doing anything other than scoring a brilliant hat-trick. All being well Haaland will score 78 league goals this season at his current rate. This is obviously an impossibility. Something will happen to stop him scoring. But what exactly? It’s not like he’s on a hot streak or playing above himself.

After that poor start in the Community Shield some cautious judges had suggested Haaland would take time to settle at City. And they were right. It did take time. It took one game. “If I time my runs properly I know that no one can stop them,” he said before this game. This might sound like arrogance from another footballer. With Haaland it’s just true. He’s run the numbers. It’s empirical fact. Just letting you know.

Haaland’s first here, City’s second, was made by a vast standing jump in from a corner, the kind of leap that is beyond most humans of this size, the kind of leap where Haaland seems briefly to blot out the sun. His second (3-0) was a hooked left-foot finish from one of those De Bruyne passes that step outside the usual categories of cross and through ball to create some new kind of trajectory, an angle that exists at De Bruyne degrees to the earth.

Later Haaland helped make Foden’s own hat-trick goal, and this was slack from United, who allowed Haaland to turn and find a pass. It has become a commonplace to suggest Haaland resembles an adult playing with children. This was like an adult playing with mediocre children.
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For all the starry moments a big part of what City did here was their defensive cover and the architecture of the midfield. They counter-pressed fiercely. There was a glimpse of how Pep Guardiola might make this iteration work in a high-speed opening spell in which Jack Grealish and Foden stayed wide, while De Bruyne kept shifting sides to double up: like some super-slick version of old‑school 4-4-2, Wilcox and Ripley with Shearer in the middle, but replaced by a blur of blue-shirted overlaps and an insatiable Nordic goal-devourer.

Phil Foden celebrates scoring Manchester City's sixth goal with Erling Haaland, completing his hat-trick, against Manchester United in the Premier League match at the Etihad Stadium
Manchester City humiliate United as Haaland and Foden hit derby hat-tricks

What really happened here was United met opponents operating on another plane, high-speed digital football versus a kind of hand-cranked dial-up version, football yelled down a piece of twine between two cans.

What are we to make of this? Are there notes of doom in City’s brilliance? The president of La Liga, Javier Tebas, spoke again this weekend about nation-state super-clubs skewing the field, killing competition and so on.

But that kind of talk just doesn’t add up at this elite level. Both of these teams have spent vast amounts of money, as have Real Madrid and Barcelona.

The difference is that City have done it well, have cheated by removing human frailty, short-term commercial greed, boardroom stupidity from the equation. Chuck in bottomless resources and the greatest coach in the world and the result is this: something without edges or drag, a project that will perhaps soon reach its final expression; and which in Guardiola’s hands remains unarguably a thing of beauty.
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Re: ***City vs ManUre official Match thread***

Postby Dimples » Mon Oct 03, 2022 5:33 pm

sheblue wrote:
salford city wrote:
Mase wrote:That Bruno is an odious creature. Always in the refs face moaning. Had half a good season and lives off it. The guys absolutely dog shit and brings nothing to the table apart from weird flicking out ears.


He is and always has been , a petulant tart. Not someone you want un there when the going gets tough.
They've got huge problems in that squad and it will get worse before it gets better



They have spent a lot of money on players purely on what they thought they could do on the field. However as we all know the players character and attitude is equally important. This seems to be lost on all their 'quick fix' managers of the last decade.

Now crack on and give Tranny an extension.


I would not include Mourinho in that list. He called out several of them, Pogba, Martial, Shaw and Rashford....... Looks like he was correct.
Thankfully, three of them are still there and two of them seem to be first choice picks :shock:
I would also include Sancho in that lot. He has the talent but I don't think he has the character and drive to match it.
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Postby Dameerto » Mon Oct 03, 2022 5:35 pm

Dimples wrote:
sheblue wrote:
salford city wrote:
Mase wrote:That Bruno is an odious creature. Always in the refs face moaning. Had half a good season and lives off it. The guys absolutely dog shit and brings nothing to the table apart from weird flicking out ears.


He is and always has been , a petulant tart. Not someone you want un there when the going gets tough.
They've got huge problems in that squad and it will get worse before it gets better



They have spent a lot of money on players purely on what they thought they could do on the field. However as we all know the players character and attitude is equally important. This seems to be lost on all their 'quick fix' managers of the last decade.

Now crack on and give Tranny an extension.


I would not include Mourinho in that list. He called out several of them, Pogba, Martial, Shaw and Rashford....... Looks like he was correct.
Thankfully, three of them are still there and two of them seem to be first choice picks :shock:
I would also include Sancho in that lot. He has the talent but I don't think he has the character and drive to match it.

Mourinho also claimed his greatest achievement in the Premier League was finishing second with that shower of shite - I can see what he means.
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Postby Mase » Mon Oct 03, 2022 9:06 pm

Where he’s stopped that video for Foden’s last goal - Foden is clearly miles onside. Sky stopped it further on so it looked close. Cheating twats.
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