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Re: Message For Phil Foden

Postby Bear60 » Tue Dec 06, 2022 12:13 am

No one has mentioned his assists against Senegal
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Re: Message For Phil Foden

Postby Tokyo Blue » Tue Dec 06, 2022 6:59 am

Almost as if it is a concerted effort to airbrush him from history, Stalin style.
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Re: Message For Phil Foden

Postby belleebee » Tue Dec 06, 2022 9:21 am

Tokyo Blue wrote:Almost as if it is a concerted effort to airbrush him from history, Stalin style.


To be fair, there’s been a lot of praise for Foden’s contribution the other night. I particularly liked this piece (from a somewhat unlikely source perhaps). Worth reading some of the comments too for reassurance that Phil is not just appreciated by City fans.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/bl ... e_btn_link
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Re: Message For Phil Foden

Postby Dimples » Tue Dec 06, 2022 3:20 pm

belleebee wrote:
Tokyo Blue wrote:Almost as if it is a concerted effort to airbrush him from history, Stalin style.


To be fair, there’s been a lot of praise for Foden’s contribution the other night. I particularly liked this piece (from a somewhat unlikely source perhaps). Worth reading some of the comments too for reassurance that Phil is not just appreciated by City fans.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/bl ... e_btn_link


To be fair, Henderson and Rashford have got more praise than Phil.
To be fair, if Phil played for MU or Liverpool, and the other two played for us (God forbid), would the headlines have been different?
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Re: Message For Phil Foden

Postby belleebee » Tue Dec 06, 2022 4:27 pm

Dimples wrote:
belleebee wrote:
Tokyo Blue wrote:Almost as if it is a concerted effort to airbrush him from history, Stalin style.


To be fair, there’s been a lot of praise for Foden’s contribution the other night. I particularly liked this piece (from a somewhat unlikely source perhaps). Worth reading some of the comments too for reassurance that Phil is not just appreciated by City fans.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/bl ... e_btn_link


To be fair, Henderson and Rashford have got more praise than Phil.
To be fair, if Phil played for MU or Liverpool, and the other two played for us (God forbid), would the headlines have been different?


Well, to be fair, what you say may well be true but it’s a far wider issue than the one that my post related to. We know the audience most of the press plays to most of the time. I don’t like it any more than you or any other City fan does but I’ve learned to live with it by largely ignoring it and enjoying the praise our club and players get when it (very occasionally) comes along.
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Re: Message For Phil Foden

Postby Dimples » Tue Dec 06, 2022 9:32 pm

belleebee wrote:
Dimples wrote:
belleebee wrote:
Tokyo Blue wrote:Almost as if it is a concerted effort to airbrush him from history, Stalin style.


To be fair, there’s been a lot of praise for Foden’s contribution the other night. I particularly liked this piece (from a somewhat unlikely source perhaps). Worth reading some of the comments too for reassurance that Phil is not just appreciated by City fans.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/bl ... e_btn_link


To be fair, Henderson and Rashford have got more praise than Phil.
To be fair, if Phil played for MU or Liverpool, and the other two played for us (God forbid), would the headlines have been different?


Well, to be fair, what you say may well be true but it’s a far wider issue than the one that my post related to. We know the audience most of the press plays to most of the time. I don’t like it any more than you or any other City fan does but I’ve learned to live with it by largely ignoring it and enjoying the praise our club and players get when it (very occasionally) comes along.


That approach makes sense to me.
Certainly better than mine which raises my blood pressure over stuff I have no control over.
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Re: Message For Phil Foden

Postby belleebee » Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:10 am

Dimples wrote:
belleebee wrote:
Dimples wrote:
belleebee wrote:
Tokyo Blue wrote:Almost as if it is a concerted effort to airbrush him from history, Stalin style.


To be fair, there’s been a lot of praise for Foden’s contribution the other night. I particularly liked this piece (from a somewhat unlikely source perhaps). Worth reading some of the comments too for reassurance that Phil is not just appreciated by City fans.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/bl ... e_btn_link


To be fair, Henderson and Rashford have got more praise than Phil.
To be fair, if Phil played for MU or Liverpool, and the other two played for us (God forbid), would the headlines have been different?


Well, to be fair, what you say may well be true but it’s a far wider issue than the one that my post related to. We know the audience most of the press plays to most of the time. I don’t like it any more than you or any other City fan does but I’ve learned to live with it by largely ignoring it and enjoying the praise our club and players get when it (very occasionally) comes along.


That approach makes sense to me.
Certainly better than mine which raises my blood pressure over stuff I have no control over.


TBH I suspect I’m a bit more relaxed than many (though possibly not all) who post on here. Today’s press reportage is governed by financial considerations and the need to produce headlines that generate ‘clicks’ (not just relating to football, of course). This is an anathema to me, but I see and (reluctantly) accept the logic. The positive side of this is that I don’t pay too much attention to the ludicrous over-hyping of the achievements of rival teams and their players. As I’ve found, though, there are quite a few positive views of City and our achievements in the media and I tend to focus on those that present a positive view of our club. A good example of this (further to Liew’s piece on Phil) is:

https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... -home-life
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Re: Message For Phil Foden

Postby nottsblue » Wed Dec 07, 2022 7:26 am

Fascinating article on KDB. Thanks for posting BLB
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Re: Message For Phil Foden

Postby Mase » Wed Dec 07, 2022 9:34 am

I think it’s all well and good knowing that the media are playing to their audience (Red shite) but the main issue for me is the obvious lies they constantly print about City. It’s one thing bigging up absolute bang average players like Henderson, but to then publish a story about City being “state owned” or some other negative bullshit - that’s where we need to be drawing the line.

The story about Kev is nice, but as the author says in their first sentence, they’re a City fan. Nice of him to do that though - how often do we have some Irish rag print a story about how Rashford is world class. They don’t preface it with “oh by the way I’m a rag” - so why do we have it?
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Re: Message For Phil Foden

Postby johnny crossan » Wed Dec 07, 2022 10:05 am

belleebee wrote:
Dimples wrote:
belleebee wrote:
Dimples wrote:
belleebee wrote:
To be fair, there’s been a lot of praise for Foden’s contribution the other night. I particularly liked this piece (from a somewhat unlikely source perhaps). Worth reading some of the comments too for reassurance that Phil is not just appreciated by City fans.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/bl ... e_btn_link


To be fair, Henderson and Rashford have got more praise than Phil.
To be fair, if Phil played for MU or Liverpool, and the other two played for us (God forbid), would the headlines have been different?


Well, to be fair, what you say may well be true but it’s a far wider issue than the one that my post related to. We know the audience most of the press plays to most of the time. I don’t like it any more than you or any other City fan does but I’ve learned to live with it by largely ignoring it and enjoying the praise our club and players get when it (very occasionally) comes along.


That approach makes sense to me.
Certainly better than mine which raises my blood pressure over stuff I have no control over.


TBH I suspect I’m a bit more relaxed than many (though possibly not all) who post on here. Today’s press reportage is governed by financial considerations and the need to produce headlines that generate ‘clicks’ (not just relating to football, of course). This is an anathema to me, but I see and (reluctantly) accept the logic. The positive side of this is that I don’t pay too much attention to the ludicrous over-hyping of the achievements of rival teams and their players. As I’ve found, though, there are quite a few positive views of City and our achievements in the media and I tend to focus on those that present a positive view of our club. A good example of this (further to Liew’s piece on Phil) is:

https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... -home-life

They take some finding these positive pieces, particularly in the Guardian ! There is a poisonous group of Jewish and vehemently anti-Arab journos in there, several of whom are/were City supporters. Hattenstone is one such along with Ronay, Conn and Wilson but Liew is recently arrived from the Saudi-funded Deloony bunch of haters at the Independent. They all carefully disassociate their praise of our players from the club itself whose owners they seek to destroy.
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Re: Message For Phil Foden

Postby Mase » Wed Dec 07, 2022 10:59 am

johnny crossan wrote:They take some finding these positive pieces, particularly in the Guardian ! There is a poisonous group of Jewish and vehemently anti-Arab journos in there, several of whom are/were City supporters. Hattenstone is one such along with Ronay, Conn and Wilson but Liew is recently arrived from the Saudi-funded Deloony bunch of haters at the Independent. They all carefully disassociate their praise of our players from the club itself whose owners they seek to destroy.


Ah that makes sense then. Over the last week they’ve published some nonsense pieces about Christianity - attacking it and pushing for it to be abolished in the UK.

Makes total sense when you realise what time of year it is.
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Re: Message For Phil Foden

Postby johnny crossan » Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:18 pm

Mase wrote:
johnny crossan wrote:They take some finding these positive pieces, particularly in the Guardian ! There is a poisonous group of Jewish and vehemently anti-Arab journos in there, several of whom are/were City supporters. Hattenstone is one such along with Ronay, Conn and Wilson but Liew is recently arrived from the Saudi-funded Deloony bunch of haters at the Independent. They all carefully disassociate their praise of our players from the club itself whose owners they seek to destroy.


Ah that makes sense then. Over the last week they’ve published some nonsense pieces about Christianity - attacking it and pushing for it to be abolished in the UK.

Makes total sense when you realise what time of year it is.
Abolition of Christianity ? Not a very liberal idea but must I have missed those articles - can you ref please?
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Re: Message For Phil Foden

Postby Mase » Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:29 pm

johnny crossan wrote:
Mase wrote:
johnny crossan wrote:They take some finding these positive pieces, particularly in the Guardian ! There is a poisonous group of Jewish and vehemently anti-Arab journos in there, several of whom are/were City supporters. Hattenstone is one such along with Ronay, Conn and Wilson but Liew is recently arrived from the Saudi-funded Deloony bunch of haters at the Independent. They all carefully disassociate their praise of our players from the club itself whose owners they seek to destroy.


Ah that makes sense then. Over the last week they’ve published some nonsense pieces about Christianity - attacking it and pushing for it to be abolished in the UK.

Makes total sense when you realise what time of year it is.
Abolition of Christianity ? Not a very liberal idea but must I have missed those articles - can you ref please?


They seem to have a hard-on for Christianity at the moment -

https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/dec/04/cant-blame-immigration-if-britain-no-longer-can-see-itself-christian-country

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2022/dec/02/i-couldnt-pretend-any-more-readers-on-why-they-left-the-christian-faith

This one is a particularly misleading headline -
https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/nov/29/calls-grow-to-disestablish-church-of-england-as-christians-become-minority

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2022/nov/29/young-uk-people-speak-out-against-evangelical-church-universal-kingdom-god


Maybe Christianity is the new Man City? Zero positive articles and loads to try and shit on it.
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Re: Message For Phil Foden

Postby johnny crossan » Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:14 pm

Mase wrote:
johnny crossan wrote:
Mase wrote:
johnny crossan wrote:They take some finding these positive pieces, particularly in the Guardian ! There is a poisonous group of Jewish and vehemently anti-Arab journos in there, several of whom are/were City supporters. Hattenstone is one such along with Ronay, Conn and Wilson but Liew is recently arrived from the Saudi-funded Deloony bunch of haters at the Independent. They all carefully disassociate their praise of our players from the club itself whose owners they seek to destroy.
Ah that makes sense then. Over the last week they’ve published some nonsense pieces about Christianity - attacking it and pushing for it to be abolished in the UK.Makes total sense when you realise what time of year it is.
Abolition of Christianity ? Not a very liberal idea but must I have missed those articles - can you ref please?
They seem to have a hard-on for Christianity at the moment -
https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/dec/04/cant-blame-immigration-if-britain-no-longer-can-see-itself-christian-country
https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2022/dec/02/i-couldnt-pretend-any-more-readers-on-why-they-left-the-christian-faith
This one is a particularly misleading headline -
https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/nov/29/calls-grow-to-disestablish-church-of-england-as-christians-become-minority
https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2022/nov/29/young-uk-people-speak-out-against-evangelical-church-universal-kingdom-god
Maybe Christianity is the new Man City? Zero positive articles and loads to try and shit on it.
In my salad days it was fashionable to be an atheist and the inveterate variety like Dawkins later came to have celebrity status - all good stuff and intelligent debate was often stimulated as a result. Now both atheism and theism are a bridge too far for a large percent of under 40s - basically religion doesn't resonate at all with most younger people. The wonders of the internet appear to satisfy their appetite for answers to the 'big questions' by providing other things to think about. Hope it doesn't get switched off ;)
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Re: Message For Phil Foden

Postby Mase » Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:25 pm

johnny crossan wrote:
Mase wrote:
johnny crossan wrote:
Mase wrote:
johnny crossan wrote:They take some finding these positive pieces, particularly in the Guardian ! There is a poisonous group of Jewish and vehemently anti-Arab journos in there, several of whom are/were City supporters. Hattenstone is one such along with Ronay, Conn and Wilson but Liew is recently arrived from the Saudi-funded Deloony bunch of haters at the Independent. They all carefully disassociate their praise of our players from the club itself whose owners they seek to destroy.
Ah that makes sense then. Over the last week they’ve published some nonsense pieces about Christianity - attacking it and pushing for it to be abolished in the UK.Makes total sense when you realise what time of year it is.
Abolition of Christianity ? Not a very liberal idea but must I have missed those articles - can you ref please?
They seem to have a hard-on for Christianity at the moment -
https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/dec/04/cant-blame-immigration-if-britain-no-longer-can-see-itself-christian-country
https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2022/dec/02/i-couldnt-pretend-any-more-readers-on-why-they-left-the-christian-faith
This one is a particularly misleading headline -
https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/nov/29/calls-grow-to-disestablish-church-of-england-as-christians-become-minority
https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2022/nov/29/young-uk-people-speak-out-against-evangelical-church-universal-kingdom-god
Maybe Christianity is the new Man City? Zero positive articles and loads to try and shit on it.
In my salad days it was fashionable to be an atheist and the inveterate variety like Dawkins later came to have celebrity status - all good stuff and and intelligent debate was simulated as a result. Now both atheism and theism are a bridge too far for a large percent of the under 40s - basically religion doesn't resonate at all with most younger people. The wonders of the internet often seem to satisfy their appetite for answers to the 'big questions' by providing other things to think about. Hope it doesn't get switched off ;)


Absolutely agree. The younger generation would rather worship a celebrity on a Sunday morning by watching that celebrities Instagram Reels for hours.
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Re: Message For Phil Foden

Postby johnny crossan » Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:45 pm

Mase wrote:
johnny crossan wrote:
In my salad days it was fashionable to be an atheist and the inveterate variety like Dawkins later came to have celebrity status - all good stuff and and intelligent debate was simulated as a result. Now both atheism and theism are a bridge too far for a large percent of the under 40s - basically religion doesn't resonate at all with most younger people. The wonders of the internet often seem to satisfy their appetite for answers to the 'big questions' by providing other things to think about. Hope it doesn't get switched off ;)


Absolutely agree. The younger generation would rather worship a celebrity on a Sunday morning by watching that celebrities Instagram Reels for hours.

Watch on youtube.com
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Re: Message For Phil Foden

Postby Beefymcfc » Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:41 pm

johnny crossan wrote:
Mase wrote:
johnny crossan wrote:
In my salad days it was fashionable to be an atheist and the inveterate variety like Dawkins later came to have celebrity status - all good stuff and and intelligent debate was simulated as a result. Now both atheism and theism are a bridge too far for a large percent of the under 40s - basically religion doesn't resonate at all with most younger people. The wonders of the internet often seem to satisfy their appetite for answers to the 'big questions' by providing other things to think about. Hope it doesn't get switched off ;)


Absolutely agree. The younger generation would rather worship a celebrity on a Sunday morning by watching that celebrities Instagram Reels for hours.

Watch on youtube.com

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