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Re: Tevez captain...

Postby BlueMoonAwoken » Sun Aug 15, 2010 6:55 am

I think if you want to win a league title it does, I just think there is lots of issues surrounding lauguage and some players not understaning what "man on" means but i think these players need 2 or 3 seasons together in england. Then i think we could see how good this team could be.
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Re: Tevez captain...

Postby The Foggy Blue » Mon Aug 16, 2010 9:29 am

Kompany HAS to be made captain. He is far and away, the most natural leader we have. He plays in the right part of the pitch, speaks perfect English and leads by example. The bigger the occasion the better he plays.

He is well up for the task facing City now.

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Vincent Kompany said: "As a player, if you pay too much attention to that, it has an effect on your game." The defender, who signed from Hamburg in August 2008, one week before the Abu Dhabi United Group's takeover, went on: "In 24 months, I have seen the most crazy things so nothing will get me unsettled."

He added: "75% of what is being said on the sports channels is about City. There is an expectation, there is pressure, there are surprises about players coming in. Everybody has his feelings about it but a while ago I decided not to pay attention to anything that is happening around.

"I understand the situation, I have no problem with people giving their opinion and not being happy about it but we always go out to play football. The games are going to keep coming and people are being patient. We are trying to create a team spirit rather than get divided about stuff."

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Re: Tevez captain...

Postby Beeks » Mon Aug 16, 2010 9:43 am

I love little Apache but Captain?!

He can't speak a word of English!
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Re: Tevez captain...

Postby mcfc1632 » Mon Aug 16, 2010 11:10 am

I think that the captain can only be one of the players guaranteed a start - there are not many options there and this rules out Nige, Kolo and perhaps Vince also - only really presents Ya Ya and Carlos as candidates
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Re: Tevez captain...

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Mon Aug 16, 2010 11:16 am

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xavi6 wrote:I'd give the armband to Nasty Nige. The guy is a hero.


i agree with this. i love him. In a match like today. It's when we play teams who have little interest in playing football where ironically his hardman/tough guy technique gets lost in translation. Too small to win much in the air he often struggles against the Stokes of the world, etc.

Tevez has mentioned how hard he is finding it to motivate himself, and i think Mancini was just trying to throw him a life preserver. When your No 1 Employee comes out and says he isn't so sure about what he's doing with his life it probably can illicit strange responses, and i think Roberto's man management response was to say "Take us higher Carlitos. Here's a mission son."

can't imagine it will last more than a couple matches, but...who knows. My point is that it's ceremonial. A gesture.

Related, do captains matter anymore?
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Re: Tevez captain...

Postby HeyMark » Mon Aug 16, 2010 11:24 am

I usually think that a captain should always be a defender or midfielder because they've more influence on the game than a striker or goalkeeper but I'm fucking loving carlos as captain
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Re: Tevez captain...

Postby ant london » Mon Aug 16, 2010 11:27 am

Did Tevez not captain us to start with vs Valencia also?

personally he doesn't seem the most eloquent of captains....but to echo the Doom Merchant I think this was done for other reasons (motivate Tevez, show him the love, separate him from the unrest). Personally don't think it's a bad thing that he can't understand or communicate with refs....he can keep his nose clean that way. AND we have plenty of vocal strong characters in the squad to step up and get people focussed and motivated on or off the pitch.

I would be happy for the armband to be passed between Nigel, Vincent, Yaya and Carlos tbh
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Re: Tevez captain...

Postby Ted Hughes » Mon Aug 16, 2010 11:28 am

I don't like making captains out of strikers on the whole or putting extra responsibility on players who have been playing brilliantly. I'm open minded on this one though. It seems to have upped Toure's game, so that may have been a bit of a masterstroke.

Also Tevez is probably the only player at the club Mancini is 100% confident, is reliable & good enough to get in the starting 11 for any game if required.
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Re: Tevez captain...

Postby Murph » Mon Aug 16, 2010 11:32 am

Tevez will lead by example on the park but I have a feeling he has been given the armband to keep him sweet.
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Re: Tevez captain...

Postby avoidconfusion » Mon Aug 16, 2010 12:15 pm

I don't really see a problem with Tevez being the player to wear the armband... he certainly is an inspiration for everyone on the pitch in terms of workrate and passion.

Germany have had Lahm as their Captain, but Schweinsteiger was acting like a Captain as well, so that is not a problem I think.
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Re: Tevez captain...

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Mon Aug 16, 2010 12:22 pm

avoidconfusion wrote:I don't really see a problem with Tevez being the player to wear the armband... he certainly is an inspiration for everyone on the pitch in terms of workrate and passion.

Germany have had Lahm as their Captain, but Schweinsteiger was acting like a Captain as well, so that is not a problem I think.


Didn't Hitzelsberger wear the arm band for Germany last week? And to think people said I'm out of my mind when I said that Hitzelsberger will be a great signing for West Ham.
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Re: Tevez captain...

Postby Ted Hughes » Mon Aug 16, 2010 12:27 pm

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
avoidconfusion wrote:I don't really see a problem with Tevez being the player to wear the armband... he certainly is an inspiration for everyone on the pitch in terms of workrate and passion.

Germany have had Lahm as their Captain, but Schweinsteiger was acting like a Captain as well, so that is not a problem I think.


Didn't Hitzelsberger wear the arm band for Germany last week? And to think people said I'm out of my mind when I said that Hitzelsberger will be a great signing for West Ham.


It had nothing to do with your Hitzelsberger comments. ;-)

P.S. Next thing you'll be saying Lahm is a top player because he gets in their team.

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Re: Tevez captain...

Postby avoidconfusion » Mon Aug 16, 2010 12:46 pm

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
avoidconfusion wrote:I don't really see a problem with Tevez being the player to wear the armband... he certainly is an inspiration for everyone on the pitch in terms of workrate and passion.

Germany have had Lahm as their Captain, but Schweinsteiger was acting like a Captain as well, so that is not a problem I think.


Didn't Hitzelsberger wear the arm band for Germany last week? And to think people said I'm out of my mind when I said that Hitzelsberger will be a great signing for West Ham.


I must admit I didn't watch the game but it was just a friendly. I don't even know if Lahm played to be honest, he was made Captain because of Ballack's injury.

Hitzlsberger is a great player. Very good signing for West Ham imho.
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Re: Tevez captain...

Postby brite blu sky » Mon Aug 16, 2010 12:47 pm

ant london wrote:
I would be happy for the armband to be passed between Nigel, Vincent, Yaya and Carlos tbh


im not a big fan of this idea.. i think during games they should just concentrate on football and not be passing the armband around all the time.
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Re: Tevez captain...

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Mon Aug 16, 2010 1:13 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
avoidconfusion wrote:I don't really see a problem with Tevez being the player to wear the armband... he certainly is an inspiration for everyone on the pitch in terms of workrate and passion.

Germany have had Lahm as their Captain, but Schweinsteiger was acting like a Captain as well, so that is not a problem I think.


Didn't Hitzelsberger wear the arm band for Germany last week? And to think people said I'm out of my mind when I said that Hitzelsberger will be a great signing for West Ham.


It had nothing to do with your Hitzelsberger comments. ;-)

P.S. Next thing you'll be saying Lahm is a top player because he gets in their team.

(sneaks away giggling)


I don't think Lahm would make it into West Ham team.
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