Glory Hunting Band-Waggon Jumpers

[ronk]

Survival of the genes that promote characteristics that are benefical to an organism.
That was not really how I meant it to come across.I was trying to be sarcastic.

All I am trying to say Mr.Bond is by going to the match you are doing something you enjoy.For me that doesn't show loyalty.

And I thought you were making a sarcastic reference to The Selfish Gene, by Richard Dawkins, an important popular science book about cultural evolution and gene-centric evolution.

Attending a football match is not an altruistic act, except that shouting for your team is. Good support can lift a team, so positive support is most welcome when a team is not playing well, it can provide a lift. This extends to matches where support would otherwise be low. I'm sure you've seen plenty of times posts on this board by fans trying to drum up support for midweek fixtures and away days in dreary locations. They're doing this out of loyalty to the club. People who stay until the 90th minute and applaud the team when it's a cold wet Novembers night where we've been thrashed 4-0 and haven't had a chance all game, that's loyalty. There's no practical way for loyalty points to record this form of loyalty, but they can ensure that the fans who show up every week aren't displaced for the glamour events. This is a business decision by the club that benefits the club financially, and it benefits the majority of fans.

[Rag_hater]

Survival of the genes that promote characteristics that are benefical to an organism.
That was not really how I meant it to come across.I was trying to be sarcastic.

All I am trying to say Mr.Bond is by going to the match you are doing something you enjoy.For me that doesn't show loyalty.

And I thought you were making a sarcastic reference to The Selfish Gene, by Richard Dawkins, an important popular science book about cultural evolution and gene-centric evolution.

Attending a football match is not an altruistic act, except that shouting for your team is. Good support can lift a team, so positive support is most welcome when a team is not playing well, it can provide a lift. This extends to matches where support would otherwise be low. I'm sure you've seen plenty of times posts on this board by fans trying to drum up support for midweek fixtures and away days in dreary locations. They're doing this out of loyalty to the club. People who stay until the 90th minute and applaud the team when it's a cold wet Novembers night where we've been thrashed 4-0 and haven't had a chance all game, that's loyalty. There's no practical way for loyalty points to record this form of loyalty, but they can ensure that the fans who show up every week aren't displaced for the glamour events. This is a business decision by the club that benefits the club financially, and it benefits the majority of fans.

Humans, demonstrate "Machiavellian Intelligence" that masks selfishness as altruism. For example, the act of helping another person or the team appears to be altruistic, but it is actually an act of self-interest. By helping others in a group, the individual increases their chances of being helped by the group. The apparent act of altruism is actually an act of selfishness known as reciprocal altruism.

[Arjan Van Schotte]

and this is why wikipedia was invented - so clearly uneducated cuntflaps could post knowingly on an internet forum.

[bluej]

Survival of the genes that promote characteristics that are benefical to an organism.
That was not really how I meant it to come across.I was trying to be sarcastic.

All I am trying to say Mr.Bond is by going to the match you are doing something you enjoy.For me that doesn't show loyalty.

And I thought you were making a sarcastic reference to The Selfish Gene, by Richard Dawkins, an important popular science book about cultural evolution and gene-centric evolution.

Attending a football match is not an altruistic act, except that shouting for your team is. Good support can lift a team, so positive support is most welcome when a team is not playing well, it can provide a lift. This extends to matches where support would otherwise be low. I'm sure you've seen plenty of times posts on this board by fans trying to drum up support for midweek fixtures and away days in dreary locations. They're doing this out of loyalty to the club. People who stay until the 90th minute and applaud the team when it's a cold wet Novembers night where we've been thrashed 4-0 and haven't had a chance all game, that's loyalty. There's no practical way for loyalty points to record this form of loyalty, but they can ensure that the fans who show up every week aren't displaced for the glamour events. This is a business decision by the club that benefits the club financially, and it benefits the majority of fans.

Humans, demonstrate "Machiavellian Intelligence" that masks selfishness as altruism. For example, the act of helping another person or the team appears to be altruistic, but it is actually an act of self-interest. By helping others in a group, the individual increases their chances of being helped by the group. The apparent act of altruism is actually an act of selfishness known as reciprocal altruism.

So how does that work when we're down in the 3rd tier and still pulling 30k+?

[ronk]

Humans, demonstrate "Machiavellian Intelligence" that masks selfishness as altruism. For example, the act of helping another person or the team appears to be altruistic, but it [strike]is[/strike] actually an act of self-interest. By helping others in a group, the individual increases their chances of being helped by the group. The apparent act of altruism is actually an act of selfishness known as reciprocal altruism.

MIGHT BE, it could actually really be altruistic.

We're getting into an ethical and morale minefield. The problem is that selfishness is a vague word that is inadequate to describe the wide variety of states it might refer to. By one measure almost any event can be interpreted as selfish (sacrificing your own life to save a total stranger, being a rare exception). In the context in which you originally used it, the most common interpretation would be the relative form of selfishness: it's okay to be a little bit selfish, but the term is normally used to refer to people whose selfishness exceeds the socially acceptable limit. This is of course an insult.

[john68]

So little bait...yet so many fish....:-)

[Kippax]

So little bait...yet so many fish....:-)

It's posts like that, that make you so wise and cool Dude.

I shall now skulk off with my bag of hard earned loyalty points, may be phoning you in a couple of weeks for a meet.

Kippax.

[blues-clues]

So little bait...yet so many fish....:-)

It's posts like that, that make you so wise and cool Dude.

I shall now skulk off with my bag of hard earned loyalty points, may be phoning you in a couple of weeks for a meet.

Kippax.

Welcome back Kippax!

Of all the posts in all the forums you had to turn up in this one! Talk about unexpected!

Looking forward to more of your City reports!

[john68]

So little bait...yet so many fish....:-)

It's posts like that, that make you so wise and cool Dude.

I shall now skulk off with my bag of hard earned loyalty points, may be phoning you in a couple of weeks for a meet.

Kippax.

Thank you mr Kippax Sir and welcome home. You have been ver much missed.
I await your call.
Hope yer well pal.

[gillie]

This has to be thread of the year.

[BlueinBosnia]

So little bait...yet so many fish....:-)

It's posts like that, that make you so wise and cool Dude.

I shall now skulk off with my bag of hard earned loyalty points, may be phoning you in a couple of weeks for a meet.

Kippax.

Welcome back! Well you be doing a report of your day out, for those of us who will be stuck on a Jeep in the Jordanian desert, quite possibly out of any radio range, as the final is being played? Thanks in advance.