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Re: Sir Roberto Mancini

Postby the_georgian_genius » Tue May 17, 2011 11:36 am

Kladze wrote:
the_georgian_genius wrote:
dazby wrote:
Anyone want any predictions for next season?


Please God no.

I'd say you're a grade A tosser if you did. Thereagain maybe I wouldn't as we've just won the FA cup and all.


I'd say we will win the Premier League and get to the semi's of the Champions League if we hadn't just won the FA Cup me old pal.

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Re: Sir Roberto Mancini

Postby Ted Hughes » Tue May 17, 2011 11:48 am

the_georgian_genius wrote:
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dazby wrote:I'm sure GG has posted Mancini out at some point. Basically he covers all bases.

"Balotelli is good"

"Balotelli is bad"

I was right, I'm a genius.

I'd have a go at you GG and call you a twat but we've just won the FA cup so I'll spare you.


Dazby my good man, i'll ignore all of the above seeing as your one of the few posters on here with common sense, i'll call it a slight relapse but i don't cover all basis, i've always said Mancini would lead us to glory and will never say Balotelli is bad as i would be wrong and i am always right.

Anyone want any predictions for next season?


It's not what you say that gets people's backs up, it's the way you say it & the fact you appear to crow about everything when it suits you but disappear when things go wrong. In fact, you behave like a Utd fan.

Most of us are delighted for Bob but some of us think he's made mistakes which almost fucked it up for him. That's a realistic assessment & I bet he'd agree with it, as he's probably not as far up his arse as you are.


Listen Ted, i took so much stick on here this season for simply having the opposite opinion to the majority, the reason i say it in the way i say it is because you have to on the internet to get your point across when you aren't friends with posters in the real world, it is very easy to type out "mancini is shit" or "mancini is clueless" and whenever anyone comes back and says "hang on a minute, he isn't shit" you get back "fuck off you clueless twat"

So i don't apologise to come on here at the end of the season when everything i said to get called a clueless twat has infact turned out to be correct.


You haven't had the opposite opinion to the majority though. You've been happy to back Mancini through everything even when he's fucked up, fine, well done, we won the cup, but the majority of people haven't been saying 'sack him' they've been saying 'what the fuck did he do that for?' etc when he's fucked up. You chose to act as if everythime he got stuff wrong, it hadn't really happened & was all part of a scheme. It's not, it's the scheme going wrong. What he's done is got through it & largely fixed it.

If you asked him would he start Boateng & Boyatya together v Arsenal if he had his time again, he'd say no. These things are mistakes which bring reasonable doubts which Bob has learned from. Had he failed to learn, he'd be gone. Now he has to continue to adapt & improve to go go to the next level. It's not cut & dried that he will make it but he's shown the capability to adapt so there's a good chance he will & he's now earnewd the right to have a go at it.
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Re: Sir Roberto Mancini

Postby the_georgian_genius » Tue May 17, 2011 12:19 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:
the_georgian_genius wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
the_georgian_genius wrote:
dazby wrote:I'm sure GG has posted Mancini out at some point. Basically he covers all bases.

"Balotelli is good"

"Balotelli is bad"

I was right, I'm a genius.

I'd have a go at you GG and call you a twat but we've just won the FA cup so I'll spare you.


Dazby my good man, i'll ignore all of the above seeing as your one of the few posters on here with common sense, i'll call it a slight relapse but i don't cover all basis, i've always said Mancini would lead us to glory and will never say Balotelli is bad as i would be wrong and i am always right.

Anyone want any predictions for next season?


It's not what you say that gets people's backs up, it's the way you say it & the fact you appear to crow about everything when it suits you but disappear when things go wrong. In fact, you behave like a Utd fan.

Most of us are delighted for Bob but some of us think he's made mistakes which almost fucked it up for him. That's a realistic assessment & I bet he'd agree with it, as he's probably not as far up his arse as you are.


Listen Ted, i took so much stick on here this season for simply having the opposite opinion to the majority, the reason i say it in the way i say it is because you have to on the internet to get your point across when you aren't friends with posters in the real world, it is very easy to type out "mancini is shit" or "mancini is clueless" and whenever anyone comes back and says "hang on a minute, he isn't shit" you get back "fuck off you clueless twat"

So i don't apologise to come on here at the end of the season when everything i said to get called a clueless twat has infact turned out to be correct.


You haven't had the opposite opinion to the majority though. You've been happy to back Mancini through everything even when he's fucked up, fine, well done, we won the cup, but the majority of people haven't been saying 'sack him' they've been saying 'what the fuck did he do that for?' etc when he's fucked up. You chose to act as if everythime he got stuff wrong, it hadn't really happened & was all part of a scheme. It's not, it's the scheme going wrong. What he's done is got through it & largely fixed it.

If you asked him would he start Boateng & Boyatya together v Arsenal if he had his time again, he'd say no. These things are mistakes which bring reasonable doubts which Bob has learned from. Had he failed to learn, he'd be gone. Now he has to continue to adapt & improve to go go to the next level. It's not cut & dried that he will make it but he's shown the capability to adapt so there's a good chance he will & he's now earnewd the right to have a go at it.


I think you will find there have been plenty of times where i have said IMO he got it wrong, just not nearly as much as everyone on here has.

Going back to the Arsenal home game, i would play Boateng everytime over Wayne Bridge as for Boyata, after his performance against Chelsea and Lescott's form at that time i thought it was a good decision but then hindsight is a wonderful thing isn't it especially after 5 mins and 7 months down the line.
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Re: Sir Roberto Mancini

Postby BobKowalski » Tue May 17, 2011 12:26 pm

Majority want him sacked? Probably not although I doubt if many tears would have been shed if he had been. I would say the majority - or to be accurate a large body of opinion - has been unconvinced by Mancini. Partly through the circumstances of his appointment, the shambles of his opening presser with Henry Winter and co leading the charge with shouts of 'Do you know who Rory Delap is?" - well if he didn't he fucking does now Henry and Delap is the one having regrets not Mancini.

And then there are the tactics like playing AJ on the wrong side, buying Paddy and basically his insistence on doing things his way despite the incessant moaning from the media and a lot of fans that it wasn't 'exciting enough'. Which it wasn't a lot of the time but then we had done 'exciting' already and someone had to teach this group of players and the club what it takes to build something that is sustainable and be able to not only challenge for major honours but actually win something.

In short someone had to shovel a lot of shit before we could start to reap some rewards and it seems Mancini with his relentless intensity was quite happy to do so. Its still a work in progress - it will always be a work in progress if we want to win honours on a consistent basis but if the past 7 glorious days are anything to go by it will be worth it.

Cheers Roberto.
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Re: Sir Roberto Mancini

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Tue May 17, 2011 12:47 pm

BobKowalski wrote:Majority want him sacked? Probably not although I doubt if many tears would have been shed if he had been. I would say the majority - or to be accurate a large body of opinion - has been unconvinced by Mancini. Partly through the circumstances of his appointment, the shambles of his opening presser with Henry Winter and co leading the charge with shouts of 'Do you know who Rory Delap is?" - well if he didn't he fucking does now Henry and Delap is the one having regrets not Mancini.

And then there are the tactics like playing AJ on the wrong side, buying Paddy and basically his insistence on doing things his way despite the incessant moaning from the media and a lot of fans that it wasn't 'exciting enough'. Which it wasn't a lot of the time but then we had done 'exciting' already and someone had to teach this group of players and the club what it takes to build something that is sustainable and be able to not only challenge for major honours but actually win something.

In short someone had to shovel a lot of shit before we could start to reap some rewards and it seems Mancini with his relentless intensity was quite happy to do so. Its still a work in progress - it will always be a work in progress if we want to win honours on a consistent basis but if the past 7 glorious days are anything to go by it will be worth it.

Cheers Roberto.


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Re: Sir Roberto Mancini

Postby Lee_R » Tue May 17, 2011 12:54 pm

lol from my rag mate about 20 minutes ago...

'Two supposed senior managers here have been out to fucking bug Mancini cos the poor cunt was having a brew in caffe nero earlier
birds too, sad bitches. Why not just leave him be.'.
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Re: Sir Roberto Mancini

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Tue May 17, 2011 1:07 pm

Coffee in Café Nero is fucking embarrasing. They got some mean sandwiches though.
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Re: Sir Roberto Mancini

Postby DoomMerchant » Tue May 17, 2011 1:21 pm

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Coffee in Café Nero is fucking embarrasing. They got some mean sandwiches though.


he's Italian. He knows that no matter where he goes in all of England you can't make a cup of coffee to save your lives, so he might as well sit down at the corner shop and have a coffee and grin and bear it until he can get on hols back home. FACT.

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Re: Sir Roberto Mancini

Postby Ted Hughes » Tue May 17, 2011 1:37 pm

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Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Coffee in Café Nero is fucking embarrasing. They got some mean sandwiches though.


he's Italian. He knows that no matter where he goes in all of England you can't make a cup of coffee to save your lives, so he might as well sit down at the corner shop and have a coffee and grin and bear it until he can get on hols back home. FACT.

cheers


True, we haven't mastered the art of getting 1000 calories into a cup of coffee yet.
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Re: Sir Roberto Mancini

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Tue May 17, 2011 1:40 pm

DoomMerchant wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Coffee in Café Nero is fucking embarrasing. They got some mean sandwiches though.


he's Italian. He knows that no matter where he goes in all of England you can't make a cup of coffee to save your lives, so he might as well sit down at the corner shop and have a coffee and grin and bear it until he can get on hols back home. FACT.

cheers


Unfortunately very very true. As many times as I've been to England and as much as I genuinely love the country, for coffeeholic like myself it's torture. I've never ever had decent cup in England. On the other hand tee is brilliant. But I can't get going without nice brewed cup of coffee in the morning. Simply can't.
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Re: Sir Roberto Mancini

Postby Original Dub » Tue May 17, 2011 5:43 pm

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Original Dub wrote:You take grief on this forum because you're a fucking idiot most of the time. You're so far up your own arse its unbearable for most folk.

You're trying to rub it in our faces that the club met its targets?

What a strange way of getting satisfaction.

Its a pity you're a city fan... you'd make a great rag IMO.


I'm only so far up my own arse because i am always right as proved time and time again.

Hey mate, FA CUP WINNERS 2011, champions league, champions league we are coming, good times ahead for me and you!


Its gonna take more than you posting tripe like this and trying to wind other blues up in the process (I don't know why you're GLOATING to me and others about CITY WINNING??? WEIRD!) to convince me that at times this season I wasn't pulling my hair out and feeling for the first time in years that I wanted to switch off the TV because the team I love were being suffocated beyond almost anything I'd witnessed in the premier league for years.

An FA Cup and Champions League qualification has lifted me so high, its almost euphoric. I thank Maninci for his part in that, I thank the players for their part in that and lets not forget that guy that's plowed the guts of £1b for his part in it...

But the first signs of a consistant defensive nature next season and you bet your fucking bottom dollar I'll be giving Mancini shit, because its not the players who want to play like that and it sure as shit isn't the wish of the guy who plowed the guts of £1b in to the club.

Trying to tell me I was wrong because of how I feel in any given moment is as weird as gloating at me because my team won.

Can I just suggest you celebrate in your own way and either join in with the rest of us and the numerous "happy" threads there are or else just shut the fuck up.

CTID, FA CUP WINNERS, CHAMPIONS LEAGUE QUALIFICATION, DEFENSIVE MINDED MANAGER, HOPE THAT CHANGES NEXT SEASON HOOOOOOOOOOOOOORAH!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Sir Roberto Mancini

Postby Kladze » Tue May 17, 2011 6:10 pm

Original Dub wrote:
the_georgian_genius wrote:
Original Dub wrote:You take grief on this forum because you're a fucking idiot most of the time. You're so far up your own arse its unbearable for most folk.

You're trying to rub it in our faces that the club met its targets?

What a strange way of getting satisfaction.

Its a pity you're a city fan... you'd make a great rag IMO.


I'm only so far up my own arse because i am always right as proved time and time again.

Hey mate, FA CUP WINNERS 2011, champions league, champions league we are coming, good times ahead for me and you!


Its gonna take more than you posting tripe like this and trying to wind other blues up in the process (I don't know why you're GLOATING to me and others about CITY WINNING??? WEIRD!) to convince me that at times this season I wasn't pulling my hair out and feeling for the first time in years that I wanted to switch off the TV because the team I love were being suffocated beyond almost anything I'd witnessed in the premier league for years.

An FA Cup and Champions League qualification has lifted me so high, its almost euphoric. I thank Maninci for his part in that, I thank the players for their part in that and lets not forget that guy that's plowed the guts of £1b for his part in it...

But the first signs of a consistant defensive nature next season and you bet your fucking bottom dollar I'll be giving Mancini shit, because its not the players who want to play like that and it sure as shit isn't the wish of the guy who plowed the guts of £1b in to the club.

Trying to tell me I was wrong because of how I feel in any given moment is as weird as gloating at me because my team won.

Can I just suggest you celebrate in your own way and either join in with the rest of us and the numerous "happy" threads there are or else just shut the fuck up.

[highlight]CTID, FA CUP WINNERS, CHAMPIONS LEAGUE QUALIFICATION, DEFENSIVE MINDED MANAGER, HOPE THAT CHANGES NEXT SEASON HOOOOOOOOOOOOOORAH!!!!!!!!!!![/highlight]


Sounds like the basis of a group I could join.
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Re: Sir Roberto Mancini

Postby Arjan Van Schotte » Tue May 17, 2011 6:19 pm

cafe nero is alright actually - good choice bob.
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Re: Sir Roberto Mancini

Postby CitizenYank » Wed May 18, 2011 12:24 am

I think Roberto is about as close to 'program builder' as most European Managers get. Like a stone mason, give him the ability to choose his rocks and pneumatic materials, and he will chisel you out a perfect monumental.
I can't see any other major 'Genius Managers,' minus Mourinho, Ancelloti or Hiddink, as able to sell a game this slow and deliberate for as long a time. The players respect him as a player and this allows him the ability to communicate simple and complex ideas. He has won everywhere he has coached and brought stability there.
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