Blue glasses off - are we better than the rags?

[Alioune DVToure]

Oh and by the by, in my humblest I don't believe Mancini ever sent his team out to play for a draw, he sent them out to play with a cautious approach and hit on the counter when possible. We were just fucking shit on the counter in the majority of them games people are complaining about.

The 1-0 win against Chelsea this season was played the same way, the only difference being one of our counter attacks resulted in a goal.

For a bit of balance and to try to ensure I'm not accused of being a Mancini licker I would say my biggest criticism of Mancini over the course of the season is not recognising when games were slipping away from us and not making the necessary changes quick enough to address this.

you are showing a knowledge of terminology beyond your post count [highlight]FIBD[/highlight]

Nineteen posts in and he's already got acronym status!

[Wonderwall]

Well people ask why we are not as good as United and if we wan to overtake them we have to ensure we never play for draws. Always to win.

Look at the teams who've beaten United this season. Liverpool, Wolves and Us beat them because we took the game to them, we attack them and got at them. And I've always said United crumble fast when the other team takes the game to them. The way to beat United is to attack them which Is why I was so disappointed when we played for a draw. They crack under pressure- every time.

Teams are scared of playing United and I heard a cliche which is remarkably true: United have already won most games at Old Trafford before the first whistle is blown. Teams are scared of United, even with their weakest team in years they won the title by a mile. They have a psychological effect on teams which no other team has.

Look at how many late goals they get, could you imagine us coming from 2 goals down to win?

We have the players to and I believe the manager to overtake them, it's all about the mentality and self belief.

The blackpool game at bloomfield road sums it up, holloway battered them for an hour and went 2-0 up, then the rags removed rooney for hernandez and Holloway cvhanged his system asnd went defensive and completely screwed up.

[Alioune DVToure]

Well people ask why we are not as good as United and if we wan to overtake them we have to ensure we never play for draws. Always to win.

Look at the teams who've beaten United this season. Liverpool, Wolves and Us beat them because we took the game to them, we attack them and got at them. And I've always said United crumble fast when the other team takes the game to them. The way to beat United is to attack them which Is why I was so disappointed when we played for a draw. They crack under pressure- every time.

Teams are scared of playing United and I heard a cliche which is remarkably true: United have already won most games at Old Trafford before the first whistle is blown. Teams are scared of United, even with their weakest team in years they won the title by a mile. They have a psychological effect on teams which no other team has.

Look at how many late goals they get, could you imagine us coming from 2 goals down to win?

We have the players to and I believe the manager to overtake them, it's all about the [highlight]mentality[/highlight] and self belief.

And there it is again.

No offence, mate, but how many times are you going to make this exact same point in slightly different terms? You moan about not being 'allowed an opinion', but it seems like you're trying to batter everyone into submission by making the same fucking statement time and time again until we tell you that you're right.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

Oh and by the by, in my humblest I don't believe Mancini ever sent his team out to play for a draw, he sent them out to play with a cautious approach and hit on the counter when possible. We were just fucking shit on the counter in the majority of them games people are complaining about.

The 1-0 win against Chelsea this season was played the same way, the only difference being one of our counter attacks resulted in a goal.

For a bit of balance and to try to ensure I'm not accused of being a Mancini licker I would say my biggest criticism of Mancini over the course of the season is not recognising when games were slipping away from us and not making the necessary changes quick enough to address this.

you are showing a knowledge of terminology beyond your post count [highlight]FIBD[/highlight]

Nineteen posts in and he's already got acronym status!

Or 18k posts and Wonderwall can't still be arsed to write whole usernames..... depends which way you look at it!

[Wonderwall]

Oh and by the by, in my humblest I don't believe Mancini ever sent his team out to play for a draw, he sent them out to play with a cautious approach and hit on the counter when possible. We were just fucking shit on the counter in the majority of them games people are complaining about.

The 1-0 win against Chelsea this season was played the same way, the only difference being one of our counter attacks resulted in a goal.

For a bit of balance and to try to ensure I'm not accused of being a Mancini licker I would say my biggest criticism of Mancini over the course of the season is not recognising when games were slipping away from us and not making the necessary changes quick enough to address this.

you are showing a knowledge of terminology beyond your post count [highlight]FIBD[/highlight]

Nineteen posts in and he's already got acronym status!

Or 18k posts and Wonderwall can't still be arsed to write whole usernames..... depends which way you look at it!

spot on NQDP :-p

[saulman]

Well people ask why we are not as good as United and if we wan to overtake them we have to ensure we never play for draws. Always to win.

Look at the teams who've beaten United this season. Liverpool, Wolves and Us beat them because we took the game to them, we attack them and got at them. And I've always said United crumble fast when the other team takes the game to them. The way to beat United is to attack them which Is why I was so disappointed when we played for a draw. They crack under pressure- every time.

Teams are scared of playing United and I heard a cliche which is remarkably true: United have already won most games at Old Trafford before the first whistle is blown. Teams are scared of United, even with their weakest team in years they won the title by a mile. They have a psychological effect on teams which no other team has.

Look at how many late goals they get, could you imagine us coming from 2 goals down to win?

We have the players to and I believe the manager to overtake them, it's all about the mentality and self belief.

The blackpool game at bloomfield road sums it up, holloway battered them for an hour and went 2-0 up, then the rags removed rooney for hernandez and Holloway cvhanged his system asnd went defensive and completely screwed up.

There was also the fact that the ref failed to award an absolute stonewall penalty to Blackpool early in the second half. 3-0 down is a massive mountain to climb. At 2-0 down, they were always in it.

[ronk]

I'm shocked that you'd have been even been dreaming about winning League or even being in CL! There was period about ten to fifteen years ago when my big dream was to see us as a solid Premierleague midtable club. Maybe someday lifting some fluke Cup title.

What owners want and what manager wants are completely different thing. I'm shocked to see so many long time Blues talking about FA Cup win like rags really. Almost as if we were entitled to it and it was minimum requirement anyway. Personally I'd suggest people take time out to think what we have really done. Maybe it's just that it hasn't properly sank yet that WE ARE FA CUP WINNERS 2011! At least that's what I want to think.

5 years ago.

I remember 5 years ago that we were hoping that Pearce could hold the team together enough to establish ourselves as a stable midtable team so we could build a promising team around our academy. The goal was to avoid relegation as early as possible and maybe sneak a run in the Cup or into UEFA Cup places.