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Re: West Ham To Appoint Big Sam

Postby bluechester » Tue May 31, 2011 9:38 pm

apart from demba ba, noble, possible parker(run 10 yards with a ball pass it sidewards or backwards) who else is any goog there, reckon WHU might be down for a while, big fat sam or not, think they are up shit street tbh
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Re: West Ham To Appoint Big Sam

Postby aaron bond » Wed Jun 01, 2011 1:22 am

It's a great appointment for West Ham. As other people in this thread have said, West Ham aren't currently playing good football, and haven't done for a long time. Allardyce will get them promoted and established back in the Prem, and then perhaps they can think about starting to play this 'good football' they're apparently use to.

Pretty much every player in that squad is useless, plus they have some on very high wages. With that being the case, I think Allardyce is the right man to get them back up. He'll get rid of the poor players, bring in the right players to lead them up and establish a well-organised team. He was unfairly dismissed at both Newcastle and Blackburn so hopefully he'll get a chance here for a couple of years at least (although not sure if their owners live in the real world or not!).
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Re: West Ham To Appoint Big Sam

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Wed Jun 01, 2011 6:09 am

DoomMerchant wrote:i really think they should have made a run at the Tafia...Sparky could make that a top 10 Prem team within 3 seasons with better than average but not extravagant spending. i believe that.

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Why would he leave Fulham though? He is in PERFECT place for him right now. He gets to call all the stuff and basically run the club. Their supporters will be happy as long as they stay up and will be ecstatic with top 10 finish. Al-Fayed will give him some money to play with and do his bargain hunting.

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West Ham are relegated club. Also they are bigger club with much more demanding supporters.
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Re: West Ham To Appoint Big Sam

Postby Beefymcfc » Wed Jun 01, 2011 7:28 am

Listening to the Moose this morning and he says that BFS will be on 1.2 mil per year with a 1 mil promotion bonus. Not bad if you can get the work, eh?

Also, they were saying that Mark Hughes is on a 12 month rolling contract but has a get-out clause for this month only. I can't see him even contemplating the West Ham job but I can see him looking at others such as Villa.
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Re: West Ham To Appoint Big Sam

Postby walmai » Wed Jun 01, 2011 7:52 am

Hughes is way to canny to take a job offered by the meddling Goblins. He had a chance to take over about 12 months ago and, understandably in my view, decided against it.

2 other points.

It is correct to suggest that, in recent seasons, West Ham have been rubbish. They were less a sum of their parts, precisely because of our having utilised rookie or poor coaches (Zola was also totally undermined by firstly financial disaster and then by The Back Page Goblins). However, we have the spine of a team that ought to do reasonably well in the 2nd tier, even once the journeymen and underachievers have gone elsewhere.

However, I don't know whether its such a foregone conclusion that Taggart's pet BFS will gel with the team straight away. Yes, I appreciate he's more of a disciplined coach than Grant, but I suspect that he's happy to coach teams to (a) play the long-ball/knock-down route to scrappy goal chances (b) simulate fouls for percentage football and (c) block off the goalkeeper at corners.

In short, he's capable of being effective and of getting us back to the Premier League. I doubt that he'll do that in a season, but its not impossible. Its unlikely to be too easy on the eye.

Glad I retired the old ST, basically.
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Re: West Ham To Appoint Big Sam

Postby Ted Hughes » Wed Jun 01, 2011 8:09 am

Sam is claiming he wants to play passing football at home, so we'll see if he's true to his word. He didn't always play purely horrendous longball, thuggy, shit; his earlier Bolton team was ok to watch.
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Re: West Ham To Appoint Big Sam

Postby Beefymcfc » Wed Jun 01, 2011 8:23 am

walmai wrote:Hughes is way to canny to take a job offered by the meddling Goblins. He had a chance to take over about 12 months ago and, understandably in my view, decided against it.

2 other points.

It is correct to suggest that, in recent seasons, West Ham have been rubbish. They were less a sum of their parts, precisely because of our having utilised rookie or poor coaches (Zola was also totally undermined by firstly financial disaster and then by The Back Page Goblins). However, we have the spine of a team that ought to do reasonably well in the 2nd tier, even once the journeymen and underachievers have gone elsewhere.

However, I don't know whether its such a foregone conclusion that Taggart's pet BFS will gel with the team straight away. Yes, I appreciate he's more of a disciplined coach than Grant, but I suspect that he's happy to coach teams to (a) play the long-ball/knock-down route to scrappy goal chances (b) simulate fouls for percentage football and (c) block off the goalkeeper at corners.

In short, he's capable of being effective and of getting us back to the Premier League. I doubt that he'll do that in a season, but its not impossible. Its unlikely to be too easy on the eye.

Glad I retired the old ST, basically.

I suppose it's a 'Wait and See' scenario for you mate but I honestly think that if you keep the majority of the decent players then BFS will play to your strengths. At Bolton he played some decent football when he had the players, same could have been said at Newcastle, although the scores didn't go well for them. At Blackburn he inherited a team that was ripe for the long-ball but he still played a lot of ball on the ground from what I remember (he did against us anyway). I suppose it's 'Horses for Courses' mate and I honestly don't think you could've got much better.

With regard to the Fuckwittery upstairs, what were your thoughts on some of the suggestions that the meddling Goblins actually wanted to go down in order to sort the wage bill out and getting rid of that 100 million debt?
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Re: West Ham To Appoint Big Sam

Postby Alioune DVToure » Wed Jun 01, 2011 8:52 am

walmai wrote:[highlight]Hughes is way to canny to take a job offered by the meddling Goblins. He had a chance to take over about 12 months ago and, understandably in my view, decided against it.[/highlight]

2 other points.

It is correct to suggest that, in recent seasons, West Ham have been rubbish. They were less a sum of their parts, precisely because of our having utilised rookie or poor coaches (Zola was also totally undermined by firstly financial disaster and then by The Back Page Goblins). However, we have the spine of a team that ought to do reasonably well in the 2nd tier, even once the journeymen and underachievers have gone elsewhere.

However, I don't know whether its such a foregone conclusion that Taggart's pet BFS will gel with the team straight away. Yes, I appreciate he's more of a disciplined coach than Grant, but I suspect that he's happy to coach teams to (a) play the long-ball/knock-down route to scrappy goal chances (b) simulate fouls for percentage football and (c) block off the goalkeeper at corners.

In short, he's capable of being effective and of getting us back to the Premier League. I doubt that he'll do that in a season, but its not impossible. Its unlikely to be too easy on the eye.

Glad I retired the old ST, basically.


This is exactly why I'm amazed you've managed to land a manager with pedigree. Those wankers will hang anyone out to dry to paper over the cracks of their own mis-management of the club. It's also weird that Fat Sam would take the job on after the Venky and Mike Ashley fiascos. You think he'd want a cushier by number now.

I'm convinced he'll do a good job and pretty much from the off. A cunt, yes, but a proper manager who knows how to work with what he's got and win football matches.
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Re: West Ham To Appoint Big Sam

Postby Ted Hughes » Wed Jun 01, 2011 9:00 am

Alioune DVToure wrote:
walmai wrote:[highlight]Hughes is way to canny to take a job offered by the meddling Goblins. He had a chance to take over about 12 months ago and, understandably in my view, decided against it.[/highlight]

2 other points.

It is correct to suggest that, in recent seasons, West Ham have been rubbish. They were less a sum of their parts, precisely because of our having utilised rookie or poor coaches (Zola was also totally undermined by firstly financial disaster and then by The Back Page Goblins). However, we have the spine of a team that ought to do reasonably well in the 2nd tier, even once the journeymen and underachievers have gone elsewhere.

However, I don't know whether its such a foregone conclusion that Taggart's pet BFS will gel with the team straight away. Yes, I appreciate he's more of a disciplined coach than Grant, but I suspect that he's happy to coach teams to (a) play the long-ball/knock-down route to scrappy goal chances (b) simulate fouls for percentage football and (c) block off the goalkeeper at corners.

In short, he's capable of being effective and of getting us back to the Premier League. I doubt that he'll do that in a season, but its not impossible. Its unlikely to be too easy on the eye.

Glad I retired the old ST, basically.


This is exactly why I'm amazed you've managed to land a manager with pedigree. Those wankers will hang anyone out to dry to paper over the cracks of their own mis-management of the club. It's also weird that Fat Sam would take the job on after the Venky and Mike Ashley fiascos. You think he'd want a cushier by number now.

I'm convinced he'll do a good job and pretty much from the off. A cunt, yes, but a proper manager who knows how to work with what he's got and win football matches.


Imo West Ham are the best club Fat Sam could dream of managing at this stage of his career. Nobody wants him because of his disgraceful football. The only job offers he would get would be from Championship clubs desperate to stay up & WBA even went for Roy. He has to rebuild his reputation before another club of West Ham's stature would touch him. Luckily for him, they're desperate.
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