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Postby Chinners » Mon Aug 22, 2011 6:50 am

Emmanuel Adebayor to join Tottenham on loan from Manchester City when pay deal is finalised
Emmanuel Adebayor will be welcomed in the Tottenham Hotspur dressing room because he could lift the team back into the top four, according to Benoit Assou-Ekotto. Spurs are negotiating with Manchester City about a loan signing for the striker.
“I played against him when I was young [in France] so I know him well,’’ the Tottenham Hotspur left-back said. “He is a little bit like Peter Crouch but with more mobility. He will find a good complicity with Defoe because Jermain is used to playing with that style of player. We saw what he did against us in Madrid [on loan at Real] last season, so I am sure he will help us.
“If the manager signs him it’s not to finish fifth or sixth. He’s a player from one of the big four and if we get a player from one of those clubs, it’s for Tottenham to finish in the big four. We know his reputation but we don’t care about that if he scores many goals.”
Spurs manager Harry Redknapp described Adebayor as a “good loan signing”. Manchester City and Spurs are still negotiating over how much City will pay of Adebayor’s wages during the year-long loan. The striker may have to agree a cut in salary before the deal goes through.
“I’m sure they will help massively with the wages anyway,’’ Redknapp added. “If he comes and he’s ready to play, and he’s at it, he can be a real talent. He can bring people into play, do things. Rafa [van der Vaart] could play with him.’’
Redknapp, who is also hoping to sign Lassana Diarra from Real Madrid, will get a clearer view of where he needs to strengthen when Spurs visit Old Trafford tonight.

Mancini aware of Nasri issue
City boss hopes Arsenal midfielder doesn't play in Champions League
Roberto Mancini admits it would be a 'big problem' if Samir Nasri played for Arsenal in their UEFA Champions League qualifier against Udinese.
Manchester City are hoping to sign Nasri in the coming days, but Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger claimed at the weekend that a deal was 'far, far, far' from being done.
Nasri made his first appearance of the season in Saturday's 2-0 defeat by Liverpool and is in contention to feature in Wednesday's European second leg against Udinese.
If the France international plays in Italy, it would mean he would not be eligible to play for City in the group phase and Mancini acknowledged this could be an issue.
"For 40 days I've hoped in two days, three days (it would be done), I don't know why we haven't closed it," said the City boss.
"It's a big problem (if he plays for Arsenal against Udinese) but I'm sure we can close in 24 hours, maybe 48. For Nasri it will be important he can play in all the Champions League matches."
Meanwhile, Mancini reiterated his belief that Carlos Tevez will not leave City before the transfer window closes after the Argentine made his first outing of the season as a substitute in Sunday's 3-2 win at Bolton Wanderers.
He added: "Carlos is here, I don't think the situation will change. Carlos is an important player, a top player for us and at the moment we haven't received any offers for him."
The City boss, meanwhile, dismissed the possibility of fringe players like Emmanuel Adebayor and Craig Bellamy leaving on free transfers to get them off the wage bill.
He added: "All of these players have a cost because they are good players. If there are teams that want to buy them they need to pay, like us.
"I don't understand why we pay a lot of money and other teams don't."

Uwe Rösler: 'Cancer did not change me. I still have the same hunger for my profession'
The Brian Viner Interview: former City striker, who grew up in East Germany, has overcome lymphoma and made a bright start as manager of Brentford – but has ambitions to return to Manchester
Uwe Rösler urges on his Brentford players during Saturday's hammering of Leyton Orient. He recalls his playing days at Manchester City with the greatest affection
Growing up behind the Berlin Wall, being separated from his parents at the age of 11, fighting non-Hodgkin's lymphoma and being told by doctors that without emergency surgery he might not survive the week, putting Manchester City ahead with a wonderful goal in the fifth round of the FA Cup at Old Trafford... Uwe Rösler's 42 years have certainly not been lacking in experiences of all kinds, and if it seems fanciful to bracket his famous strike for City with the tumour that nearly killed him as an example of life's ups and downs, to Rösler himself it makes sense. Cancer did not make football seem less important.
"Football is still life and death," says Brentford's manager, with the glimmer of a smile.
He is only four league matches into his new career in English football, but already it feels like his spiritual home. Rösler played for 11 clubs in his 16-year career, in Germany, England and Norway, but it was his four years with Manchester City that he recalls with the greatest affection. The feeling is mutual; Rösler, and his 65 goals in 167 appearances, have an enduring place in the heart of all City fans old enough to remember the rollercoaster 1990s. I duly ask whether his dream is to return to City one day as manager. A shrug. "I don't need to mention that. I can't even think that. Everybody knows it, everybody knows my feelings for the club, and that will never change. But I have to prove myself in England first."
He has made a splendid start. Brentford currently sit fourth in League One, with nine points garnered from a possible 12, and in Saturday's London derby hammered Leyton Orient 5-0. If they are that near the top at the end of the season, then Rösler will have comfortably exceeded his first-term objective. "We are aiming for the top 10, in contention for the play-offs," he says. "I don't know if we're good enough to get into the play-offs, but with the players we have it is achievable, if we have a little bit [of] lady luck in terms of injuries."
Rösler has made five signings since his appointment two months ago, and seems happy with the transfer funds afforded him by the club's owner, Matthew Benham, an online betting tycoon and professional gambler, whose punt on the former manager of Norwegian clubs Lillestrom, Viking and Molde appears, so far as one can judge before August is out, to be a shrewd one.
"We certainly can't compete with the big guns," Rösler adds. "Sheffield Wednesday, Sheffield United, Preston, Huddersfield, they are totally out of our range, but compared with the rest we have a solid budget. We don't need to sell. There were 16 players under contract when I took over, with room to bring in more. That's a good scenario."
We are sitting in the bar at Griffin Park, not an especially salubrious room but Rösler looks around approvingly. "Brentford for me is a very good starting point in England," he says. "I have everything I need to succeed. A compliment to the former management, there is a great work ethic here, and a great team spirit."
He is generous with his compliments, in particular singling out his old Manchester adversary Ole Gunnar Solksjaer, who succeeded him at Molde and recommended him to Benham. The Bees' owner is one of the driving forces behind the creation of a European Champions League at under-19s level, with Molde as the Norwegian representatives. That's what brought Benham and Solksjaer together, and knowing Benham was looking for a new manager, the former baby-faced assassin advised him to set his sights on Rösler.
"I was already on his radar, but Ole Gunnar told him what I had done in Norway, what I am as a person. I think without Ole Gunnar I wouldn't sit here today."
By the time Benham invited him for interview, Rösler had already moved, with his Norwegian wife and their two sons, back to the North-west of England. "We came back to Bramhall last November," he says. "The kids were 11 and 13, coming to important years at school, and we had never lost contact with our friends in Manchester. City helped me to relocate, and helped me to get the kids into school. They helped me only because I was a former player, but later they asked me, 'Uwe, do you want to do something with us, maybe work as an attacking coach?' I thought I could combine that with my TV work in Norway, so I went to work in the City academy and I picked up a lot of good things there. I also watched a lot of League One and League Two football, and I applied for several jobs, mainly in the North-west. I was once or twice on the shortlist. Then came a call from my agent, saying that Brentford were interested in me."
He has signed a two-year contract, and has moved into a flat in west London, but the family have stayed behind in Greater Manchester. "The kids are settled there, the youngest plays in the City academy, so I am going home only after games to the North-west."
It is not an ideal arrangement for a man who resolved after his cancer treatment to spend more time with his children. On the other hand, it is their well-being that has become his priority, not his own. In 2003, while playing for Lillestrom, he suffered breathing problems. "I'd had a fantastic pre-season, I'd scored nine goals in 10 games, and felt better than I had for a long time. But when I was eating I felt like there was always food stuck, and then, even though I was very fit, I found I couldn't run. Just before Easter I had an X-ray and they found a tumour the size of a tennis ball, pressing against, what is the word, the windpipe. In Norway everything closes down over Easter but they told me they couldn't wait even a week, they had to start treatment immediately. It was very aggressive lymphoma."
It was not the kind of curtain he expected to close his playing career, one round a hospital bed, and later, like most chemotherapy patients, he took stock. "I was determined to find more time for my family, and I now see a few things differently. Before, if a bus was five minutes late, I was annoyed. Now, if it's late, it's late. But the cancer did not change me as a person. I have the same character, the same hunger for my profession."
While in remission he took his coaching badges and 16 successful years as a striker were parlayed into a promising career as a manager. "When I started managing in Norway in 2005," he recalls, "the league there was very strong. Television put a lot of money into the clubs, and there was a special tax rule for foreign players, who were only taxed 15 per cent, so I signed, for example, the Slovenian Robert Koren, who went on to West Bromwich and Hull City. At that time maybe three or four clubs in Norway were Championship-standard, but in the last two years the money has gone out of the league. Now it is mainly Scandinavian players, and mostly the standard is about League One."
Which, if nothing else, equipped him for life with Brentford. But what sort of manager is he? Is he a disciplinarian?
"It is for other people to judge," he replies. "Obviously you need values and rules, and I believe that if you can't take care of yourself off the field, you can't take care of yourself on it, so I like my players to behave responsibly at all times. But I also want to create an environment in which people smile and respect each other, from players to the secretary, the groundsman. I ask for a lot of loyalty. We can't have people here with their own agendas." He smiles. "You know, I was asked the same question in Norway all the time. 'Are you a disciplinarian?' It is because I am from Germany."
He grew up in Altenburg, not far from the Czech border, and aged 11 was deemed a good enough young footballer to board at one of East Germany's government-sponsored elite sports schools, in Leipzig. "I only saw my parents at the weekend but I was proud to do that, because nobody in my district had achieved it before. The East German philosophy was that, although we could not compete economically with capitalism, we could show through sport that our system was the best. So they had the best possible scouting, and very modern coaching methods. In 1981 they measured the distance between my fingers to make a prediction of how tall I would be. These days, that is thought to be modern."
Of course, East Germany's pursuit of sporting excellence was fuelled by more than desire, but Rösler is adamant that he never encountered doping of any kind. "I don't think you can come too far with doping in football," he says, "because you need technique, vision and awareness as well as physical attributes. No, I am thankful to the government at that time. Without the education I had I would not have come so far. But I am not talking about the whole system. I was happy to see the Wall come down, and for me it happened at the best time. I had my whole career in front of me, and so many possibilities. Going to the Bundesliga, to England, meeting my wife. But other players, great players, who were by then 30, 32, they never had an opportunity to make a good living out of football."
Rösler had been capped five times by East Germany, but, in an era replete with top strikers, led by Jürgen Klinsmann and Oliver Bierhoff, never got to play for the unified German team. Yet it is no more a regret to him than reaching the peak of his career a decade or so before wages hit the stratosphere, not least at his beloved Manchester City. "I enjoyed my time, I was privileged to have such a career, and I earnt very good money compared to a lorry driver," he says. When I impertinently ask whether he made enough out of football not to have to work, he sidesteps the question. "I would not feel complete just playing golf. I have always been ambitious."
And England has always featured in those ambitions. At the sports school in Leipzig, Rösler had listened raptly to tapes of English football crowds singing their songs, so when the offer came from Manchester City it was a chance to embrace a culture that had long fascinated him. He duly became Francis Lee's first signing as chairman, during Brian Horton's tenure as manager, and he wasn't disappointed. "I settled in fast. The team at that time – Beagrie, Summerbee, Flitcroft – played attractive attacking football and it was a joy to be part of that. No German player had played for decades in England, Klinsmann came the year after me, but of course City had had Trautmann, and that made it easier for me. And when I scored that goal at Old Trafford, chipping Schmeichel after Georgi [Kinkladze] played me through, it was the best atmosphere I had ever experienced... even though we eventually lost."
He doesn't mind admitting that he was close to tears when City won last season's FA Cup. "To see [long-serving secretary] Bernard Halford lifting the Cup, that was a fantastic gesture and it made me very emotional."
He is still, he adds, in regular touch with his old boss, Horton. "He is assistant to Phil Brown at Preston and he invited me there a lot last season, but now it is more difficult, because we are competing against each other." Still, Rosler will soon get his chance to repay the hospitality; Preston visit Griffin Park next month. Another three points that day, and perhaps even an FA Cup tie at Eastlands, will help to make this a season worth remembering for Brentford's new, ambitious manager. Promotion would help even more.

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OTHER BOLLOX
Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger has made bids of £15m and more than £20m respectively for Rennes midfielder Yann M'Vila and Lille forward Eden Hazard. The Frenchman may also return to Everton with a fresh approach for defender Phil Jagielka. Daily Mirror

The Gunners are reportedly offering striker Nicklas Bendtner to Werder Bremen in a swap deal for experienced centre back Per Mertesacker. Caught Offside

Tottenham could renew their efforts to sign Atletico Madrid frontman Diego Forlan as the Uruguayan has grown unsettled at the Vicente Calderon. Fanatix

Spurs have also again been linked with controversial Newcastle midfielder Joey Barton, according to reports. Caught Offside

Out-of-favour Liverpool midfielder Alberto Aquilani has claimed he is close to joining AC Milan. Daily Mirror

Chelsea will make a move for Fiorentina attacker Stevan Jovetic as soon as their deal to sign Juan Mata from Valencia has been finalised. Fanatix

Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson has confirmed that Paris Saint-German attempted to sign Dimitar Berbatov, but that he wants to keep the striker at Old Trafford. Inside Futbol

Ferguson is reportedly monitoring Japanese international Shinji Kagawa, the 22-year-old midfielder currently with Borussia Dortmund. Caught Offside

Blackburn are on the verge of signing striker Vedad Ibisevic from Hoffenheim for £6m. Daily Mirror

Arsenal are set to open talks with Lazio striker Mauro Zarate and hope to have the Argentine in the squad in time for the weekend's match against Manchester United. Footy Bunker

Liverpool are tempted by a possible swap deal that would send midfielder Raul Meireles to Chelsea in exchange for striker Daniel Sturridge. Caught Offside

The Reds are also considering a move for Wolves striker Kevin Doyle before the transfer window closes at the end of the month. Daily Star

England coach Fabio Capello has added his opinion on the unrest at Arsenal by urging manager Arsene Wenger to make some signings. Daily Star
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Postby lets all have a disco » Mon Aug 22, 2011 7:23 am

WENGER,Just sell fucking Samir to us and go spend your cash you garlic munching,frogs legs shagging,beret loving onion licking,retreating bell end.

FFS,Your doing my nut in now cant handle the sly winks,sly smiles and general cuntishness now.

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Postby Ted Hughes » Mon Aug 22, 2011 7:26 am

Rumour is that it's us who are holding up the Nasri deal by our policy of not paying the agents fees. If that's the cae then you can see why Wenger may play him v Udinese.
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Postby Avalon » Mon Aug 22, 2011 7:37 am

To which I reply with telling Nasri we'd like to buy him, but we don't want to pay this amount of money for a player who's unavailable to us for the group stages of the Champions League and then we tell Arsenal that we will approach Nasri again after next year's season. We might be able to strike a deal with Nasri so that he'll join us next season. Then we can walk up to Wenger and tell him he just missed out on £20m+.

If we're holding out on agent fees, then I agree. I am fully resenting agents. Agents don't work for the player's interest, they work for themselves. Why does a club have to pay money for an agent that is hired by the player we have to sign? I'd tell the player to go fuck himself, even if it meant we'd lose out on good players. Seriously, the player hires an agent and the club that wants to sign that player has to pay a fee for the agent? It makes no sense, none. There's cunts like Joorabchian who probably earn several million for just getting a player signed. I dread to think how much City paid that rat for signing Tevez. Agents should be banned. I appreciate that the idea is for them to set up a good contract for the player, but everything else? They should be banned from talking to the media and they should not be able to manipulate a player into leaving a club, they shouldn't be able to get fees from clubs and they should be find and taken their license away from them if they do anything naughty, such as telling the media the player wants to leave.
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Postby Ted Hughes » Mon Aug 22, 2011 7:51 am

If we don't sign Nasri now, he will sign for the rags next summer.
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Postby Avalon » Mon Aug 22, 2011 8:12 am

Hence trying to make a personal deal with him now and then activate it at the end of his contract.

In the end though, if we miss out on him, that's tough. He's a great player, showing his ability against Liverpool, but I wouldn't be too bothered if we miss out on him. There's plenty of other fish in the sea and I am sure, as a club, we could find another player. I'm still in favour of Paulo Henrique 'Ganso' from Santos. Everybody always talks about Neymar, but I think he's the real talent there. Sure he's Brazilian and doomed to fail in the PL, but he's a player that can really dominate the midfield, just like Silva.
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Postby Chinners » Mon Aug 22, 2011 8:46 am

Avalon wrote:To which I reply with telling Nasri we'd like to buy him, but we don't want to pay this amount of money for a player who's unavailable to us for the group stages of the Champions League and then we tell Arsenal that we will approach Nasri again after next year's season. We might be able to strike a deal with Nasri so that he'll join us next season. Then we can walk up to Wenger and tell him he just missed out on £20m+.

If we're holding out on agent fees, then I agree. I am fully resenting agents. Agents don't work for the player's interest, they work for themselves. Why does a club have to pay money for an agent that is hired by the player we have to sign? I'd tell the player to go fuck himself, even if it meant we'd lose out on good players. Seriously, the player hires an agent and the club that wants to sign that player has to pay a fee for the agent? It makes no sense, none. There's cunts like Joorabchian who probably earn several million for just getting a player signed. I dread to think how much City paid that rat for signing Tevez. Agents should be banned. I appreciate that the idea is for them to set up a good contract for the player, but everything else? They should be banned from talking to the media and they should not be able to manipulate a player into leaving a club, they shouldn't be able to get fees from clubs and they should be find and taken their license away from them if they do anything naughty, such as telling the media the player wants to leave.


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Postby Ted Hughes » Mon Aug 22, 2011 9:01 am

Avalon wrote:Hence trying to make a personal deal with him now and then activate it at the end of his contract.

In the end though, if we miss out on him, that's tough. He's a great player, showing his ability against Liverpool, but I wouldn't be too bothered if we miss out on him. There's plenty of other fish in the sea and I am sure, as a club, we could find another player. I'm still in favour of Paulo Henrique 'Ganso' from Santos. Everybody always talks about Neymar, but I think he's the real talent there. Sure he's Brazilian and doomed to fail in the PL, but he's a player that can really dominate the midfield, just like Silva.


I don't trust Brazilian footballers full stop.

I don't think Nasri is a worldbeater but if we don't sign him I'm not sure if we'll have time to do anything else. I do think Nasri will suit Silva down to the ground though & we could become like a better version of Arsenal but without the whinging, gutless pussiness.

I'm suspicious of this Adebayor business though. It doesn't make sense on it's own. I'm just wondering if we're in with a secret bid for Modric, either instead of or as well as Nasri.
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Postby Mike J » Mon Aug 22, 2011 9:18 am

nice interview with uwe that.
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Re: Monday's B*ll*x

Postby Ted Hughes » Mon Aug 22, 2011 11:35 am

Apparently Modric's head is not in the right place.

Surely he won't pass the medical then, unless he signs for us ?
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Postby carl_feedthegoat » Mon Aug 22, 2011 2:38 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:Apparently Modric's head is not in the right place.

Surely he won't pass the medical then, unless he signs for us ?


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