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Re: Bellers gone

Postby Avalon » Thu Sep 01, 2011 9:42 am

Good luck to the man. I know he worked hard for City and walked the walk on the pitch. He can be a problem, but I still like him, on and off the pitch. Using his wages to fund his own charity takes a massive heart. Good luck!
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Re: Bellers gone

Postby mcfc1632 » Thu Sep 01, 2011 9:43 am

We will have given him a big payoff but we can't subsidise him as it's a permanent transfer.[/quote]

Ah - yes that makes sense - so (I am guessing) that he will have a lesser salary - but the amount he loses will be offset by the pay-off we gave? - just speculation but that would seem to fit - would do the same in his position.
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Re: Bellers gone

Postby avoidconfusion » Thu Sep 01, 2011 9:50 am

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eh, theres a reason that Mancini is having him move on and I would bet that its mostly not because of a personal problem between the two. I think SWP is by far the bigger loss for us. No matter how good you can be, if you have the ability to fuck around with the team spirit then move on. While Tevez and Balo can be dumb, its clear that they get along with and are respected by the rest of the team. Can't really say the same for Craig



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Re: Bellers gone

Postby Dubciteh » Thu Sep 01, 2011 11:10 am

Would we have been better loaning him there for the season so he cant play against us rather than letting him leave on a free? Im sure this was considered in the deal at some stage....
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Re: Bellers gone

Postby sandman » Thu Sep 01, 2011 11:24 am

I wonder if this will be the end of the whinging bastards crying over the fact he isnt in the side, I hope so.
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Re: Bellers gone

Postby ian494 » Thu Sep 01, 2011 12:03 pm

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mcfc1632 wrote:I have generally only good feelings towards Craig - being such a long-standing fan I am used to having to get excited / committed / loyal about those players that either show special skills or special determination and I had craig in the latter bracket.

But in the reality of 2011 I am realising (in a very positive way) that I need to have a different expectation - we are no longer (only these last weeks / months) a team where we are all about 1 or 2 'Roy of the Rovers' types that hold us togther. Mancini has move us way beyond that through a mixture of gradual development and a focussed pre-seaon and transfers. I can now see why it was demanding his targets in - and in early - we would be even better (if poss) with them working together sooner.

Back to Craig - also part of this new experience is having a manager that is 'iron' in his own style. Yes he had pampered Carlos / Balo - and he has been beyond the pale in term of being ruthless with others - I guess it is all down to his personal view to the player's capability of helping him deliver - Craig apparently was quickly assessed as not being worth the bother - in the eyes of the only person that matters.

Imagine the thoughts of those tasked with selling those - unfortuantely referred as deadwood. Mancini has written off any chance of getting a proper fee - but hey his view is simply - not my fucking problem - judge me on my decisions.

And in the end Craig would not get into the squad - let alone 1st team in this new Man City - we just have to look beyond the nostalgia - and move forward.

For me - and I am sure many - I am grateful to have this new regime etc - everyone must know that with Mancini it is 'my way or highway' - other managers get praise for that.

Does not mean disrespect to Craig though - good luck and thanks for some good memories.

BTW - have I missed something - has he really taken a cut - or have we subsidised? (I am on hols so have missed most of the posts)


We will have given him a big payoff but we can't subsidise him as it's a permanent transfer.


Didnt we sign Danny Mills and Robbie Fowler from Leeds and they ended up paying part of their wages for a few years?
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Re: Bellers gone

Postby bigblue » Thu Sep 01, 2011 1:10 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:
Crossie wrote:We are all basing our opinions on watching him play for us over 12 months ago. He did OK at Cardiff, had injuries as usual, started well, but didn't do much later in the season, in a "league" below us, but in reality as a top 4 club, light years away from us.

IF he'd stayed, he would only have made the bench and maybe played cup games. Once his pace goes, he is finished. He served a fantastic purpose during the years of Hughes whimpy dick wank players, some of whom didnt seem to offer any level of passion for the club. Bellers stood out because he did want to be here, and he scored some very important goals.

Its a tough one, but the facts to me seem simple. If he stayed, he would have hardly played, even if he made it up with Mancini. Having him around the club being moody and disruptive would have done no one any good.

Whats strange is that he took a 50% pay cut, despite the poor kids in Sierra Leone..............?


So that's something to slag him for now is it? He's a greedy cunt because he won't take a pay cut.... oh he did...well he's a cunt for spending money on kids in Sierra Leone when he's only on half the wages then..the cunt. Typical of the absolute shite peddled about Craig Bellamy.


I take that as being tounge in cheek, since Craig previously said that he couldn't cut his 90,000/wk wages because of his charity in Sierra Lione.... which takes care of 13 kids. All credit to him for the charity work, but its disingenuous to act like it even takes 5,000/wk to take care of 20 kinds in Sierra Lione
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Re: Bellers gone

Postby Dameerto » Thu Sep 01, 2011 1:34 pm

mcfc1632 wrote:We will have given him a big payoff but we can't subsidise him as it's a permanent transfer."

Ah - yes that makes sense - so (I am guessing) that he will have a lesser salary - but the amount he loses will be offset by the pay-off we gave? - just speculation but that would seem to fit - would do the same in his position.


I wouldn't be at all surprised if there is some agreement for us to pay money to his charity inorder to get him off our wage bill (rather than a loyalty payment to him). Pure speculation by me and based on absolutely nothing.
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Re: Bellers gone

Postby Scoey » Thu Sep 01, 2011 1:57 pm

Slim wrote:Only Onuoha and Bridge left in the doghouse now.

How the fuck no-one came in for Onuoha is beyond me, although if Kia has his claws into Ned I can guess.


I think Ned was probably lined up to replace Cahill at Bolton, can't understand no other interest though. Blackburn paid 6mill for Dann....

As for Bridge, isn't he knocking off one of The Saturday's? Don't think he's bothered with football. Our new Danny Mills?
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Re: Bellers gone

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Thu Sep 01, 2011 2:45 pm

You can bet your bottom dollar that he will score against us.
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Re: Bellers gone

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Thu Sep 01, 2011 3:37 pm

Can't believe the stick some of our fans our giving him. He was a tremendous player for us, scored vital goals and always gave 100%. Good luck to him in the future.
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Re: Bellers gone

Postby sandman » Thu Sep 01, 2011 4:20 pm

carl_feedthegoat wrote:You can bet your bottom dollar that he will score against us.


I'd put my mortgage on it.
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Re: Bellers gone

Postby Tokyo Blue » Thu Sep 01, 2011 4:48 pm

I don't know about what shit went down off the field as I am thousands of miles away - so I'll say nothing about that.

I didn't want Bellamy at City but he changed my mind when he played for us through his hard work and general attitude on the field. So that is appreciated. Thanks for the goals and the effort, Craig, you little gobshite.

I can go back to disliking him again now. ;-)
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Re: Bellers gone

Postby david yearsley » Thu Sep 01, 2011 5:03 pm

sandman wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:You can bet your bottom dollar that he will score against us.


I'd put my mortgage on it.


If I had a mortgage I´d prefer to wager it on him being injured ;)


The whole thing with Bob got off on completely the wrong foot from day one. Think Craig had this idea that it was a given he´d be excused part of training. Had he gone directly to Bob beforehand and explained it Bob might have not thought (wrongly imo) that Bellers was taking liberties. We´ll never know now so we move on
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Re: Bellers gone

Postby 13021J » Thu Sep 01, 2011 8:32 pm

Bridge'srightfoot wrote:Can't believe the stick some of our fans our giving him. He was a tremendous player for us, scored vital goals and always gave 100%. Good luck to him in the future.

I agree with the sentiment, I think he has grown up, could have been a much bigger thorn in Mancini's side. He will do well at Liverpool, hopefully not too well.

And of course he will score against us.
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Re: Bellers gone

Postby Wooders » Thu Sep 01, 2011 9:16 pm

its mancios way or the highway and the results are paying dividends now

think what we achieved with him in the squad - then compare it to what we achieved without him and give your collective heads a wobble
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