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Wingers.

Postby leewonpen » Wed Sep 28, 2011 5:52 pm

Although we have started the season well enough.I get the feeling teams have figured us out.we play everything through the middle.When were attacking teams defend in 2 banks of four.Pretty hard to break down. We need 2 quality wingers in the squad.look at Bayern with Ribery and they had Robben on the bench.I figure if we sell Tevez we will get two wingers and a quality centre half.I don't think toured and lescott will ever be world class. That's what we need to sign. Also away from home in Europe I would of liked the defensive formation we played last season and hit them on the break. I think last night we showed some naivety and it cost us. What do you think ?
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Re: Wingers.

Postby ruralblue » Wed Sep 28, 2011 5:54 pm

I hate whingers too, I mean Tevez can't even take the night off without people moaning! :-p
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Re: Wingers.

Postby Crossie » Wed Sep 28, 2011 6:05 pm

Its width we need. It can be provided by Richards and Clichy.

AJ and Nasri can easily fill in as "wingers" if we wanted to play 4-4-2 for abit.
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Re: Wingers.

Postby Kladze » Wed Sep 28, 2011 6:13 pm

Crossie wrote:Its width we need. It can be provided by Richards and Clichy.

AJ and Nasri can easily fill in as "wingers" if we wanted to play 4-4-2 for abit.


Clichy regularly gets the ball in advanced positions but has an irritating reluctance to actually cross the fucking thing.
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Re: Wingers.

Postby steveo_88 » Wed Sep 28, 2011 6:30 pm

Kladze wrote:
Crossie wrote:Its width we need. It can be provided by Richards and Clichy.

AJ and Nasri can easily fill in as "wingers" if we wanted to play 4-4-2 for abit.


Clichy regularly gets the ball in advanced positions but has an irritating reluctance to actually cross the fucking thing.


I think Clichy crossing is down to orders from above, I noticed it against Everton. Keep possesion and create a clearer chance and it prevents the breakaway if we do lose it from just looping the ball in. I don't totally agree with the decision but would be happier with it if we'd only shoot more from outside the box ala Mario's goal versus Everton.
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Re: Wingers.

Postby Kladze » Wed Sep 28, 2011 6:34 pm

steveo_88 wrote:
Kladze wrote:
Crossie wrote:Its width we need. It can be provided by Richards and Clichy.

AJ and Nasri can easily fill in as "wingers" if we wanted to play 4-4-2 for abit.


Clichy regularly gets the ball in advanced positions but has an irritating reluctance to actually cross the fucking thing.


I think Clichy crossing is down to orders from above, I noticed it against Everton. Keep possesion and create a clearer chance and it prevents the breakaway if we do lose it from just looping the ball in. I don't totally agree with the decision but would be happier with it if we'd only shoot more from outside the box ala Mario's goal versus Everton.


Fair enough, but we have to mix it up a bit. It doesn't even HAVE to be an airborne cross, it can be along the ground to the six yard box or even a pass to the edge of the penalty area. Anything to get defenders turning, making it hard for our opponents.
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Re: Wingers.

Postby Blue Since 76 » Wed Sep 28, 2011 7:10 pm

jonesmatthew wrote:Although we have started the season well enough.I get the feeling teams have figured us out.we play everything through the middle.When were attacking teams defend in 2 banks of four.Pretty hard to break down. We need 2 quality wingers in the squad.look at Bayern with Ribery and they had Robben on the bench.I figure if we sell Tevez we will get two wingers and a quality centre half.I don't think toured and lescott will ever be world class. That's what we need to sign. Also away from home in Europe I would of liked the defensive formation we played last season and hit them on the break. I think last night we showed some naivety and it cost us. What do you think ?


So which two players get dropped for the wingers? Go with out and out wingers and you need two up front, otherwise the one has no chance. So that's Aguero and Dzeko. In the middle, you need two players who can tackle, so that means two of de jong /barry /Yaya /milner. So no Nasri or Silva.

having them in the squad isn't too bad, providing they're happy to spend a lot of time on the bench. Mancini clearly wanted Cerci, who would do that job and you could play Johnson on the left, but I suspect that would be an end of the game team, rather than starting with it.
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Re: Wingers.

Postby Slim » Thu Sep 29, 2011 12:08 am

What we are lacking is a true blistering winger -sigh- like Bellamy was for us. Someone to get in behind defences and either cut in and shoot or cross to the descending hordes.
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Re: Wingers.

Postby kinkylola » Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:49 am

with the depth we have, I would like to see mancini make use of our depth as a tacitcal tool. We can line up with 2 wingers (Johnson, balotelli?) when needed. It means sitting some high profile players, but I think it could really trip some teams up.

I'm not making this into a mancini's tactics post, I think tactically mancini is very in it, but I would like to see him be a bit more unpredictable.
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Re: Wingers.

Postby john@staustell » Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:07 am

The full backs are supposed to be our wingers. It should be pointed out also that Mancini wanted that Cerci fella but it didn't happen.

Start throwing a couple of wingers out there and you change the dynamic totally. 2 people who are less involved in the game, making the centre weaker, and down the table we go.

Some people think it's as simple as throwing on wingers means more goals.
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