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Re: Edin Dzeko

Postby PALUS » Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:30 pm

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PALUS wrote:Can someone please put the data somewhere how many games this season Dzeko has played, how much Ballo ,Aguero and see who has score how many goals and assists, how many attempts in the goal and outside the goal and then compare it with any attack in England.
Please....


DZEKO
GAMES GOALS ASSISTS SHOTS
18 11 3 65

AGUERO
GAMES GOALS ASSISTS SHOTS
21 14 4 72

BALOTELLI
GAMES GOALS ASSISTS SHOTS
15 9 0 44

He is the 7th highest goals and assists player for the 2011/12 season.

http://www.myfootballfacts.com/Premier_ ... 11-12.html

Some fans need to slap themselves imo....I can understand some having a go at Dzeko for not putting in enough effort now and again but to want him sold..well......the words clueless spring to mind.


Horseface scored a boatload for the scum, never translated into titles though.

Anelka scored 26 for us in a season and we finished 15th one year.

Benjani was in double figures at xmas once.

Anyone who watches City this year would be able to atest that Dzeko often sticks out like a sore thumb with the type of football we play. In a team that plays to his strengths, which ours doesnt, he might have scored double the goals. But if we are not going to change our style of play for him, then why not buy a striker that compliments it?

Ok I think you bought the Time when you bought the cheapest and the best and I think that Chelsea and Liverpool would change in a heartbeat, so if you think that Edin really does not contribute enough to the club then i dont know how it works there but here with fans have a place on the board of club and may affect transfers...So sell him.....
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Re: Edin Dzeko

Postby john68 » Sun Jan 29, 2012 7:58 am

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Some people never learn.

Took Aguerro 2 minutes.


Do you really think so? Personally I think that, as good as Aguerro has been, he is playing nowhere near his potential yet. I think we will see a much different Aguerro, either as this season continues or next season. I think he is still learning about this League.
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Re: Edin Dzeko

Postby ant london » Sun Jan 29, 2012 8:23 am

Fully agree John....mouthwatering prospect isn't it.

In Aguero I really feel that we've finally found the type of striker I've honestly waited all my City supporting life for.

Top top class
At the right age/point in career
Still hungry with loads to prove
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Here for the right reasons and a proper team player

Robinho was an exciting signing but he came for all the wrong reasons and was a flawed character/professional. Ditto Tevez.

AND....he's not even really hit his stride yet. Must be a terrifying thought for the 2012-2013 defences of the PL
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Re: Edin Dzeko

Postby aaron bond » Sun Jan 29, 2012 8:41 am

ant london wrote:Fully agree John....mouthwatering prospect isn't it.

In Aguero I really feel that we've finally found the type of striker I've honestly waited all my City supporting life for.

Top top class
At the right age/point in career
Still hungry with loads to prove
and
Here for the right reasons and a proper team player

Robinho was an exciting signing but he came for all the wrong reasons and was a flawed character/professional. Ditto Tevez.

AND....he's not even really hit his stride yet. Must be a terrifying thought for the 2012-2013 defences of the PL


Agree with all of that. I think Aguero has done amazingly well for his first season, but there is definitely more to come from him. He should score a minimum of 25 goals this season, after that I think 30+ will be the norm.
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Re: Edin Dzeko

Postby Pretty Boy Lee » Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:13 am

With Aguero I genuinely feel we have one of those rare 30 goal a season strikers ala Henry.

That said I also think he needs to play week in week out. A little less rotation next year please.
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Re: Edin Dzeko

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:51 am

Pretty Boy Lee wrote:With Aguero I genuinely feel we have one of those rare 30 goal a season strikers ala Henry.

That said I also think he needs to play week in week out. A little less rotation next year please.


He does play week in week out. Problem is we usually have two games every week.
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Re: Edin Dzeko

Postby Ted Hughes » Sun Jan 29, 2012 10:28 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Pretty Boy Lee wrote:With Aguero I genuinely feel we have one of those rare 30 goal a season strikers ala Henry.

That said I also think he needs to play week in week out. A little less rotation next year please.


He does play week in week out. Problem is we usually have two games every week.


I think Aguero has been carrying a small injury of some kind during quite a few appearences. When I've watched him off the ball, he sometimes doesn't always seem to be moving 100% freely, but he's the kind of player who just gets on with it.

Aguero has shown immediately that he is part of the spine of the team. Dzeko, Balotelli, Milner, Nasri, AJ, DeJong have all made huge contributions at different times but imo none are absolutely guaranteed a long City future. Aguero is here as long s he wants to be.
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Re: Edin Dzeko

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Sun Jan 29, 2012 11:17 am

Ted Hughes wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Pretty Boy Lee wrote:With Aguero I genuinely feel we have one of those rare 30 goal a season strikers ala Henry.

That said I also think he needs to play week in week out. A little less rotation next year please.


He does play week in week out. Problem is we usually have two games every week.


I think Aguero has been carrying a small injury of some kind during quite a few appearences. When I've watched him off the ball, he sometimes doesn't always seem to be moving 100% freely, but he's the kind of player who just gets on with it.

Aguero has shown immediately that he is part of the spine of the team. Dzeko, Balotelli, Milner, Nasri, AJ, DeJong have all made huge contributions at different times but imo none are absolutely guaranteed a long City future. Aguero is here as long s he wants to be.


That's one of the things that many supporters don't quite understand. Most, if not all, players carry some sort of minor injuries throughout the season. That's just the way it is with (professional) footballers. Your back is aching, your joints are aching, your toes are chronically fucked and your ankles hurt every single morning. Because of that, and obvious stamina issues, certain amount of squad rotation is NEEDED. It's not an option but necessity. I'm sure Mancini would LOVE to put Aguero out there for 90 minutes every single, I mean which manager wouldn't. But it's just not possible. So you ride the situation and try to push the player in the line up as much as you can without risking long term injury.

I read while back that during Liverpool's cup treble season Sami Hyypia set some sort of record for games during a season (for outfield player) starting every single game which totaled to something like 68 (not sure but that's the number I seem to remember) games during the season. In extreme cases that's just about doable for centerback. No midfielder or striker could ever deal with that amount of games. Their bodies would simply break from all the kicking they'd get and sheer amount of miles they'd run. Active player, like Aguero for example, who participates in almost all areas of the pitch two games in a week amounts to well over 20 miles a week running. And that's not jogging. Those are bursts and sprints.

That's why all those "we have world class starting XI so we should be challenging in all fronts" posts are so ridiculous. If you are going to challenge in two cups, Euro competitions and league you'll need top notch squad and players on the bench who can contribute.
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Re: Edin Dzeko

Postby Ted Hughes » Sun Jan 29, 2012 11:24 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Pretty Boy Lee wrote:With Aguero I genuinely feel we have one of those rare 30 goal a season strikers ala Henry.

That said I also think he needs to play week in week out. A little less rotation next year please.


He does play week in week out. Problem is we usually have two games every week.


I think Aguero has been carrying a small injury of some kind during quite a few appearences. When I've watched him off the ball, he sometimes doesn't always seem to be moving 100% freely, but he's the kind of player who just gets on with it.

Aguero has shown immediately that he is part of the spine of the team. Dzeko, Balotelli, Milner, Nasri, AJ, DeJong have all made huge contributions at different times but imo none are absolutely guaranteed a long City future. Aguero is here as long s he wants to be.


That's one of the things that many supporters don't quite understand. Most, if not all, players carry some sort of minor injuries throughout the season. That's just the way it is with (professional) footballers. Your back is aching, your joints are aching, your toes are chronically fucked and your ankles hurt every single morning. Because of that, and obvious stamina issues, certain amount of squad rotation is NEEDED. It's not an option but necessity. I'm sure Mancini would LOVE to put Aguero out there for 90 minutes every single, I mean which manager wouldn't. But it's just not possible. So you ride the situation and try to push the player in the line up as much as you can without risking long term injury.

I read while back that during Liverpool's cup treble season Sami Hyypia set some sort of record for games during a season (for outfield player) starting every single game which totaled to something like 68 (not sure but that's the number I seem to remember) games during the season. In extreme cases that's just about doable for centerback. No midfielder or striker could ever deal with that amount of games. Their bodies would simply break from all the kicking they'd get and sheer amount of miles they'd run. Active player, like Aguero for example, who participates in almost all areas of the pitch two games in a week amounts to well over 20 miles a week running. And that's not jogging. Those are bursts and sprints.

That's why all those "we have world class starting XI so we should be challenging in all fronts" posts are so ridiculous. If you are going to challenge in two cups, Euro competitions and league you'll need top notch squad and players on the bench who can contribute.


Absolutely. The quest for two top class players in every position still goes on. Some have yet to 100% prove themselves & others have proved not to be good enough. I don't think Bob will stop trying to improve that & changes will be made until whatever 11 we put out is the same strength.

Silva's dip in form was down to a niggling injury imo. He mentioned it in an interview but it slipped under the radar on the whole.
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Re: Edin Dzeko

Postby PALUS » Sun Jan 29, 2012 12:07 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:
PALUS wrote:
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PALUS wrote:Can someone please put the data somewhere how many games this season Dzeko has played, how much Ballo ,Aguero and see who has score how many goals and assists, how many attempts in the goal and outside the goal and then compare it with any attack in England.
Please....


DZEKO
GAMES GOALS ASSISTS SHOTS
18 11 3 65

AGUERO
GAMES GOALS ASSISTS SHOTS
21 14 4 72

BALOTELLI
GAMES GOALS ASSISTS SHOTS
15 9 0 44

He is the 7th highest goals and assists player for the 2011/12 season.

http://www.myfootballfacts.com/Premier_ ... 11-12.html

Some fans need to slap themselves imo....I can understand some having a go at Dzeko for not putting in enough effort now and again but to want him sold..well......the words clueless spring to mind.

Thanks and now who has the better three strikers in Premiere, yet we all agree that we dont have the best delivery and crosses, i would understand that these figures are not like this but all strikers have bad and good games we have three different attackers ,all are effective at what they do or City could not fight for the title and the team has just created.It will only get bether.


We may not be great at delivering crosses, but we are one of the best attacking teams in Europe, so any decent striker will get a lot of goalscoring opportunities over a season. Imo neither Dzeko nor Aguero are converting as many as they should do at the moment.

Yet somhow DZeko is always the guilty party , lets thuink for a moment that he had red card like Ballo he will be worst player ever nobody relly like him for some reason and hes always sucks , and Aguero spend 10 chances in game nobody say nothing ...Thats why i think he should leave City for hes own sake , us for City funs must be more patient, AC Milan was a bad first season with that team who later won three league champions Barcelona for a long time I waited to turn into this, nothing is going all that fast, to have in one season invincible team.
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Re: Edin Dzeko

Postby Pretty Boy Lee » Sun Jan 29, 2012 12:18 pm

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
He does play week in week out. Problem is we usually have two games every week.


Sorry but a cup semi final with plenty of days rest after and he was benched. He may not be one of the more rotated, but even still it's noticeable.
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Re: Edin Dzeko

Postby Blue Since 76 » Sun Jan 29, 2012 12:22 pm

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:

That's why all those "we have world class starting XI so we should be challenging in all fronts" posts are so ridiculous. If you are going to challenge in two cups, Euro competitions and league you'll need top notch squad and players on the bench who can contribute.


And dzeko has shown that if he's rested he turns back into his shit brother. So either we play him every game, which apparently won't work or we accept that rotation is another weakness in his game. To go with aggression, spirit, first touch, pace, strength etc. Would live to see what that player dossier we had on him said.
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