Sister of fu wrote:bobby brows wrote:I'll start by saying that 100% of the media and most football 'fans' understand fuck all about goalkeeping. They think its all about shot stopping and if you concede goals that there all your fault. People don't understand things like being unsighted when the ball is kicked; they assume that because they can see it on tv that the keeper must be able to see it through a crowd of players. I didn't see all the goals last night and i'm not sure I can really comment on them but if Joe made mistakes; keepers make mistakes every single week in every single game but most people have no clue about goalkeeping they wouldn't be able to spot it.
He was fault for the third which was a free kick from a fair distant out. Just as the ball was hit he took a gamble with a slight movement to his right and the ball went left, the movement to the right was enough to prevent him getting down to his left quick enough. Pretty poor for him but he knew it by the way he just lay there.
The 4th was a freak goal, one in a million. Joe didn't cover himself in any glory but I think by that point all faith in his back 4 had gone so he took a gamble which went tits up. If your going to come haring out ya goal like he did you have to get enough on it. Have you really not see that goal yet. As I said freak.
Sorry i was just talking about goalkeeping in general. I've re-watched the goals the one i'd be most concerned about is the 2nd goal, it was a bit similar to spurs goal on sat; Joe got his body to it but couldn't turn it round the post, having said that it was leathered at him from point blank range.
For the third he's stood too far behind his wall and his view is also blocked by a team mate. When a keeper sets up a wall it should be covering one side of the goal and the keeper the other. That way if the free kick taker takes on the wall and scores its a great free kick. If he takes on the keeper the goalie should be the favourite to save it. If he stands in the middle he's unsighted of the ball until its kicked and past the wall and if its in the corner its usually a goal. (for examples look at pretty much every free kick taken against Shay Given ever - Kolarov in the LC this year)
For the 4th, the ball takes a unusually high bounce as Joe comes out so he heads the ball with the top of his head instead of his forehead. Personally I blame Shawcross for ambling back to the goal-line to clear it. Couldn't he have ambled against us in the league?
Joe's a young keeper, he's still improving, he won't hit his peak as a keeper til his mid 30s, its a testament to how good a keeper is he's made so few mistakes we can analyse them individually.
