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Re: Lets Not Make Mistakes Again.

Postby Peter Doherty (AGAIG) » Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:23 pm

I have trouble with this notion of a 'mistake'. What's a mistake? Something you didn't intend to happen but did, or something you intended to happen but didn't? Then the whole of life is pretty much a mistake, with the occasional exception.
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Re: Lets Not Make Mistakes Again.

Postby Beefymcfc » Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:26 pm

Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:I have trouble with this notion of a 'mistake'. What's a mistake? Something you didn't intend to happen but did, or something you intended to happen but didn't? Then the whole of life is pretty much a mistake, with the occasional exception.

A mistakle is something you get wrong.
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Re: Lets Not Make Mistakes Again.

Postby Peter Doherty (AGAIG) » Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:28 pm

Beefymcfc wrote:
Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:I have trouble with this notion of a 'mistake'. What's a mistake? Something you didn't intend to happen but did, or something you intended to happen but didn't? Then the whole of life is pretty much a mistake, with the occasional exception.

A mistakle is something you get wrong.

As I said, the whole of life with the occasional exception (including the occasional stray letter 'l').
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Re: Lets Not Make Mistakes Again.

Postby s1ty m » Wed Apr 24, 2013 9:47 am

I am a little bothered by the transfer market and how it's looking. The bullies are winning; Bayern, The Rags, etc are starting to bend the rules their way, as per normal. PSG seem to be able to spend whatever they wish despite FFP, yet the richest of all clubs, ie us, don't seem to be at the head of the queue. RVP, Gotze, now probably Cavani and we don't appear to have been anywhere near to them. If Falcao and Bale are snapped up elsewhere, we may find ourselves chasing others for some time.
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Re: Lets Not Make Mistakes Again.

Postby Hazy2 » Wed Apr 24, 2013 11:08 am

Bayern showed what a squad can do. No Kroos, no leading front man, Gomez in from Siberia to do a job, Squads win handsdown even with best players missing you can cope. Mancini has IMHO opinion lacked the skills to make the best of players he saw as bit part, that is a fault he hasto sort out. He was after improvement something the haters forget When in fact he saw it coming was he not right, have we not been blown away by a rag squad of nothing more than numbers in depth and Match winner signed to boost the goals tally. If he had signed all the players he wanted and failed I would be the 1st to give it him.
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Re: Lets Not Make Mistakes Again.

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Wed Apr 24, 2013 11:27 am

Hazy2 wrote:Bayern showed what a squad can do. No Kroos, no leading front man, Gomez in from Siberia to do a job, Squads win handsdown even with best players missing you can cope. Mancini has IMHO opinion lacked the skills to make the best of players he saw as bit part, that is a fault he hasto sort out. He was after improvement something the haters forget When in fact he saw it coming was he not right, have we not been blown away by a rag squad of nothing more than numbers in depth and Match winner signed to boost the goals tally. If he had signed all the players he wanted and failed I would be the 1st to give it him.


The Bayern Manager showed what managing is all about , he is light years ahead of managers like Mancini regarding set ups and tactics.

Re the OP - Mancini hasnt learnt anything from his mistakes as the cunt KEEPS ON REPEATING THEM, time and time and time again.
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Re: Lets Not Make Mistakes Again.

Postby Hazy2 » Wed Apr 24, 2013 11:58 am

carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Hazy2 wrote:Bayern showed what a squad can do. No Kroos, no leading front man, Gomez in from Siberia to do a job, Squads win handsdown even with best players missing you can cope. Mancini has IMHO opinion lacked the skills to make the best of players he saw as bit part, that is a fault he hasto sort out. He was after improvement something the haters forget When in fact he saw it coming was he not right, have we not been blown away by a rag squad of nothing more than numbers in depth and Match winner signed to boost the goals tally. If he had signed all the players he wanted and failed I would be the 1st to give it him.


The Bayern Manager showed what managing is all about , he is light years ahead of managers like Mancini regarding set ups and tactics.

Re the OP - Mancini hasnt learnt anything from his mistakes as the cunt KEEPS ON REPEATING THEM, time and time and time again.



The cunt as you refer to him saw it coming, as for Bayern they have been doing it for yrs not months, Get a grip FFS YOU ARE SOUNDING LIKE A SPASTIC RAG WHEN ROMAN RAN OF WITH THE LEAGUE. If we had beaten Spurs and should have you would be sat there with FUCK ALL to say FACT. That said I still love yer xx
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Re: Lets Not Make Mistakes Again.

Postby MilnersJaw » Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:00 pm

we had 0 chance getting a top striker in the summer just gone. mainly because he had 4 apparent top strikers with at least one of them always struggling to get a game. one of the main reasons rvp never came, he didn't want to struggle for a starting place.

we need to sell at least one striker and make sure retain serigo and buy another. if not someone creative in midfield and some speed. our creativity is extremely lacking and our counter attacking is so slow it gets broken down before it begins.
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Re: Lets Not Make Mistakes Again.

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:12 pm

Hazy2 wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Hazy2 wrote:Bayern showed what a squad can do. No Kroos, no leading front man, Gomez in from Siberia to do a job, Squads win handsdown even with best players missing you can cope. Mancini has IMHO opinion lacked the skills to make the best of players he saw as bit part, that is a fault he hasto sort out. He was after improvement something the haters forget When in fact he saw it coming was he not right, have we not been blown away by a rag squad of nothing more than numbers in depth and Match winner signed to boost the goals tally. If he had signed all the players he wanted and failed I would be the 1st to give it him.


The Bayern Manager showed what managing is all about , he is light years ahead of managers like Mancini regarding set ups and tactics.

Re the OP - Mancini hasnt learnt anything from his mistakes as the cunt KEEPS ON REPEATING THEM, time and time and time again.



The cunt as you refer to him saw it coming, as for Bayern they have been doing it for yrs not months, Get a grip FFS YOU ARE SOUNDING LIKE A SPASTIC RAG WHEN ROMAN RAN OF WITH THE LEAGUE. If we had beaten Spurs and should have you would be sat there with FUCK ALL to say FACT. That said I still love yer xx


Eh?????? What a crock of shite , Im on here all the time commenting, win,draw or fuckign lose, so stop talking utter shite.

Mancini made loads of tactical and set up mistakes this season and decided to make them again and again !!!!which part of that doesnt compute with you??????????
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Re: Lets Not Make Mistakes Again.

Postby Hazy2 » Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:33 pm

carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Hazy2 wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Hazy2 wrote:Bayern showed what a squad can do. No Kroos, no leading front man, Gomez in from Siberia to do a job, Squads win handsdown even with best players missing you can cope. Mancini has IMHO opinion lacked the skills to make the best of players he saw as bit part, that is a fault he hasto sort out. He was after improvement something the haters forget When in fact he saw it coming was he not right, have we not been blown away by a rag squad of nothing more than numbers in depth and Match winner signed to boost the goals tally. If he had signed all the players he wanted and failed I would be the 1st to give it him.


The Bayern Manager showed what managing is all about , he is light years ahead of managers like Mancini regarding set ups and tactics.

Re the OP - Mancini hasnt learnt anything from his mistakes as the cunt KEEPS ON REPEATING THEM, time and time and time again.



The cunt as you refer to him saw it coming, as for Bayern they have been doing it for yrs not months, Get a grip FFS YOU ARE SOUNDING LIKE A SPASTIC RAG WHEN ROMAN RAN OF WITH THE LEAGUE. If we had beaten Spurs and should have you would be sat there with FUCK ALL to say FACT. That said I still love yer xx


Eh?????? What a crock of shite , Im on here all the time commenting, win,draw or fuckign lose, so stop talking utter shite.

Mancini made loads of tactical and set up mistakes this season and decided to make them again and again !!!!which part of that doesnt compute with you??????????


Mancini did not duck against the Scum, Or miss chance after chance all season. It computes with me he is a stubborn, You are just off your tits if you think lets do a Chelsea and Install a revolving door. And before you say it has worked, who gives a fuck. Case closed have a fucking Solero.
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Re: Lets Not Make Mistakes Again.

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:38 pm

Hazy2 wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Hazy2 wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Hazy2 wrote:Bayern showed what a squad can do. No Kroos, no leading front man, Gomez in from Siberia to do a job, Squads win handsdown even with best players missing you can cope. Mancini has IMHO opinion lacked the skills to make the best of players he saw as bit part, that is a fault he hasto sort out. He was after improvement something the haters forget When in fact he saw it coming was he not right, have we not been blown away by a rag squad of nothing more than numbers in depth and Match winner signed to boost the goals tally. If he had signed all the players he wanted and failed I would be the 1st to give it him.


The Bayern Manager showed what managing is all about , he is light years ahead of managers like Mancini regarding set ups and tactics.

Re the OP - Mancini hasnt learnt anything from his mistakes as the cunt KEEPS ON REPEATING THEM, time and time and time again.



The cunt as you refer to him saw it coming, as for Bayern they have been doing it for yrs not months, Get a grip FFS YOU ARE SOUNDING LIKE A SPASTIC RAG WHEN ROMAN RAN OF WITH THE LEAGUE. If we had beaten Spurs and should have you would be sat there with FUCK ALL to say FACT. That said I still love yer xx


Eh?????? What a crock of shite , Im on here all the time commenting, win,draw or fuckign lose, so stop talking utter shite.

Mancini made loads of tactical and set up mistakes this season and decided to make them again and again !!!!which part of that doesnt compute with you??????????


Mancini did not duck against the Scum, Or miss chance after chance all season. It computes with me he is a stubborn, You are just off your tits if you think lets do a Chelsea and Install a revolving door. And before you say it has worked, who gives a fuck. Case closed have a fucking Solero.


Your getting worse , who the fuck wants us to do a "chelsea"???? where the fuck have I said I want us to do a chelsea? Ill tell you where...NO FUCKING WHERE HAVE I SAID LETS DO A CHELSEA.

You are off your rocker son.
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Re: Lets Not Make Mistakes Again.

Postby Hazy2 » Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:46 pm

Thanks Dad, I am after a liitle more than nited won league sack him, If he fails in Champs League yep 3 strikes and out, He has pissed me off many times this season, he has though worn his heart on his sleave and gone mental at Madrid away Scum at Home all factors that have caused you so much pain, On the other hand he has brought a League trophy and 2 cup finals , so what is that worth, fuck all in your world, off my rocker home and away for best part of 20 yrs no medals for 17 of em just a little bit of faith one day we might do something, You are nuts if you think sacking him is teh key to the door. As for Chelsea Its as an example, when the Scum is teh example of what comes from a touch of stability.
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Re: Lets Not Make Mistakes Again.

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Wed Apr 24, 2013 1:02 pm

Hazy2 wrote:Thanks Dad, I am after a liitle more than nited won league sack him, If he fails in Champs League yep 3 strikes and out, He has pissed me off many times this season, he has though worn his heart on his sleave and gone mental at Madrid away Scum at Home all factors that have caused you so much pain, On the other hand he has brought a League trophy and 2 cup finals , so what is that worth, fuck all in your world, off my rocker home and away for best part of 20 yrs no medals for 17 of em just a little bit of faith one day we might do something, You are nuts if you think sacking him is teh key to the door. As for Chelsea Its as an example, when the Scum is teh example of what comes from a touch of stability.


I dont think you get it , much like many on here dont get it.
I have zero problem not winning the prem or even not getting to the quarterfinals of the cl , nope I have no problem whatsoever.
What I have a problem with is the manner in which we went out of the cl and the manner in which we ALLOWED THE SCUM TO WIN THE PREM months ago!..yep,not weeks ago,months ago we lost the prem.
I have a problem with half arsed performances from the players during matches against lower clubs,mistakes I can sort of forgive,half arsed performances I cannot - the manager is responsible for that....you want to mention the scum as being an example, alright then,the fuckign drunken tramp wouldnt have tolerated half arsed performances from his players otherwise he would have dropped them.Make up as many excuses as you like why players like Kompany and Hart etc were not dropped but they should have been and Mancini should have acted.

The above is just a few points,too many more to mention ,too many mistakes,he made the same ones 2 years running in the CL..clueless he was and his past history supports the theory that he will always be clueless in that comp.

As far as tactics go , he is average at best...has no plan B , very rarely have we seen a tactical performance from him that has changed a game and won it for us.

I said all along , if we fight to the death and lose the prem then I will accept it.......but we havent have we, we gave up with an embarrassing whimper.
The FA cup can save him for another year but if we dont win it then Mancini shouldnt cry if hes fired.
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Re: Lets Not Make Mistakes Again.

Postby DoomMerchant » Wed Apr 24, 2013 1:07 pm

carl_feedthegoat wrote:
I dont think you get it , much like many on here dont get it.
I have zero problem not winning the prem or even not getting to the quarterfinals of the cl , nope I have no problem whatsoever.
What I have a problem with is the manner in which we went out of the cl and the manner in which we ALLOWED THE SCUM TO WIN THE PREM months ago!..yep,not weeks ago,months ago we lost the prem.
I have a problem with half arsed performances from the players during matches against lower clubs,mistakes I can sort of forgive,half arsed performances I cannot - the manager is responsible for that....you want to mention the scum as being an example, alright then,the fuckign drunken tramp wouldnt have tolerated half arsed performances from his players otherwise he would have dropped them.Make up as many excuses as you like why players like Kompany and Hart etc were not dropped but they should have been and Mancini should have acted.

The above is just a few points,too many more to mention ,too many mistakes,he made the same ones 2 years running in the CL..clueless he was and his past history supports the theory that he will always be clueless in that comp.

As far as tactics go , he is average at best...has no plan B , very rarely have we seen a tactical performance from him that has changed a game and won it for us.

I said all along , if we fight to the death and lose the prem then I will accept it.......but we havent have we, we gave up with an embarrassing whimper.
The FA cup can save him for another year but if we dont win it then Mancini shouldnt cry if hes fired.


He wont cry. He will get a huge payout and go to Monaco to lick his wounds.
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Re: Lets Not Make Mistakes Again.

Postby Blue Since 76 » Wed Apr 24, 2013 1:25 pm

MilnersJaw wrote:we had 0 chance getting a top striker in the summer just gone. mainly because he had 4 apparent top strikers with at least one of them always struggling to get a game. one of the main reasons rvp never came, he didn't want to struggle for a starting place.

we need to sell at least one striker and make sure retain serigo and buy another. if not someone creative in midfield and some speed. our creativity is extremely lacking and our counter attacking is so slow it gets broken down before it begins.


I agree and that's why we sold Mario when we did. AC would have waited until 31st August to buy him in summer so I think we accepted the shortcomings it could cause this season for the benefit of next.

I think Dzeko will go and maybe Tevez, but we can bring one in straight away as there's a place available for them. If Giudetti is coming into the squad as well, it could be one in and Mario and Dzeko out.
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Re: Lets Not Make Mistakes Again.

Postby Hazy2 » Wed Apr 24, 2013 1:31 pm

carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Hazy2 wrote:Thanks Dad, I am after a liitle more than nited won league sack him, If he fails in Champs League yep 3 strikes and out, He has pissed me off many times this season, he has though worn his heart on his sleave and gone mental at Madrid away Scum at Home all factors that have caused you so much pain, On the other hand he has brought a League trophy and 2 cup finals , so what is that worth, fuck all in your world, off my rocker home and away for best part of 20 yrs no medals for 17 of em just a little bit of faith one day we might do something, You are nuts if you think sacking him is teh key to the door. As for Chelsea Its as an example, when the Scum is teh example of what comes from a touch of stability.


I dont think you get it , much like many on here dont get it.
I have zero problem not winning the prem or even not getting to the quarterfinals of the cl , nope I have no problem whatsoever.
What I have a problem with is the manner in which we went out of the cl and the manner in which we ALLOWED THE SCUM TO WIN THE PREM months ago!..yep,not weeks ago,months ago we lost the prem.
I have a problem with half arsed performances from the players during matches against lower clubs,mistakes I can sort of forgive,half arsed performances I cannot - the manager is responsible for that....you want to mention the scum as being an example, alright then,the fuckign drunken tramp wouldnt have tolerated half arsed performances from his players otherwise he would have dropped them.Make up as many excuses as you like why players like Kompany and Hart etc were not dropped but they should have been and Mancini should have acted.

The above is just a few points,too many more to mention ,too many mistakes,he made the same ones 2 years running in the CL..clueless he was and his past history supports the theory that he will always be clueless in that comp.

As far as tactics go , he is average at best...has no plan B , very rarely have we seen a tactical performance from him that has changed a game and won it for us.

I said all along , if we fight to the death and lose the prem then I will accept it.......but we havent have we, we gave up with an embarrassing whimper.
The FA cup can save him for another year but if we dont win it then Mancini shouldnt cry if hes fired.



He will not cry, HE WILL SAY I FUCKING TOLD YOU SO, When he had the signings what list would he have had the Sinclairs and Rodders been on list 1, NO. When Marwood and him had the fallout was that becuase we had 1 or lost 1 NO it's simple we did not improve the squad as he told him we needed to to step up again, I have loads of time for the argument he is a failure in the CL, I get it in fact the 4 champs and two from our group in the semi's is does give him some rope but not much TBH PSG and Malaga kill that goose stone dead. fail again gone I get that and yes that will be the case.What I will not have from blues is we know better it is all his fault, that is a crock of shite. We know fuck all coz we have never been here before, Dortmund were the best team I have ever seen at the Etihad, no fucker saw that coming 3rd or 4th attempt at the CL for them and now being dismantled where we are virgins at it, Mancini makes mistakes with a team that looks like it has potential not champs that is a club mentality from yrs of strength of power or I am in charge, Players fear no manager now, Mancini has rattled many a cage this season some say shit management, He was right mostly Nasri ducked and Joe Hart threw a ball out at 2-2, Glychy fooked about when he should have taken 30 secs and killed the clock Rednose has had yrs of Bullshiting players they are needed, We have players who won the League and have dined out on it since to some extent. Mancini, knows that and if had his way would have rolled around the carpark with half of them, I went to a lunch he did and you could see he hates losing possibly more than certain players have this season. All that around a rag press awaiting the next crisis. Maybe the rags could teach us to sort out the P.R side better for him or the next manager. Just to add the Monaco one from pre season maybe why Marwood thought twice about mass spending to be balanced.
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Re: Lets Not Make Mistakes Again.

Postby Hazy2 » Wed Apr 24, 2013 1:34 pm

carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Hazy2 wrote:Thanks Dad, I am after a liitle more than nited won league sack him, If he fails in Champs League yep 3 strikes and out, He has pissed me off many times this season, he has though worn his heart on his sleave and gone mental at Madrid away Scum at Home all factors that have caused you so much pain, On the other hand he has brought a League trophy and 2 cup finals , so what is that worth, fuck all in your world, off my rocker home and away for best part of 20 yrs no medals for 17 of em just a little bit of faith one day we might do something, You are nuts if you think sacking him is teh key to the door. As for Chelsea Its as an example, when the Scum is teh example of what comes from a touch of stability.


I dont think you get it , much like many on here dont get it.
I have zero problem not winning the prem or even not getting to the quarterfinals of the cl , nope I have no problem whatsoever.
What I have a problem with is the manner in which we went out of the cl and the manner in which we ALLOWED THE SCUM TO WIN THE PREM months ago!..yep,not weeks ago,months ago we lost the prem.
I have a problem with half arsed performances from the players during matches against lower clubs,mistakes I can sort of forgive,half arsed performances I cannot - the manager is responsible for that....you want to mention the scum as being an example, alright then,the fuckign drunken tramp wouldnt have tolerated half arsed performances from his players otherwise he would have dropped them.Make up as many excuses as you like why players like Kompany and Hart etc were not dropped but they should have been and Mancini should have acted.

The above is just a few points,too many more to mention ,too many mistakes,he made the same ones 2 years running in the CL..clueless he was and his past history supports the theory that he will always be clueless in that comp.

As far as tactics go , he is average at best...has no plan B , very rarely have we seen a tactical performance from him that has changed a game and won it for us.

I said all along , if we fight to the death and lose the prem then I will accept it.......but we havent have we, we gave up with an embarrassing whimper.
The FA cup can save him for another year but if we dont win it then Mancini shouldnt cry if hes fired.



Just to add any sign we are not after his list of players two of which look gone already he will resign.
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