***Official Stoke Tafia vs Gods Own Matchday Thread***

[Bridge'srightfoot]

Mancini has gone but let's not kill the legacy that he's left behind ffs.

Beefy mate, just to go off on a slight tangent.
I agree with a lot of what you are saying about our performances this season, but I can't help notice a degree of double standards.
Last season we played games which were equally as shit as yesterday if not worse yet you defended Mancini to the death and always 'had his back' and were always willing to make excuses for the failings. Yet with Pellegrini you seem to have no problems in slating him for the same mistakes.

You can't have it both ways. I criticized Manicni a hell of a lot last season when he fucked up but I've also criticized the Count for his mistakes. The same doesn't seem to apply for the 'Mancini lickers'

Yes we were shtie yesterday but for the majority of last season we played shite in away games too and I don't recall you or several others laying into Mancini anywhere near as much.

This really isn't meant to be provocative but there does need to be a level of consistency amongst our fans.

Difference being of course that Mancini had won himself room to operate. You could say that despite some poor games he is capable of winning this league because he had actually done it for us. Anywhichway Pellegrini needs to prove himself.

Yesterday was exactly the shame shite away peformance we've mostly churned out since the start of 2012. There have been the odd exceptions such as Newcastle and Norwich away where we always seem to do well, Rags and Arsenal last season to name a couple of others but by and large it's the same script. We just lack any sort of cutting edge in the majority of away games.
Take last season for example, QPR, Sunderland, Southampton, Everton, Spurs, Stoke to name a few.
So far our two away games have been of the same shite standard and it's up to the Count to fix that. If he can't he'll be gone by Christmas.
But let's not pretend that it wasn't a problem under our last manager.

Yes he did win himself room to operate. But it was an ongoing problem he failed to fix.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

Mancini has gone but let's not kill the legacy that he's left behind ffs.

Beefy mate, just to go off on a slight tangent.
I agree with a lot of what you are saying about our performances this season, but I can't help notice a degree of double standards.
Last season we played games which were equally as shit as yesterday if not worse yet you defended Mancini to the death and always 'had his back' and were always willing to make excuses for the failings. Yet with Pellegrini you seem to have no problems in slating him for the same mistakes.

You can't have it both ways. I criticized Manicni a hell of a lot last season when he fucked up but I've also criticized the Count for his mistakes. The same doesn't seem to apply for the 'Mancini lickers'

Yes we were shtie yesterday but for the majority of last season we played shite in away games too and I don't recall you or several others laying into Mancini anywhere near as much.

This really isn't meant to be provocative but there does need to be a level of consistency amongst our fans.

Difference being of course that Mancini had won himself room to operate. You could say that despite some poor games he is capable of winning this league because he had actually done it for us. Anywhichway Pellegrini needs to prove himself.

Yesterday was exactly the shame shite away peformance we've mostly churned out since the start of 2012. There have been the odd exceptions such as Newcastle and Norwich away where we always seem to do well, Rags and Arsenal last season to name a couple of others but by and large it's the same script. We just lack any sort of cutting edge in the majority of away games.
Take last season for example, QPR, Sunderland, Southampton, Everton, Spurs, Stoke to name a few.
So far our two away games have been of the same shite standard and it's up to the Count to fix that. If he can't he'll be gone by Christmas.
But let's not pretend that it wasn't a problem under our last manager.

Yes he did win himself room to operate. But it was an ongoing problem he failed to fix.

I'm failing to see what Pellegrini has done to fix that shit though. Even forgetting the argument whether this was as bad as our worst hours under Mancini or even worse, point is that three out of four games he has been as bad as Mancini at his worst.

Now I was ready to give this guy a chance and I'm not calling for his head but whatever his plans were for taking on Premier League, it's failing big time. We are not talking about just results here or somem tiny tweaks needed here and there. We are not talking about injuries either or some gelling period. WE ARE COMPLETE HORSESHIT ALL OVER THE PARK. Defence, midfield and attack. All shit.

[Bridge'srightfoot]

Mancini has gone but let's not kill the legacy that he's left behind ffs.

Beefy mate, just to go off on a slight tangent.
I agree with a lot of what you are saying about our performances this season, but I can't help notice a degree of double standards.
Last season we played games which were equally as shit as yesterday if not worse yet you defended Mancini to the death and always 'had his back' and were always willing to make excuses for the failings. Yet with Pellegrini you seem to have no problems in slating him for the same mistakes.

You can't have it both ways. I criticized Manicni a hell of a lot last season when he fucked up but I've also criticized the Count for his mistakes. The same doesn't seem to apply for the 'Mancini lickers'

Yes we were shtie yesterday but for the majority of last season we played shite in away games too and I don't recall you or several others laying into Mancini anywhere near as much.

This really isn't meant to be provocative but there does need to be a level of consistency amongst our fans.

Difference being of course that Mancini had won himself room to operate. You could say that despite some poor games he is capable of winning this league because he had actually done it for us. Anywhichway Pellegrini needs to prove himself.

Yesterday was exactly the shame shite away peformance we've mostly churned out since the start of 2012. There have been the odd exceptions such as Newcastle and Norwich away where we always seem to do well, Rags and Arsenal last season to name a couple of others but by and large it's the same script. We just lack any sort of cutting edge in the majority of away games.
Take last season for example, QPR, Sunderland, Southampton, Everton, Spurs, Stoke to name a few.
So far our two away games have been of the same shite standard and it's up to the Count to fix that. If he can't he'll be gone by Christmas.
But let's not pretend that it wasn't a problem under our last manager.

Yes he did win himself room to operate. But it was an ongoing problem he failed to fix.

I'm failing to see what Pellegrini has done to fix that shit though. Even forgetting the argument whether this was as bad as our worst hours under Mancini or even worse, point is that three out of four games he has been as bad as Mancini at his worst.

Now I was ready to give this guy a chance and I'm not calling for his head but whatever his plans were for taking on Premier League, it's failing big time. We are not talking about just results here or somem tiny tweaks needed here and there. We are not talking about injuries either or some gelling period. WE ARE COMPLETE HORSESHIT ALL OVER THE PARK. Defence, midfield and attack. All shit.

There have been positive signs amongst the shit though. As I said earlier, our first goal against Hull where we broke, got the ball out wide quickly, put a first time cross in the box and have someone attack it is something we hadn't done at all last season.
Mancini did this superbly against Spurs away and Rags away in the title winning season and then for some reason stopped doing it.
Against Newcastle we saw us get the ball forward QUICKER and cross quicker. Signs of progress in that department.
Defensively we've been shite and got away with it but this was also the case in a lot of games last season so no difference there.


He's only had 4 games. If it continues like this he'll be sacked but it seems some are writing him off without giving him a chance. The same people who were more than happy to allow for equally shite performances under our last manager.
The one thing I'm perplexed about though is Navas. Why sign a winger who specialises out wide and then tell him to come inside the whole time. We bought him to stretch the pitch and give more room for our creative players but it seems to be having the opposite effect.

[Jorgobot]

Brilliant! !! End to end stuff. Shit loads of chances bit of a thriller. So unlucky not to get six or seven.

Well thats disappointing...but as long as we are positive im happy for now

[Jorgobot]

way to be a cool guy.

Impressive vid