First Impressions Of Jesus?

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Re: First Impressions Of Jesus?

Postby Herb » Thu Feb 20, 2014 6:24 pm

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The sooner you stop acting like a complete and utter fucking cretin and accept that people have different opinions to you then you might start to earn some respect.[/quote]

Oh deary me I've upset foreveruphisownarse and he's gone all sweary on me.

tch tch now now.
If we had De Gea and the rags had Hart, we'd be top with a 9 point lead and they'd be in 12th place - that's the difference between a 'good' keeper and a 'top class' keeper - 12 places - think about it.
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Re: First Impressions Of Jesus?

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Sun Mar 09, 2014 7:24 pm

Not meaning to get on his back but he's been looking a little one dimensional recently. He's great when we're countering at pace and he has his defender one on one. However when our build up is slow and he starts from a stationary position and the opposition fullback just jockeys him, he really struggles to beat to his man. His main trick is his drop of the shoulder and drive but today I can't really remember him getting a cross off apart from the one from Yaya's through ball.

Needs to give us that little bit more, like he was doing just a few weeks ago.
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Re: First Impressions Of Jesus?

Postby bigblue » Sun Mar 09, 2014 7:32 pm

Bridge'srightfoot wrote:Not meaning to get on his back but he's been looking a little one dimensional recently. He's great when we're countering at pace and he has his defender one on one. However when our build up is slow and he starts from a stationary position and the opposition fullback just jockeys him, he really struggles to beat to his man. His main trick is his drop of the shoulder and drive but today I can't really remember him getting a cross off apart from the one from Yaya's through ball.

Needs to give us that little bit more, like he was doing just a few weeks ago.


Part of the problem is that he is getting the ball very close to the goal line, with the defender already set in place. He is much more effective when given the ball in further from the endline so that he can take on the defender with his pace. When he gets the ball next to the penalty box, his options are limited to finding a pass or doing a quick feint to get a yard for a cross.

So while I agree that he's not as effective as earlier in the season, a large part of it is because we are moving the ball slower and not getting it quick enough to the players in the right areas.
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Re: First Impressions Of Jesus?

Postby Moonchesteri » Sun Mar 09, 2014 7:35 pm

Bridge'srightfoot wrote:Not meaning to get on his back but he's been looking a little one dimensional recently. He's great when we're countering at pace and he has his defender one on one. However when our build up is slow and he starts from a stationary position and the opposition fullback just jockeys him, he really struggles to beat to his man. His main trick is his drop of the shoulder and drive but today I can't really remember him getting a cross off apart from the one from Yaya's through ball. Needs to give us that little bit more, like he was doing just a few weeks ago.


Recently? I think he's been pretty much the same all season so genuinely interested what else you feel he did previously this season?
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Re: First Impressions Of Jesus?

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Sun Mar 09, 2014 7:40 pm

bigblue wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:Not meaning to get on his back but he's been looking a little one dimensional recently. He's great when we're countering at pace and he has his defender one on one. However when our build up is slow and he starts from a stationary position and the opposition fullback just jockeys him, he really struggles to beat to his man. His main trick is his drop of the shoulder and drive but today I can't really remember him getting a cross off apart from the one from Yaya's through ball.

Needs to give us that little bit more, like he was doing just a few weeks ago.


Part of the problem is that he is getting the ball very close to the goal line, with the defender already set in place. He is much more effective when given the ball in further from the endline so that he can take on the defender with his pace. When he gets the ball next to the penalty box, his options are limited to finding a pass or doing a quick feint to get a yard for a cross.

So while I agree that he's not as effective as earlier in the season, a large part of it is because we are moving the ball slower and not getting it quick enough to the players in the right areas.

True.
I think though he needs to try and mimick Nasri a little bit. Nasri is one of the best at finding space and dancing through two or three bodies and he doesn't even need pace to do it.
Adam Johnson was also really good at this but he was consistently played on the wrong wing so when he beat his man he was going onto his weaker foot most of the time.
As I was always told, skill is so much more difficult to defend against then pace, although a combination of the two a la Tranaldo is obviously the best.

Back to Navas,you're right but it begs the question of what we should do? Milner today when he came on got more crosses off in 30 odd minutes then Navas did in the previous sixty. Milner is also great at finding that half a yard and delivering in with either foot.
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Re: First Impressions Of Jesus?

Postby Saul Goodman » Sun Mar 09, 2014 7:54 pm

Hhe's way too inconsistent. It is still his first season in a foreign country in a new league though
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