Is the media finally turning??

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Re: Is the media finally turning??

Postby Wonderwall » Mon Mar 03, 2014 2:13 pm

and NO again, this is Sky Sports little article

Wembley verdict
Manchester City were sluggish as Sunderland demonstrated just how much it all meant, but class inevitably remains permanent. Edin Dzeko, though, had a Wembley outing to forget. Daniel Storey picks his conclusions from the Capital One Cup final...

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It may sound churlish and misty-eyed, but the way in which Sunderland's supporters cherished this occasion was reflected perfectly in the performance of the players at the start of the game. This was not just a group of fans desperate for success and players wanting to impress but respectful of their opponents, it felt like a city and club pulling together for the same goal.

It may not be a particularly technical observation, but the most obvious conclusion to draw from the first half was that Sunderland's players just wanted it more. In midfield, Lee Cattermole, Seb Larsson and Jack Colback showed more desire and hunger to press City on the ball than Yaya Toure and Samir Nasri ever did when in possession. Cattermole in particular impressed, quick in the tackle but without the petulance and stupidity that has so frustrated multiple Sunderland managers.

After 22 years without a domestic final, this was a group of fans determined to enjoy their time in the sun. Sunderland's players could not fail to find inspiration in such support and, for close to an hour, it showed. The Capital One Cup has been much-maligned in recent years - this was a strong case that it still retains enough importance in the minds of many to justify its continuation.

Why The High Line?

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The decision to select Martin Demichelis in central defence was strange from Manchester City manager Manuel Pellegrini. Having allowed Costel Pantilimon the chance to retain his Capital One Cup place after playing in all but one tie in the lead up to the final, Joleon Lescott was dropped in favour of Demichelis despite the England international appearing in every minute on route to Wembley.

However, stranger still was the manner in which Demichelis and Vincent Kompany operated positionally. Why would Pellegrini have instructed his defenders to push so high up the field? With Fabio Borini always likely to become isolated, the high ball upfield was the obvious way for Sunderland to look to be dangerous. By having central defenders who lack pace so close to the halfway line, a huge amount of space was left in behind.

Demichelis' selection was also odd combined with the selection of Aleksander Kolarov to his left. Whilst the pace and defensive responsibility of Gael Clichy would have negated Johnson's pace and threat, Kolarov is a full-back more comfortable in the opposition's half than his own. City were left worryingly exposed. Every time a ball was played long, either Borini or Adam Johnson was the favourite to chase it down. City's selection made such a strategy obvious.

The opening goal was the obvious example. Borini was too easily able to leave Demichelis with a simple run but, as against Barcelona in the UEFA Champions League, one of the defensive pair then made a second error to compound the first. Quite why Kompany thought he had to take the ball rather than simply holding up Borini is unclear, but it was a catastrophic error of judgment.

Towards the end of the first half, Borini went clear again (albeit from an offside position), and it took captain Kompany to produce a fabulous sprint and tackle to prevent further danger. A side as expensive as City should not need to rely on such moments.

Borini Showing Signs Of Real Progression

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Fabio Borini's first season at Anfield was dreadful, of that there is no doubt, and one Premier League goal in more than 500 minutes for an £11million fee looks an evident waste of money. That said, this was the Italian's first full season in the Premier League, and he is still just 22 years old.

Perhaps we were too quick to judge Borini. In a struggling Sunderland side he has scored just five times this season, but goals against Newcastle United (twice), Chelsea and Manchester United have all come in impressive victories and performances. There are now signs that a successful Premier League striker is being developed.

His goal against City was sublime. Holding off an overly physical Kompany is no mean feat, but the way in which the forward steadied himself before curling past Pantilimon and into the bottom corner with the outside of his right boot left Kompany and City stunned. It was exactly the sort of finish for which slow-motion replays were invented.

Whilst it would be silly to criticise Liverpool boss Brendan Rodgers during a period in which the club's attacking prowess is evident, was the decision spend £7million on Iago Aspas and then loan out Borini not slightly profligate on Liverpool's part? There is every chance that Aspas will go the same way and be loaned out next season (Swansea City would seem a likely destination) - when does this merry-go-round end?

Form Is Temporary...

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And then, as it normally tends to do, class revealed its permanence. Better team with better players wins football match is not a particularly insightful epithet, but the quality of City's two goals within two minutes of each other made so apparent the gulf in individual class.

Toure was anonymous before the break, but seems to constantly retain that ability to suddenly decide, 'Right that's quite enough of this, chaps" before grabbing a match by the scruff of its neck. Often that is represented in a driving run from midfield, but against Sunderland it was of a more spectacular nature. Vito Mannone may have declined to attempt a full-length dive, but it merely appeared a reasonable effort-saving measure.

Samir Nasri's drilled half volley was no less wonderful, requiring the type of technique that usually makes even professional players look foolish. It was reported this week that City are intending to offer the Frenchman an extension to his contract, and his Man of the Match performance could not have been better timed. Is there a more improved Premier League player from last season to this?

Dzeko Now Barred From Last Chance Saloon

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It has been debated whether Edin Dzeko's poor form has meant that City could look to replace him this summer. Having scored half of his goals in victories by five or more clear goals, it seemed that Dzeko's goals presented something of a false case for the defence.

Before the League Cup final, Dzeko had three shots on target in five matches, from a total of 25 shots. After the League Cup final, Dzeko has had three shots on target in six matches, from a total of 25 shots. No shots even attempted all match as the Bosnian turned in another toothless display - he gave away the ball on almost half of the occasions he attempted a pass.

City are a club with too many resources to carry any of the players within their 25-man squad limit imposed by the Premier League, and Dzeko can simply not be relied on in situations when City need him most. A last chance may well have expired.



Yet another bitter journo, I would want Sunderland to get praise for their performance, however, the media these days are trying to find ways to belittle us if we dont win by a cricket score. It really pisses me off. I thought Demichelis was alright yesterday on the whole and did NOT deserve to be targeted like ha has been. JUSTICE FOR THE 26
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Re: Is the media finally turning??

Postby Blue Since 76 » Mon Mar 03, 2014 2:31 pm

Wonderwall wrote:and NO again, this is Sky Sports little article

Yet another bitter journo, I would want Sunderland to get praise for their performance, however, the media these days are trying to find ways to belittle us if we dont win by a cricket score. It really pisses me off. I thought Demichelis was alright yesterday on the whole and did NOT deserve to be targeted like ha has been. JUSTICE FOR THE 26


Ignore the money (which isn't mentioned apart from Liverpool's spending) and it was a top of table vs bottom of table clash. Why wouldn't anyone expect the top of table to win? I suspect similar was written about Liverpool struggling past Cardiff and Arsenal would have been hammered for losing to Birmingham.

Demechelis made a couple of big mistakes, one leading to the goal which was compounded by Kompany's error and most of the above picks up the defensive line taken, which was odd, and the selection of the left side of defence which I raised with my dad as soon as the side was announced - it was obvious where we were weak.

Seems a perfectly reasonable article to me
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Re: Is the media finally turning??

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Mon Mar 03, 2014 2:34 pm

I thought Sky were horribly biased, but i'm surprised by how many are surprised by it.

They were always going to be. It was a classic David v Goliath encounter, EVERYONE (except the Barcodes) wanted the underdog to win. Let's face it, we would if it was Chelsea/Arsenal/Liverpool instead of us.

It's obvious what Sky wanted to do, they wanted to big up the cup, give a name to it. Too often the Carling cup is not given the respect it deserves and is often seen as an inconvenience rather than a chance of glory.
Seeing 'little Sunderland' overcome 'moneybags City' would have been HUGE and really given the cup a bigger name and inspired managers to take it more seriously, at least that's what they were hoping.
As it happens it was a great game anyway and did a lot for the cup.

Now we're so good and one of the top teams, everyone wants the other team to win. Everyone loves an underdog, it's the way of life.
By bigging up the underdogs, it makes it more attractive for the neutral.

It sucks for us, but it's a price of success which I'm more than happy to pay.
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Re: Is the media finally turning??

Postby john@staustell » Mon Mar 03, 2014 2:39 pm

Bridge'srightfoot wrote:I thought Sky were horribly biased, but i'm surprised by how many are surprised by it.

They were always going to be. It was a classic David v Goliath encounter, EVERYONE (except the Barcodes) wanted the underdog to win. Let's face it, we would if it was Chelsea/Arsenal/Liverpool instead of us.

It's obvious what Sky wanted to do, they wanted to big up the cup, give a name to it. Too often the Carling cup is not given the respect it deserves and is often seen as an inconvenience rather than a chance of glory.
Seeing 'little Sunderland' overcome 'moneybags City' would have been HUGE and really given the cup a bigger name and inspired managers to take it more seriously, at least that's what they were hoping.
As it happens it was a great game anyway and did a lot for the cup.

Now we're so good and one of the top teams, everyone wants the other team to win. Everyone loves an underdog, it's the way of life.
By bigging up the underdogs, it makes it more attractive for the neutral.

It sucks for us, but it's a price of success which I'm more than happy to pay.



SSN 6am this morning:

1st article: Carson Yeung is found guilty
2nd article: Pardew (which I thought happened Saturday)
3rd article: City win cup

Do you honestly really think that if Shrek had scored that Yaya goal they wouldn't be screaming it on SSN as the main headline? Of course they would. Total anti-City bias.
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Re: Is the media finally turning??

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Mon Mar 03, 2014 2:45 pm

john@staustell wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:I thought Sky were horribly biased, but i'm surprised by how many are surprised by it.

They were always going to be. It was a classic David v Goliath encounter, EVERYONE (except the Barcodes) wanted the underdog to win. Let's face it, we would if it was Chelsea/Arsenal/Liverpool instead of us.

It's obvious what Sky wanted to do, they wanted to big up the cup, give a name to it. Too often the Carling cup is not given the respect it deserves and is often seen as an inconvenience rather than a chance of glory.
Seeing 'little Sunderland' overcome 'moneybags City' would have been HUGE and really given the cup a bigger name and inspired managers to take it more seriously, at least that's what they were hoping.
As it happens it was a great game anyway and did a lot for the cup.

Now we're so good and one of the top teams, everyone wants the other team to win. Everyone loves an underdog, it's the way of life.
By bigging up the underdogs, it makes it more attractive for the neutral.

It sucks for us, but it's a price of success which I'm more than happy to pay.



SSN 6am this morning:

1st article: Carson Yeung is found guilty
2nd article: Pardew (which I thought happened Saturday)
3rd article: City win cup

Do you honestly really think that if Shrek had scored that Yaya goal they wouldn't be screaming it on SSN as the main headline? Of course they would. Total anti-City bias.

Probably so. But again- not surprising. I think it''s more 'pro rag' than it is 'anti city
I think Beefy posted a stat a while ago saying that Rags v Crawley was watched by more people than Arsenal v Barcelona three days later.
Rags have trillions of 'fans'.
They play to their audience. From a business point of view, it makes sense doesn't it? It explains why the last 500 Rag FA Cup games have been televised.
It sucks, but we won a trophy and I'm too happy to get annoyed about it.
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Re: Is the media finally turning??

Postby Hutch's Shoulder » Mon Mar 03, 2014 3:06 pm

Sunderland did fine, but a lot of reports seem to be making them out to be better than I thought they were. Other than their goal and a couple of corners I didn't see much first half threat to be honest. And even the goal was as much of our making as theirs.

By and large it was as expected: defend as a team and see what they can get on the breakaway. They did it well, but some reports make them sound dominant when they weren't.
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Re: Is the media finally turning??

Postby Florida Blue » Mon Mar 03, 2014 3:18 pm

guv111 wrote:
Manuel Pellegrini appears to think he manages Manchester United


http://www.theguardian.com/football/201 ... ed-manager

No.


In fairness to Manuel, we played like the Rags in the first half.
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Re: Is the media finally turning??

Postby lets all have a disco » Mon Mar 03, 2014 3:18 pm

Maybe the media knobheads should watch this and then tell us it meant more to Sunderland that it did to us.

http://www.mcfc.com/citytv/Features/201 ... ic-montage

Basically they are talking complete utter bollocks.
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Re: Is the media finally turning??

Postby Bianchi on Ice » Mon Mar 10, 2014 9:26 am

Its been a bit dry for them recently but the rocks under which they dwell have been disturbed...and you dont even have to search if your sense of smell is good enough
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