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Re: Can Txiki pull this off ?

Postby Dameerto » Tue Aug 12, 2014 7:18 am

Bridge'srightfoot wrote: he's not known for his pace correct but quite a few times for us he's surprised everyone with a burst of acceleration that you wouldn't expect. Watch his part in our goal in the 1-0 league cup game a few years back at the Emirates. I remember similar runs against Liverpool and the rags that season. He really can motor at times. He's not so quick off the mark but at top speed I reckon he would outpace kolarov, clichy(not as quick as he once was) and Zab, quite easily too. Only Richards ( who's going anyway) and Sagna would beat him outright for pace. I'm not sure about chambers, haven't seen him play too much but he shouldn't be written off for being outpaced by dzeko once in one of his first matches.


Watch the community shield match again and you will see you have just described the incident. So you have spent two posts agreeing with me while trying to argue against my point.
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Re: Can Txiki pull this off ?

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Tue Aug 12, 2014 8:31 am

Dameerto wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote: he's not known for his pace correct but quite a few times for us he's surprised everyone with a burst of acceleration that you wouldn't expect. Watch his part in our goal in the 1-0 league cup game a few years back at the Emirates. I remember similar runs against Liverpool and the rags that season. He really can motor at times. He's not so quick off the mark but at top speed I reckon he would outpace kolarov, clichy(not as quick as he once was) and Zab, quite easily too. Only Richards ( who's going anyway) and Sagna would beat him outright for pace. I'm not sure about chambers, haven't seen him play too much but he shouldn't be written off for being outpaced by dzeko once in one of his first matches.


Watch the community shield match again and you will see you have just described the incident. So you have spent two posts agreeing with me while trying to argue against my point.

Not at all, that was a longer sprint for the ball, which he's good at. In the same way toure isn't the quickest off the mark but once he gets going he's rapid.
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Re: Can Txiki pull this off ?

Postby Goaters 103 » Tue Aug 12, 2014 8:32 am

Ted Hughes wrote:Barry reportedly 2 mil, Rodwell 10 mil, Garcia 12.5 mil, Nastasic 12 mil, Richards 5 mil, Guidetti 4 mil Sinclair 2 mil.

Total: 47.5 million quid.

City's transfer spend= fuck all.


Hopefully yes Ted. However £5m might be a bit too much for Richards, given that when he trotted on at Wembley he looked like he'd spent his summer in Nando's; that cameo probably took even more off his valuation.

Id also be flogging Reikik or Boyata than Nastasic, but we'll see.
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Re: Can Txiki pull this off ?

Postby Ted Hughes » Tue Aug 12, 2014 9:30 am

Goaters 103 wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:Barry reportedly 2 mil, Rodwell 10 mil, Garcia 12.5 mil, Nastasic 12 mil, Richards 5 mil, Guidetti 4 mil Sinclair 2 mil.

Total: 47.5 million quid.

City's transfer spend= fuck all.


Hopefully yes Ted. However £5m might be a bot too much for Richards, given that when he trotted on at Wembley he looked like he'd spent his summer in Nando's; that cameo probably took even more off his valuation.

Id also be flogging Reikik or Boyata than Nastasic, but we'll see.


I'd probably agree with you if there were offers for those two. I can't agree that £5 mil is too much for Richards, we paid 3 mil for Richard Dunne in 2000 when he was a fat pisshead.

I'm not picking out the players to sell, I'm just quoting the players the press have told us (on numerous occasions) that we are selling, & the kind of price they suggest we are selling them for.

If the stories are true, then we would actually have recouped pretty much our whole transfer budget & then have leeway to spend almost 50 million quid on a player now or in January if we wished. That would be some trick by Txiki.
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Re: Can Txiki pull this off ?

Postby blues2win » Tue Aug 12, 2014 9:46 am

Would love Di Maria if we decide to spend big on one more purchase. He's apparently available and better than Navas in my opinion. Plays on the left and has bags of pace. However, Txiki and Pellers may prefer a war chest for January in case of a bad injury.
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Re: Can Txiki pull this off ?

Postby Ted Hughes » Tue Aug 12, 2014 9:51 am

blues2win wrote:Would love Di Maria if we decide to spend big on one more purchase. He's apparently available and better than Navas in my opinion. Plays on the left and has bags of pace. However, Txiki and Pellers may prefer a war chest for January in case of a bad injury.


Or just to keep it for when the sanctions run out, & add it to future profits, then outbid the rags etc again for all the top targets.
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Re: Can Txiki pull this off ?

Postby Slim » Tue Aug 12, 2014 9:52 am

Di Maria would take a season getting used to the physicality of the league(has a tendency to go down easy), but he is a hell of a talent.

Are we assuming Real want rid?
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Re: Can Txiki pull this off ?

Postby Mikhail Chigorin » Tue Aug 12, 2014 9:54 am

blues2win wrote:Would love Di Maria if we decide to spend big on one more purchase. He's apparently available and better than Navas in my opinion. Plays on the left and has bags of pace. However, Txiki and Pellers may prefer a war chest for January in case of a bad injury.


On the wireless yesterday, they were saying that The Scum are wanting Di Maria and that he would cost in the region of £30million.

It would be rather nice to snap him up quickly ourselves and leave them bewildered as to what had happened.
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Re: Can Txiki pull this off ?

Postby Ted Hughes » Tue Aug 12, 2014 10:12 am

The point is; we would have to sell all these players first.

So unless/ until they actually leave, we can't sign a player for that kind of money.
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Re: Can Txiki pull this off ?

Postby Goaters 103 » Tue Aug 12, 2014 10:45 am

Ted Hughes wrote:
Goaters 103 wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:Barry reportedly 2 mil, Rodwell 10 mil, Garcia 12.5 mil, Nastasic 12 mil, Richards 5 mil, Guidetti 4 mil Sinclair 2 mil.

Total: 47.5 million quid.

City's transfer spend= fuck all.


Hopefully yes Ted. However £5m might be a bot too much for Richards, given that when he trotted on at Wembley he looked like he'd spent his summer in Nando's; that cameo probably took even more off his valuation.

Id also be flogging Reikik or Boyata than Nastasic, but we'll see.


I'd probably agree with you if there were offers for those two. I can't agree that £5 mil is too much for Richards, we paid 3 mil for Richard Dunne in 2000 when he was a fat pisshead.

I'm not picking out the players to sell, I'm just quoting the players the press have told us (on numerous occasions) that we are selling, & the kind of price they suggest we are selling them for.

If the stories are true, then we would actually have recouped pretty much our whole transfer budget & then have leeway to spend almost 50 million quid on a player now or in January if we wished. That would be some trick by Txiki.


Dunney isn't a great comparison though Ted, as Richards has 1 year left on his contract and walks for nowt next year. In addition Dunne was sought after by City as a buyer, whereas we can barely give Richards away and his value dwindles with every appearance.

I do hope those figures are right though. Getting £10.5m for Rodwell was excellent business - he was either injured or just not good enough, despite what he thinks - whilst £12.5m for Garcia is outstanding, given the guy is totally unsuited to The English Prem. Guidetti will never make it at City - hes a modern day Bojinov with a big reputation though he has never actually done anything - whilst the Barry fee was a welcome bonus.

Given we need to shift players out now, if we can recoup most of what we've pent it will represent good business. It will also fuel rumours that we would go back in for Isco in the press later this month. Whether that ha any truth in it, we will see.
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Re: Can Txiki pull this off ?

Postby Ted Hughes » Tue Aug 12, 2014 10:54 am

Goaters 103 wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
Goaters 103 wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:Barry reportedly 2 mil, Rodwell 10 mil, Garcia 12.5 mil, Nastasic 12 mil, Richards 5 mil, Guidetti 4 mil Sinclair 2 mil.

Total: 47.5 million quid.

City's transfer spend= fuck all.


Hopefully yes Ted. However £5m might be a bot too much for Richards, given that when he trotted on at Wembley he looked like he'd spent his summer in Nando's; that cameo probably took even more off his valuation.

Id also be flogging Reikik or Boyata than Nastasic, but we'll see.


I'd probably agree with you if there were offers for those two. I can't agree that £5 mil is too much for Richards, we paid 3 mil for Richard Dunne in 2000 when he was a fat pisshead.

I'm not picking out the players to sell, I'm just quoting the players the press have told us (on numerous occasions) that we are selling, & the kind of price they suggest we are selling them for.

If the stories are true, then we would actually have recouped pretty much our whole transfer budget & then have leeway to spend almost 50 million quid on a player now or in January if we wished. That would be some trick by Txiki.


Dunney isn't a great comparison though Ted, as Richards has 1 year left on his contract and walks for nowt next year. In addition Dunne was sought after by City as a buyer, whereas we can barely give Richards away and his value dwindles with every appearance.

I do hope those figures are right though. Getting £10.5m for Rodwell was excellent business - he was either injured or just not good enough, despite what he thinks - whilst £12.5m for Garcia is outstanding, given the guy is totally unsuited to The English Prem. Guidetti will never make it at City - hes a modern day Bojinov with a big reputation though he has never actually done anything - whilst the Barry fee was a welcome bonus.

Given we need to shift players out now, if we can recoup most of what we've pent it will represent good business. It will also fuel rumours that we would go back in for Isco in the press later this month. Whether that ha any truth in it, we will see.


I doubt it's true that we 'can't give Richards away'. It's more likely he is fussy about where he goes as he knows himself that he is a free agent next season. In a few months, he can negotiate his own deal for next season, then even possibly go on loan there for a few months after Jan.

Big decision.
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Re: Can Txiki pull this off ?

Postby DoomMerchant » Tue Aug 12, 2014 1:40 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:
Goaters 103 wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
Goaters 103 wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:Barry reportedly 2 mil, Rodwell 10 mil, Garcia 12.5 mil, Nastasic 12 mil, Richards 5 mil, Guidetti 4 mil Sinclair 2 mil.

Total: 47.5 million quid.

City's transfer spend= fuck all.


Hopefully yes Ted. However £5m might be a bot too much for Richards, given that when he trotted on at Wembley he looked like he'd spent his summer in Nando's; that cameo probably took even more off his valuation.

Id also be flogging Reikik or Boyata than Nastasic, but we'll see.


I'd probably agree with you if there were offers for those two. I can't agree that £5 mil is too much for Richards, we paid 3 mil for Richard Dunne in 2000 when he was a fat pisshead.

I'm not picking out the players to sell, I'm just quoting the players the press have told us (on numerous occasions) that we are selling, & the kind of price they suggest we are selling them for.

If the stories are true, then we would actually have recouped pretty much our whole transfer budget & then have leeway to spend almost 50 million quid on a player now or in January if we wished. That would be some trick by Txiki.


Dunney isn't a great comparison though Ted, as Richards has 1 year left on his contract and walks for nowt next year. In addition Dunne was sought after by City as a buyer, whereas we can barely give Richards away and his value dwindles with every appearance.

I do hope those figures are right though. Getting £10.5m for Rodwell was excellent business - he was either injured or just not good enough, despite what he thinks - whilst £12.5m for Garcia is outstanding, given the guy is totally unsuited to The English Prem. Guidetti will never make it at City - hes a modern day Bojinov with a big reputation though he has never actually done anything - whilst the Barry fee was a welcome bonus.

Given we need to shift players out now, if we can recoup most of what we've pent it will represent good business. It will also fuel rumours that we would go back in for Isco in the press later this month. Whether that ha any truth in it, we will see.


I doubt it's true that we 'can't give Richards away'. It's more likely he is fussy about where he goes as he knows himself that he is a free agent next season. In a few months, he can negotiate his own deal for next season, then even possibly go on loan there for a few months after Jan.

Big decision.


a decision which he owns 100% of as you know. No reason for him to move to a potentially half-assed or shit team and limit his options....he can play the long game and sit around, train, and see what's what in Jan.

if i were him a move to Spurs or Everton would be what i wanted. That's about his level if he can get a season under his belt to get his legs under him. A top guy. Hope he gets what he wants.

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Re: Can Txiki pull this off ?

Postby Ted Hughes » Tue Aug 12, 2014 2:26 pm

So do I.

I hope he has a great 2nd half of his career, unless he signs for Liverpool in which case I hope he has to move on again because the club goes bankrupt & can't pay his wages.
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Re: Can Txiki pull this off ?

Postby Goaters 103 » Tue Aug 12, 2014 3:21 pm

As a player I think Micah is a busted flush and his best days have gone.

If he gets a move to Everton or Spurs and also gets in their team, he will have done outstandingly well. Don't get me wrong, I wish him well but his decline in the past 2 seasons has been quite startling. Injuries have also been a factor - he always seems to have a knock of some kind - and he now looks like hes carrying a stone too much, and has got significantly slower as a result.

Good luck to the fella. Unless the debt was settled a while ago, that pile of cash Oldham were waiting on in terms of a % of a sell-on fee, could turn into a huge heap of sweet fa.
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Re: Can Txiki pull this off ?

Postby getdressedmctavish » Tue Aug 12, 2014 9:19 pm

Difficult to believe watching him that he was once talked about as a £20 mill player. But football is a funny game, all about confidence and getting into a groove. Its not that long since Spurs couldn't find a place for Bale.Look how Henderson has come good..For me the most important thing for Micah is to knuckle down to perfecting what he's got, getting in the right positions, kerbing his forward runs cos he'll never be a good enough crosser and STOP MAKING LUDICROUS TACKLES AND JUMPS AND INJURING YOUR FUCKING SELF. If he became a student of the game rather than of the life he could still make it. My guess is he needs a coach to invest some time in him. For that to happen, he needs to be fit.
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Re: Can Txiki pull this off ?

Postby Slim » Wed Aug 13, 2014 1:23 am

getdressedmctavish wrote:Difficult to believe watching him that he was once talked about as a £20 mill player. But football is a funny game, all about confidence and getting into a groove. Its not that long since Spurs couldn't find a place for Bale.Look how Henderson has come good..For me the most important thing for Micah is to knuckle down to perfecting what he's got, getting in the right positions, kerbing his forward runs cos he'll never be a good enough crosser and STOP MAKING LUDICROUS TACKLES AND JUMPS AND INJURING YOUR FUCKING SELF. If he became a student of the game rather than of the life he could still make it. My guess is he needs a coach to invest some time in him. For that to happen, he needs to be fit.


Spurs were ready to sell Bale to Birmingham for £3M, but Birmingham backed out.

Henderson still has some way to justifying his £20M pricetag, but last season was a huge improvement.
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Re: Can Txiki pull this off ?

Postby Saul Goodman » Wed Aug 13, 2014 5:02 pm

Pellegrini says the squad is too big and pin-pointed Guidetti and Sinclair as two that might be sold/loaned
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Re: Can Txiki pull this off ?

Postby JamieMCFC » Thu Aug 14, 2014 1:51 pm

getdressedmctavish wrote:Difficult to believe watching him that he was once talked about as a £20 mill player. But football is a funny game, all about confidence and getting into a groove. Its not that long since Spurs couldn't find a place for Bale.Look how Henderson has come good..For me the most important thing for Micah is to knuckle down to perfecting what he's got, getting in the right positions, kerbing his forward runs cos he'll never be a good enough crosser and STOP MAKING LUDICROUS TACKLES AND JUMPS AND INJURING YOUR FUCKING SELF. If he became a student of the game rather than of the life he could still make it. My guess is he needs a coach to invest some time in him. For that to happen, he needs to be fit.


I wonder if the injury problems are because of all of the muscle he has. I will have to find it but read a study from a few years ago that said you are seeing more injuries in sports because athletes are able to train longer and more intense because of supplements (both legal and banned) that they are able to take. Because of this their bodies break down more easily.
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Re: Can Txiki pull this off ?

Postby PrezIke » Thu Aug 14, 2014 3:04 pm

Saul Goodman wrote:Pellegrini says the squad is too big and pin-pointed Guidetti and Sinclair as two that might be sold/loaned


sky also reporting sinclair is aware he may have to leave.

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news ... ester-city

"Personally I'm just looking to play as many games as possible - I don't know what the future holds," said Sinclair. "If the manager is going to give me game time, then I would love to stay.

"But if that's not the case I'm sure I'll have to go elsewhere and to play more...

"As long as I get on and I'm trying to get the minutes, I can only do so well when I get my chance."


we all know he's not going to get any real time on the pitch here, even as a substitute (assuming we will still place our world cup returning stars as the substitutes).

it's really just a matter of time one would think.

we still need to drop one foreign player from the squad to meet the requirements.

funny how we mostly have suspected it would be nasti, but our defence will be at great risk without him as a backup, and given the need for fitness from komps and mangala.

i think we wait until close to the end of the window, or at least until players regain fitness.
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