Did Bellamy throw a tantrum?

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Re: Did Bellamy throw a tantrum?

Postby dario2739 » Wed Dec 23, 2009 9:51 pm

First of all, i've been along (a couple of months back) to a couple of training sessions - the first time I went along they were doing a double session... yes under Hughes!!! They were on their lunch in the middle of the sessions, so didn't hang around to watch.
I went down the next day and met Mr. Higginbottom himself, and as he said earlier - Bellamy was training the same as everyone else.
Also - bearing in mind the obvious homework Mancini seems to have done on Stoke already, I find it hard to believe that he knew nothing of Bellamy's knee problem or any special training schedule he may have. So all in all this story just strikes me as a load of made up, red-top bollocks - they've just targetted the 'most likely' candidate in Bellers because he's got a bit of history. W@nkers
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Re: Did Bellamy throw a tantrum?

Postby john68 » Thu Dec 24, 2009 3:57 am

Going back in time Socs, when you 1st posted this bullying nonsense. It was unsubstantiated rubbish then that you instigated. It was sheer conjecture that you manufactured by putting two and two together and making anything but four.
It was stupidly siezed on then by others, treated as truth to suit their agenda.
It was garbage then...It is garbage now.

For the record, I had a long journey in the cab with Hughes while he played for the rags. Until that time, I had considered him an animal. I was suprised to find him a softly spoken, affable person, very patient with my City v the rags banter. Certainly not what I expected.
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Re: Did Bellamy throw a tantrum?

Postby Slim » Thu Dec 24, 2009 5:35 am

john68 wrote:Going back in time Socs, when you 1st posted this bullying nonsense. It was unsubstantiated rubbish then that you instigated. It was sheer conjecture that you manufactured by putting two and two together and making anything but four.
It was stupidly siezed on then by others, treated as truth to suit their agenda.
It was garbage then...It is garbage now.

For the record, I had a long journey in the cab with Hughes while he played for the rags. Until that time, I had considered him an animal. I was suprised to find him a softly spoken, affable person, very patient with my City v the rags banter. Certainly not what I expected.


Going back in time John, when you 1st posted this double session double standard nonsense. It was unsubstantiated nonsense that the newspapers instigated. It was sheer conjecture that you used to have a go at anyone who wasn't a fan of Hughes and by putting two and two together you have made the newspapers day and not sure what number that comes up with.
It was stupidly seized(spelt correctly) on then by no others, which should give you a clue, but you certainly used it to suit your agenda.
Garbage now...It is typical john68 now.
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Re: Did Bellamy throw a tantrum?

Postby john68 » Thu Dec 24, 2009 12:08 pm

Slim,
I ceased to care what your opinion was a long time ago.
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Re: Did Bellamy throw a tantrum?

Postby john@staustell » Thu Dec 24, 2009 1:01 pm

dario2739 wrote:First of all, i've been along (a couple of months back) to a couple of training sessions - the first time I went along they were doing a double session... yes under Hughes!!! They were on their lunch in the middle of the sessions, so didn't hang around to watch.
I went down the next day and met Mr. Higginbottom himself, and as he said earlier - Bellamy was training the same as everyone else.
Also - bearing in mind the obvious homework Mancini seems to have done on Stoke already, I find it hard to believe that he knew nothing of Bellamy's knee problem or any special training schedule he may have. So all in all this story just strikes me as a load of made up, red-top bollocks - they've just targetted the 'most likely' candidate in Bellers because he's got a bit of history. W@nkers


My thoughts too Dario. You'd think someone would mention it along the line.
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Re: Did Bellamy throw a tantrum?

Postby Blue Toy » Thu Dec 24, 2009 1:08 pm

Hughes is gone, time to 'reboot' everyone and move on.
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Re: Did Bellamy throw a tantrum?

Postby dick dastardley » Thu Dec 24, 2009 1:40 pm

i can tell you all now that bellers certainly threw a tantrum in the tunnel after the game and in the dressing room, he didint go to the chairmans office because he was so hyped up, he left it to toure and given to say what they did
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Re: Did Bellamy throw a tantrum?

Postby Fidel Castro » Thu Dec 24, 2009 2:05 pm

dick dastardley wrote:i can tell you all now that bellers certainly threw a tantrum in the tunnel after the game and in the dressing room, he didint go to the chairmans office because he was so hyped up, he left it to toure and given to say what they did


How do you know this?
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Re: Did Bellamy throw a tantrum?

Postby Slim » Thu Dec 24, 2009 2:40 pm

john68 wrote:Slim,
I ceased to care what your opinion was a long time ago.


I just don't know how I'd go on if I thought you were serious.
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Re: Did Bellamy throw a tantrum?

Postby Dronny » Thu Dec 24, 2009 6:51 pm

Back to topic, I was hugely gutted to hear about the press conjecture about Twitch sniffing around Beller's. Words fail me if we sold Beller's when he's playing so well, I lurve the little Welsh abrasive magician :-(
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Re: Did Bellamy throw a tantrum?

Postby dick dastardley » Thu Dec 24, 2009 7:23 pm

Fidel Castro wrote:
dick dastardley wrote:i can tell you all now that bellers certainly threw a tantrum in the tunnel after the game and in the dressing room, he didint go to the chairmans office because he was so hyped up, he left it to toure and given to say what they did


How do you know this?



because i know someone who was actually in the tunnel at the time and around the dressing room!!!
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Re: Did Bellamy throw a tantrum?

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Thu Dec 24, 2009 7:38 pm

Blue Toy wrote:Hughes is gone, time to 'reboot' everyone and move on.


amen to that.
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Re: Did Bellamy throw a tantrum?

Postby shawzy » Thu Dec 24, 2009 8:01 pm

After watchin Twitchy on SSN applauding how good Bellers is,its obvious he wants him at Spuds.
Its a natural reaction that Bellers would be unhappy with the way MH was sacked.He's not played better under any other manager has he? I cannot believe Craig would want to take it one step further and ask for a transfer..He must look at the club and fans as a whole and how much hes been wanted since he came here.
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Re: Did Bellamy throw a tantrum?

Postby Dronny » Thu Dec 24, 2009 10:07 pm

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Blue Toy wrote:Hughes is gone, time to 'reboot' everyone and move on.


amen to that.


Thank fucl no-one still craps on about Sven
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Re: Did Bellamy throw a tantrum?

Postby mcfc1632 » Fri Dec 25, 2009 3:25 am

irblinx wrote:
john68 wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
john68 wrote:Antti,
I see a lot of differences regarding how you accept Mr mancini, as opposed to Hughes. Now that Mancicni imposes a double training session on a players dodgy knee...it's ok. When Hughes did similar with fully fit players, he was "BULYING HIS SLAVES".
Come on Antti...let's have a bit of equity here.

The double standards are pitiful.


We are doing double sessions because he has only precious few days to try and get his message through to squad. Before both seasons he was in charge, Hughes had all summer. I don't think double sessions will be any sort of standard in future.


The point I am making is the your accusation of "BULLYING" quite early last season, you were quick to jump on Hughes. Now we have a manager who makes a player with a "known" injury train beyond his capabilities. Mancini would have been well aware of this, but your attitude is totally different mate...I wonder why?

The reality is that this may just be bollox but your attitude to the thought of this happening, is supportive compared to the antagonism you showed to Hughes....again can we have some equity.
You always stated your opposition to Hughes was fair...Mmmmmmmm!!!!!


John I find myself in the unhappy situation of disagreeing with you again :o) Antti clearly states the reason why he isn't having a go about us doing double sessions, I'm sure that he'll adjust his opinion if its still happening in a month.

As you rightly point out though, the reality is that this is very likely just press bollox in any case.

Hack Journo 1 "so we need to make up more stories about Cidee today"
Hack Journo 2 "Easy, Bellamy, RSC and Given were all pally with Hughes, just make something up about them in training, no other reporters can contradict us cos no-one is allowed in"



I think the point John is quite rightly making is:

that irrespective of whether a report is factual or lazy journalism - some posters on here jumped on it to ridicule the manager of our club - supported by our owner - for personal agendas

now we see double standards / inconsistency.

I think that John is just tweaking NQDP's tail as he will have known before that the previous attitude was just part of the '...take every opportunity to slag off Hughes campaign' and therefore will not be surprised that now he has gone consistency is not applied

Anyway - Hughes is our ex-manager and Mancini is now the new manager - supported by our owner - so '....forward with Roberto!!!' for me - and merry xmas to all

(BTW - I notice that John is consistent in the way that he supports the club's manager)
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Re: Did Bellamy throw a tantrum?

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Fri Dec 25, 2009 7:37 am

Spoken like a true Hughes lover. And to my recollection you even claimed to be on the fence. Ridiculous.

We have a new manager now. No need to bring that nasty rag into every argument.
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Re: Did Bellamy throw a tantrum?

Postby Dronny » Fri Dec 25, 2009 7:49 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Spoken like a true Hughes lover. And to my recollection you even claimed to be on the fence. Ridiculous.

We have a new manager now. No need to bring that nasty rag into every argument.


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Re: Did Bellamy throw a tantrum?

Postby Im_Spartacus » Sat Dec 26, 2009 11:37 am

john68 wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
john68 wrote:Antti,
I see a lot of differences regarding how you accept Mr mancini, as opposed to Hughes. Now that Mancicni imposes a double training session on a players dodgy knee...it's ok. When Hughes did similar with fully fit players, he was "BULYING HIS SLAVES".
Come on Antti...let's have a bit of equity here.

The double standards are pitiful.


We are doing double sessions because he has only precious few days to try and get his message through to squad. Before both seasons he was in charge, Hughes had all summer. I don't think double sessions will be any sort of standard in future.


The point I am making is the your accusation of "BULLYING" quite early last season, you were quick to jump on Hughes. Now we have a manager who makes a player with a "known" injury train beyond his capabilities. Mancini would have been well aware of this, but your attitude is totally different mate...I wonder why?

The reality is that this may just be bollox but your attitude to the thought of this happening, is supportive compared to the antagonism you showed to Hughes....again can we have some equity.
You always stated your opposition to Hughes was fair...Mmmmmmmm!!!!!


I thought the bullying accusations were because of Hughes treatment of Elano, I might be wrong but I dont remember any accusations relating to training
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