Plan B (Without Kun)

[Piccsnumberoneblue]

I really want us to leave the way clear for nacho to come in rather than clog things up with a short term fix.
If he does what we hope he will, we could have four very fine and different strikers

[jono1978]

Can we not take David Villa on loan in Jan like we did with Lampard?

Now this would be the best option IMHO

[Wooders]

Just thinking about how much I am going to enjoy arsenes reaction if that happens

[john@staustell]

Can we not take David Villa on loan in Jan like we did with Lampard?

Now this would be the best option IMHO

I thought that.

But the PL games we have if we cant beat them with the players we have we wouldn't deserve to win the League tbh.

[Ted Hughes]

Can we not take David Villa on loan in Jan like we did with Lampard?

no way nycfc let's villa go on loan then when they are already publicly stating they want lampard back when his loan is finished.

We own them.

this is understood, but of course we are aware co-owned is not the same as owned. the other owners (the yankees) have their own agenda, even if city is generally on board with their plan. villa and lampard are their best players, easily. as we also know this is the inaugural season for the club. i'd gather they want them to be well acquainted with things there to start the mls season to make a splash as much as possible.

the rumours about lampard staying with us longer, i believe, has been partially about nycfc being able to conduct pre-season training in manchester. that is a few weeks maximum i believe.

mls preseason training is usually at the end of january into mid/late february.

difficult to see such a move as plausible after that. maybe villa joins for a short spell, but not past january. somehow i doubt it as it could make us look bad. hope i am wrong as we could probably use him.

We have to be polite & consider the politics of course, but if City felt they desperately needed Villa, they would get him. I doubt the Yankees are paying much of his wages. But of course they wouldn't keep both him & Lampard all season. In Villa's case it would only be a very short term thing, like in Australia. If Serge is back in 6 weeks, then we don't need him anyhow. But it looks like Villa is going to be swanning around City's training ground for a while with the NYC players, so they may just use him anyway.

Fwank is a different matter. If City really feel he is too big a loss, they will keep him til the end of the season. Obviously they would like him to start the season with NY but needs must. They will weigh it up. When he does get there, he will be very sharp so they get the benefit of that.

I would keep Fwank, & then if we can get a permit for Kelechi, I would also bring back Devante Cole & I'd be happy with that.

I've no interest in Benteke whatsoever.

[PeterParker]

I've no interest in Benteke whatsoever.

Plus, if might add, Benteke came back after a 6-7 months when he was injured.

[blues2win]

Benteke will be relieved to hear you have absolutely no interest in him Ted! As far as I know Benteke has no interest in you. Let's hope Kun comes back quickly making all this moot. However, if he's out for the season the Club will be into the market for a striker. The idea that they would give up on the League title by relying on 2 strikers one of whom has a poor injury record is silly.

[Clowncrete]

It will all depend of how much will Sergio be out, but sooner than later, we need to buy a new striker.

Bony and Benteke are not solutions imho, they are B players, we need a striker to play alongside Sergio for the next season. Jojo is that man, but he will never be fit to play in those games, week in week out.

There is only one striker out there that will be perfect for our squad: Gonzalo Higuain. But to buy the argie, we need to invest and with the FFP, the chances of that happening now are beyond slim.

So plan B is simple: Pozo.

Higuain is a bottler.

Higuain, no thanks no improvement on dzeko.

2007–2013 Real Madrid 190 (107)
2013– Napoli 44 (24)

Does this look like a flop? Now imagine him with a fit Sergio.

He is a bottler who went missing in many of Real's CL knockout and el clasico ties. Statistics are b*ll*x. Even Mario Gomez has extraordinary stats, he is an average player.

[Ted Hughes]

Benteke will be relieved to hear you have absolutely no interest in him Ted! As far as I know Benteke has no interest in you. Let's hope Kun comes back quickly making all this moot. However, if he's out for the season the Club will be into the market for a striker. The idea that they would give up on the League title by relying on 2 strikers one of whom has a poor injury record is silly.

They wouldn't just have 2 strikers if Kelechi got a permit & they brought back Cole, they would have 4, plus Pozo, maybe even Ambrose, Yaya could step up & Villa may be available til March on loan.

They've let that plastic headed cunt make his politiical speech at the CFA, I expect a work permit for Iheanacho on its way, if it's not there already. I would much rather have Kelechi than most strikers we could realistically sign in Jan, including Benteke.

[JamieMCFC]

We don't 'own them' - our owners own a majority share in them and own us.

Wrong. Manchester City Football Group, own them.

Note the words 'Manchester City' in the title.

I'm talking bollocks there it's 'City' but it's the same thing. It's City who are running this, not an outside operation.

Technically you are both wrong. NYCFC are owned by by the league. When City paid the expansion fee they were buying shares in the league and City was made operator of NYCFC. The contracts players sign are with the league and not the individual clubs.

[Ted Hughes]

We don't 'own them' - our owners own a majority share in them and own us.

Wrong. Manchester City Football Group, own them.

Note the words 'Manchester City' in the title.

I'm talking bollocks there it's 'City' but it's the same thing. It's City who are running this, not an outside operation.

Technically you are both wrong. NYCFC are owned by by the league. When City paid the expansion fee they were buying shares in the league and City was made operator of NYCFC. The contracts players sign are with the league and not the individual clubs.

Fair enough. But I doubt the league will be paying for it or deciding where their players go. Nor the Yankees.

[JamieMCFC]

We don't 'own them' - our owners own a majority share in them and own us.

Wrong. Manchester City Football Group, own them.

Note the words 'Manchester City' in the title.

I'm talking bollocks there it's 'City' but it's the same thing. It's City who are running this, not an outside operation.

Technically you are both wrong. NYCFC are owned by by the league. When City paid the expansion fee they were buying shares in the league and City was made operator of NYCFC. The contracts players sign are with the league and not the individual clubs.

Fair enough. But I doubt the league will be paying for it or deciding where their players go. Nor the Yankees.

Actually they do determine where players go. It happened with Jermaine Jones this season. There are all kinds of weird rules MLS has. Most of them the media and fans don't know understand because the league won't explain them.

[iwasthere2012]

Benteke will be relieved to hear you have absolutely no interest in him Ted! As far as I know Benteke has no interest in you. Let's hope Kun comes back quickly making all this moot. However, if he's out for the season the Club will be into the market for a striker. The idea that they would give up on the League title by relying on 2 strikers one of whom has a poor injury record is silly.

They wouldn't just have 2 strikers if Kelechi got a permit & they brought back Cole, they would have 4, plus Pozo, maybe even Ambrose, Yaya could step up & Villa may be available til March on loan.

They've let that plastic headed cunt make his politiical speech at the CFA, I expect a work permit for Iheanacho on its way, if it's not there already. I would much rather have Kelechi than most strikers we could realistically sign in Jan, including Benteke.

I don't know much about English politics, but I have to say the same thought crossed my mind, watching the CFA opening.
I was just wondering would someone in government be having a word with their colleagues in Foreign Affairs.
I'd love to see this lad in the league in January.

[PeterParker]

It will all depend of how much will Sergio be out, but sooner than later, we need to buy a new striker.

Bony and Benteke are not solutions imho, they are B players, we need a striker to play alongside Sergio for the next season. Jojo is that man, but he will never be fit to play in those games, week in week out.

There is only one striker out there that will be perfect for our squad: Gonzalo Higuain. But to buy the argie, we need to invest and with the FFP, the chances of that happening now are beyond slim.

So plan B is simple: Pozo.

Higuain is a bottler.

Higuain, no thanks no improvement on dzeko.

2007–2013 Real Madrid 190 (107)
2013– Napoli 44 (24)

Does this look like a flop? Now imagine him with a fit Sergio.

He is a bottler who went missing in many of Real's CL knockout and el clasico ties. Statistics are b*ll*x. Even Mario Gomez has extraordinary stats, he is an average player.

We have players that can solve a big game, but we still fail to have players that can win it at QPR, when Sergio is out. Maybe he is a bottler, you can't argue he is a scorer. He was and always will. Plus, the most important thing in all of this, he is a player that is often fit. If say that stats are bollox, then maybe we can say Inzaghi was shit too, 86 % of his goals were scored from inside the box.

Regarding Gomez, he is not, that is why he almost did not play for Fiorentina.

Higuain with Sergio will tear defensives apart.

[Nigels Tackle]

Benteke will be relieved to hear you have absolutely no interest in him Ted! As far as I know Benteke has no interest in you. Let's hope Kun comes back quickly making all this moot. However, if he's out for the season the Club will be into the market for a striker. The idea that they would give up on the League title by relying on 2 strikers one of whom has a poor injury record is silly.

They wouldn't just have 2 strikers if Kelechi got a permit & they brought back Cole, they would have 4, plus Pozo, maybe even Ambrose, Yaya could step up & Villa may be available til March on loan.

They've let that plastic headed cunt make his politiical speech at the CFA, I expect a work permit for Iheanacho on its way, if it's not there already. I would much rather have Kelechi than most strikers we could realistically sign in Jan, including Benteke.

I don't know much about English politics, but I have to say the same thought crossed my mind, watching the CFA opening.
I was just wondering would someone in government be having a word with their colleagues in Foreign Affairs.
I'd love to see this lad in the league in January.

this is a home office matter....
theresa may or she may not decide to grant ian nacho a work permit

[Ted Hughes]

We don't 'own them' - our owners own a majority share in them and own us.

Wrong. Manchester City Football Group, own them.

Note the words 'Manchester City' in the title.

I'm talking bollocks there it's 'City' but it's the same thing. It's City who are running this, not an outside operation.

Technically you are both wrong. NYCFC are owned by by the league. When City paid the expansion fee they were buying shares in the league and City was made operator of NYCFC. The contracts players sign are with the league and not the individual clubs.

Fair enough. But I doubt the league will be paying for it or deciding where their players go. Nor the Yankees.

Actually they do determine where players go. It happened with Jermaine Jones this season. There are all kinds of weird rules MLS has. Most of them the media and fans don't know understand because the league won't explain them.

Nope. Not having that.

City decide what happens with Lampard, end of.

[getdressedmctavish]

Madness to buy a striker when a guys out for a month and no striker who is any good would come on that basis. The answer is playing effectively with what we've got and players like Fernandinho Milner and Navas taking some responsibility for getting on the score sheet.Forget about Ya Ya playing further forward, he cant.IMO

[Piccsnumberoneblue]

Benteke will be relieved to hear you have absolutely no interest in him Ted! As far as I know Benteke has no interest in you. Let's hope Kun comes back quickly making all this moot. However, if he's out for the season the Club will be into the market for a striker. The idea that they would give up on the League title by relying on 2 strikers one of whom has a poor injury record is silly.

They wouldn't just have 2 strikers if Kelechi got a permit & they brought back Cole, they would have 4, plus Pozo, maybe even Ambrose, Yaya could step up & Villa may be available til March on loan.

They've let that plastic headed cunt make his politiical speech at the CFA, I expect a work permit for Iheanacho on its way, if it's not there already. I would much rather have Kelechi than most strikers we could realistically sign in Jan, including Benteke.

I don't know much about English politics, but I have to say the same thought crossed my mind, watching the CFA opening.
I was just wondering would someone in government be having a word with their colleagues in Foreign Affairs.
I'd love to see this lad in the league in January.

this is a home office matter....
theresa may or she may not decide to grant ian nacho a work permit

Quality gag, worthy of recognition

[Mikhail Chigorin]

Benteke will be relieved to hear you have absolutely no interest in him Ted! As far as I know Benteke has no interest in you. Let's hope Kun comes back quickly making all this moot. However, if he's out for the season the Club will be into the market for a striker. The idea that they would give up on the League title by relying on 2 strikers one of whom has a poor injury record is silly.

They wouldn't just have 2 strikers if Kelechi got a permit & they brought back Cole, they would have 4, plus Pozo, maybe even Ambrose, Yaya could step up & Villa may be available til March on loan.

They've let that plastic headed cunt make his politiical speech at the CFA, I expect a work permit for Iheanacho on its way, if it's not there already. I would much rather have Kelechi than most strikers we could realistically sign in Jan, including Benteke.

I don't know much about English politics, but I have to say the same thought crossed my mind, watching the CFA opening.
I was just wondering would someone in government be having a word with their colleagues in Foreign Affairs.
I'd love to see this lad in the league in January.

this is a home office matter....
theresa may or she may not decide to grant ian nacho a work permit

She should also decide to do something about her split ends too, whilst she's at it - the scruffy, ugly, swinish Tory bitch.

[Dameerto]

I really hope there was some networking angle to Osbourne being allowed to use us as a photo op. because it annoys the heck out of me otherwise.