We could lose our Pot 2 in next seasons UCL.........

[CTID Hants]

Manchester City face prospect of dropping into pot three of next season's Champions League draw if they fail to defeat Barcelona


Manchester City could damage their prospects of success in the Champions League next season if they crash out of the competition at the last-16 stage in Barcelona.
City are borderline whether they are placed in either the second or third group of seeds for the 2015-16 group stages and risk a potential draw with Barcelona and Paris Saint-Germain, or Bayern Munich and Atletico Madrid, if they don't improve their Uefa coefficient and drop into pot three.
Pellegrini's men are currently ranked the 16th best team in Europe but that could fall if they fail to make this season's quarter-finals.

Coefficients are based on European performances over the last five seasons which is why Manchester United are placed higher than City despite not qualifying last season. Arsenal's ranking also remains high because they have reached the Champions League knockout stages every year in the time span.
City have complained in the past of unfavourable draws in the Champions League group stages hampering their progress. Despite more than £1billion invested into the club since 2008, the Abu Dhabi owners have not seen their side progress beyond the first knockout stage of the competition.
They failed to qualify from a tough group in 2011-12 after being paired with Napoli, Bayern Munich and Villarreal and suffered the same fate the following season against Real Madrid, Borussia Dortmund and Ajax.
Their co-efficient has risen since and they were able to finish second in their group this season after being placed among the second seeds and being drawn against Bayern Munich, CSKA Moscow and Roma.
However, Uefa have changed their seeding policy for next season and the domestic champions of England, Italy, Germany, Spain, France, Portugal and Russia will automatically be top seeds alongside the winners of this year's competition.

The second pot will be made up of the next eight highest-ranked clubs – and City can't be certain of that. Among the clubs just below them in the listings are Juventus who look certain to be top seeds as Italian champions and Sevilla, Inter Milan and Napoli who are all still in the Europa League and can improve their coefficient in that competition.
There are still a lot of twists and turns in the domestic leagues before next season's seedings are announced and of course City still have to confirm their own participation by finishing in the top four of the Premier League.
But there is no doubt the outcome in the Nou Camp, where they have to overturn a 2-1 first leg deficit, could have an effect on City.
This is how next season's Champions League group seedings would look if the season ended during the current stage of the campaign:


Top seeds: Real Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern Munich, Chelsea, Lyon, Benfica, Zenit St Petersburg and Juventus

Second pot: Atletico Madrid (ranked 5th), Arsenal (8th), Porto (9th), Manchester United (10th), Paris St Germain (11th), Valencia (13th), Bayer Leverkusen (15th) and Manchester City (16th)

City are particularly vulnerable because they could be replaced by Schalke in the second pot if the German side, currently fifth in the Bundesliga, finished in the top four. They need to make progress against Barcelona to raise their coefficient sufficiently to virtually guarantee they would be among the second seeds next season.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... paign=1490

[lets all have a disco]

Like it mattered this year.

[Wonderwall]

Like it mattered this year.

yup, same here.... meh

[nottsblue]

You get the impression it won't matter either way. Likely to get a shit draw whether we are pot 2 or 3. Pot 2 this year hasn't done us any favours. Let's just make sure we are actually in it next year before worrying

[lets all have a disco]

1,2,3 or 4

We will always most likely get 2 other country champions and the most feared wildcard/wildcards.

[mr_nool]

Let's first secure a spot in next year's competition. Then we can start worry about which pot we will be in.

[Tokyo Blue]

Catch Chelsea, win the league, Pot 1, fuck off Daily Mail.

[City64]

Manchester City face prospect of dropping into pot three of next season's Champions League draw if they fail to defeat Barcelona


Manchester City could damage their prospects of success in the Champions League next season if they crash out of the competition at the last-16 stage in Barcelona.
City are borderline whether they are placed in either the second or third group of seeds for the 2015-16 group stages and risk a potential draw with Barcelona and Paris Saint-Germain, or Bayern Munich and Atletico Madrid, if they don't improve their Uefa coefficient and drop into pot three.
Pellegrini's men are currently ranked the 16th best team in Europe but that could fall if they fail to make this season's quarter-finals.

Coefficients are based on European performances over the last five seasons which is why Manchester United are placed higher than City despite not qualifying last season. Arsenal's ranking also remains high because they have reached the Champions League knockout stages every year in the time span.
City have complained in the past of unfavourable draws in the Champions League group stages hampering their progress. Despite more than £1billion invested into the club since 2008, the Abu Dhabi owners have not seen their side progress beyond the first knockout stage of the competition.
They failed to qualify from a tough group in 2011-12 after being paired with Napoli, Bayern Munich and Villarreal and suffered the same fate the following season against Real Madrid, Borussia Dortmund and Ajax.
Their co-efficient has risen since and they were able to finish second in their group this season after being placed among the second seeds and being drawn against Bayern Munich, CSKA Moscow and Roma.
However, Uefa have changed their seeding policy for next season and the domestic champions of England, Italy, Germany, Spain, France, Portugal and Russia will automatically be top seeds alongside the winners of this year's competition.

The second pot will be made up of the next eight highest-ranked clubs – and City can't be certain of that. Among the clubs just below them in the listings are Juventus who look certain to be top seeds as Italian champions and Sevilla, Inter Milan and Napoli who are all still in the Europa League and can improve their coefficient in that competition.
There are still a lot of twists and turns in the domestic leagues before next season's seedings are announced and of course City still have to confirm their own participation by finishing in the top four of the Premier League.
But there is no doubt the outcome in the Nou Camp, where they have to overturn a 2-1 first leg deficit, could have an effect on City.
This is how next season's Champions League group seedings would look if the season ended during the current stage of the campaign:


Top seeds: Real Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern Munich, Chelsea, Lyon, Benfica, Zenit St Petersburg and Juventus

Second pot: Atletico Madrid (ranked 5th), Arsenal (8th), Porto (9th), Manchester United (10th), Paris St Germain (11th), Valencia (13th), Bayer Leverkusen (15th) and Manchester City (16th)

City are particularly vulnerable because they could be replaced by Schalke in the second pot if the German side, currently fifth in the Bundesliga, finished in the top four. They need to make progress against Barcelona to raise their coefficient sufficiently to virtually guarantee they would be among the second seeds next season.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... paign=1490

So fucking what ??? We might not even finish 4 th this season and if we do we will without doubt get yet another mega tough group . More interested in the Premier League tbh .

[Blue Since 76]

Catch Chelsea, win the league, Pot 1, fuck off Daily Mail.

That would be my preference, but then we'd get Atletico, Shalke...

Anyway, if you get battered by CSKA at home, does it matter which pot we're in

[iwasthere2012]

Let's first secure a spot in next year's competition. Then we can start worry about which pot we will be in.

I'd be more worried about this, than what pot we may not be in.

[Hazy2]

Arsenal a hard luck story ! City mess up again, No agenda here.......

[zuricity]

So on the day we play Barca, the mail has nothing better to say about City ?

What are house prices doing in Blighty today ?

[Blue Since 76]

So on the day we play Barca, the mail has nothing better to say about City ?

What are house prices doing in Blighty today ?

Increasing due to immigrants

[South Stand Balti]

The Dippers were in pot 3 this year but got the easiest group I have ever seen. I had nt even heard of one of the teams.

[Hutch's Shoulder]

We could be in group one and still get Bayern and CSKA somehow

[lets all have a disco]

The Dippers were in pot 3 this year but got the easiest group I have ever seen. I had nt even heard of one of the teams.

That wont happen for us.

Real
Dortmund
US
Roma


Early doors draw i reckon.

[nottsblue]

The Dippers were in pot 3 this year but got the easiest group I have ever seen. I had nt even heard of one of the teams.

That wont happen for us.

Real
Dortmund
US
Roma


Early doors draw i reckon.

Dortmund won't be in it and Roma are doing their best to fuck up qualification. As mentioned earlier, let's make sure we actually qualify as it is by no means a given

[freshie]

The Dippers were in pot 3 this year but got the easiest group I have ever seen. I had nt even heard of one of the teams.

I know. Who the fuck are Real Madrid? ;)

[Im_Spartacus]

This is probably the laziest article I've ever read.

Schalke are already above us based on the current coefficients, our only threat comes from Juventus, all the clubs below us who are close to us are already eliminated from all European competitions. Beyond that, not all the clubs in the top 16 will qualify for the champions league, eg, Dortmund (definitely) and the rags, meaning the 2nd pot will extend down to 17th or 18th place.

http://www.uefa.com/memberassociations/ ... ings/club/

More interestingly, is the fact that the rags, if they don't qualify this year, stand to lose 31 points from 2010/11 which will actually see them drop down to around 20th place. They have already lost their 1st seeding, and will drop out of the first 2 pots entirely