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Re: Clattenburg ref for Derby

Postby Mase » Sun Oct 25, 2015 4:03 pm

phips wrote:i thought he had a pretty good match. maybe even slightly favored us with that Sterling possible pen.


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Re: Clattenburg ref for Derby

Postby iwasthere2012 » Sun Oct 25, 2015 4:04 pm

phips wrote:i thought he had a pretty good match. maybe even slightly favored us with that Sterling possible pen.

I thought the Otamendi one at the end was a peno too. So evens itself out really.
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Re: Clattenburg ref for Derby

Postby Beefymcfc » Sun Oct 25, 2015 4:07 pm

No need for Ref Watch today, he made honest decisions and kept his lino's in check, good the majority of the time.
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Re: Clattenburg ref for Derby

Postby Mase » Sun Oct 25, 2015 4:11 pm

I disagree Beefy. There were a couple of instances in the first half where there was a free kick against us given, but when a rag player did the same it was 'play on'. Rojo should have had a card in the second. Clattenburg was surrounded by four red shirts that didn't agree with a decision and he put his hand on Shrek's head as if they were best of mates.
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Re: Clattenburg ref for Derby

Postby Beefymcfc » Sun Oct 25, 2015 4:16 pm

Mase wrote:I disagree Beefy. There were a couple of instances in the first half where there was a free kick against us given, but when a rag player did the same it was 'play on'. Rojo should have had a card in the second. Clattenburg was surrounded by four red shirts that didn't agree with a decision and he put his hand on Shrek's head as if they were best of mates.

I agree mate and was screaming for a yellow, sometimes red, but he let the game play on for us as well.

It was an average game that didn't bring controversy, that's all we can ask.

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Re: Clattenburg ref for Derby

Postby Tokyo Blue » Sun Oct 25, 2015 4:25 pm

Beefymcfc wrote:
Mase wrote:I disagree Beefy. There were a couple of instances in the first half where there was a free kick against us given, but when a rag player did the same it was 'play on'. Rojo should have had a card in the second. Clattenburg was surrounded by four red shirts that didn't agree with a decision and he put his hand on Shrek's head as if they were best of mates.

I agree mate and was screaming for a yellow, sometimes red, but he let the game play on for us as well.

It was an average game that didn't bring controversy, that's all we can ask.

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I wasn't overly happy with toilet brush getting away with an assault on Fernandinho, nor the challenge from behind on Sterling in the first half when he was breaking forward that didn't get a free-kick/yellow card. Numerous throw-ins given to them that weren't and a corner or two. Nothing really outrageous but he did his best for them.
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Re: Clattenburg ref for Derby

Postby phips » Sun Oct 25, 2015 5:39 pm

Mase wrote:
phips wrote:i thought he had a pretty good match. maybe even slightly favored us with that Sterling possible pen.


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Re: Clattenburg ref for Derby

Postby Peter Doherty (AGAIG) » Sun Oct 25, 2015 5:43 pm

Nothing blatant today, but the bias was still there (especially in the first half).
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Re: Clattenburg ref for Derby

Postby Mase » Sun Oct 25, 2015 5:57 pm

Yaya should have had a corner and was going mental when a goalkick was given. Add that to the list.
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Re: Clattenburg ref for Derby

Postby Beefymcfc » Sun Oct 25, 2015 5:59 pm

Tokyo Blue wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:
Mase wrote:I disagree Beefy. There were a couple of instances in the first half where there was a free kick against us given, but when a rag player did the same it was 'play on'. Rojo should have had a card in the second. Clattenburg was surrounded by four red shirts that didn't agree with a decision and he put his hand on Shrek's head as if they were best of mates.

I agree mate and was screaming for a yellow, sometimes red, but he let the game play on for us as well.

It was an average game that didn't bring controversy, that's all we can ask.

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I wasn't overly happy with toilet brush getting away with an assault on Fernandinho, nor the challenge from behind on Sterling in the first half when he was breaking forward that didn't get a free-kick/yellow card. Numerous throw-ins given to them that weren't and a corner or two. Nothing really outrageous but he did his best for them.

Yes mate, my Mrs had to get me too calm down as I was seeing the same. It was one of those games where it had that many watching that the ref had to make sure the big decisions were spot on while allowing the smaller ones to be contentious.

Clattenburg has always been a cunt to us but today he wasn't, on major decisions.

As a bloke who was sat in the stands when he had the ordacity to send Bellers off, I really have an issue. As there was no blatant cheating such as this, I'm a little less hostile.
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Re: Clattenburg ref for Derby

Postby london blue 2 » Sun Oct 25, 2015 9:56 pm

He was ok today. A little bit off first half but generally fair. To be honest he didn't really have much to do.
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Re: Clattenburg ref for Derby

Postby City64 » Sun Oct 25, 2015 10:08 pm

3 or 4 dodgy decisions went against us first half which had me going mental but I thought he was excellent second half .
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Re: Clattenburg ref for Derby

Postby dazby » Mon Oct 26, 2015 5:53 am

I thought he had a couple of opportunities to really screw us over but he was strong.

Apart from the Yaya corner, no grizzles.
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Re: Clattenburg ref for Derby

Postby Nigels Tackle » Mon Oct 26, 2015 10:16 am

dazby wrote:I thought he had a couple of opportunities to really screw us over but he was strong.

Apart from the Yaya corner, no grizzles.


what about the valencia / kolarov corner in the opening exchanges that wasn't given..?
he was fine. best ref of a bad bunch.
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Re: Clattenburg ref for Derby

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Mon Oct 26, 2015 10:17 am

Gave them more than us.

Fact.

Also , did you see the cunt crouch down and quickly point to the keepers spot when he imagined that the ball going out into touch, had Yayas last touch to it.???

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Re: Clattenburg ref for Derby

Postby mcfc1632 » Mon Oct 26, 2015 1:16 pm

Im_Spartacus wrote:
Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:
walmai wrote:
Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:Just wondering how many offside goals we'll concede.


Something of a mixed day down at Selhurst at the weekend.

Gave a very dubious pen, but then sent off Gayle, who very much deserved his first yellow, but probably wound up one too many people for his second.

The funny thing was that the Palace lot all boo-ed him when his name was first announced. Almost as if they knew he'd eventually make a call that they didn't like.

Pardew did however make a proper fool of himself moaning about it. Seemed to me like he'd wound up his young striker to get in among the sledging, only for it to all go a bit Pete before half-time.

My main worry with him is that he seems to be the go-to ref when the league needs to stop us running away with the title, or like two years ago, when he almost helped the dippers win the title by ensuring (in two games at the end of the season) that Suarez stayed on the pitch when he should have had a red. And let's not forget, he's the guy that 'amended' his match report ensuring Adebayor could be charged after the Arsenal game when he ran the length of the pitch. Then there's the Chelsea away game 4 seasons ago, the spurs game this season, the rags away last season, etc.


And the game we won 6-1 with Evans sent off, which put us on course to run away with the title?

Was that just an accident?



Just came across this and thought it should be replied to even though the derby match has been a gone.

Notwithstanding the fact that Clattenburg has not shown bias in the game yesterday - this myth that simply because he was the ref in the sick swan game demonstrates that he was not previously biased against CITY is actually just casual bollocks that does not reflect the facts. He gave us fuck all in that game - and gave so many 50/50 decisions to the scum and denied us a clear penalty. When it came to sending Evans off - he actually looked physically sick as it dawned on him that he could not ignore the foul.

There have been many refs clearly cowed into being biased for fear of the damage that could be done to their careers and the key figure in all this refereeing bias was baconface - there was history going back years that bring forward many examples of refs giving into the pressure that the PMGOL allowed him to exert.

It is not difficult to understand how it was allowed to happen. We all want to progress in our careers and being a Ref is now just that - a career. Howard Webb was the WC ref - why - because he was deemed the best English ref so he went to the finals - and why was he deemed the best ref in England - because he was the go-to ref for the big games. That was very largely down to the fact that fergiescum 'allowed' him to ref games involving the scum - and that was simply because of the years of favoured treatment Webb gave the scum.

There has been lots of examples of refs being kept away from scum games after fergiescum's interventions following a result when they were treated simply as normal. Webb changed towards reffing scum games after he had 'made it' and towards the end of his career reffed games more even-headedly - because he no longer had to fear what GPC could do. I think that Clattenburg is also now at that point in his career. Of course the GPC has gone and LVG does not have the same influence - the laughable one is José - he is clearly trying the same strategy - but he is not figure to be feared that he thinks that he is.

Anyway, the long-winded point I am making is that the fact that we beat the scum 6-1 that day was not any evidence of lack of bias from Clattenburg.
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Re: Clattenburg ref for Derby

Postby Im_Spartacus » Mon Oct 26, 2015 1:48 pm

mcfc1632 wrote:
Im_Spartacus wrote:
Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:
walmai wrote:
Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:Just wondering how many offside goals we'll concede.


Something of a mixed day down at Selhurst at the weekend.

Gave a very dubious pen, but then sent off Gayle, who very much deserved his first yellow, but probably wound up one too many people for his second.

The funny thing was that the Palace lot all boo-ed him when his name was first announced. Almost as if they knew he'd eventually make a call that they didn't like.

Pardew did however make a proper fool of himself moaning about it. Seemed to me like he'd wound up his young striker to get in among the sledging, only for it to all go a bit Pete before half-time.

My main worry with him is that he seems to be the go-to ref when the league needs to stop us running away with the title, or like two years ago, when he almost helped the dippers win the title by ensuring (in two games at the end of the season) that Suarez stayed on the pitch when he should have had a red. And let's not forget, he's the guy that 'amended' his match report ensuring Adebayor could be charged after the Arsenal game when he ran the length of the pitch. Then there's the Chelsea away game 4 seasons ago, the spurs game this season, the rags away last season, etc.


And the game we won 6-1 with Evans sent off, which put us on course to run away with the title?

Was that just an accident?



Just came across this and thought it should be replied to even though the derby match has been a gone.

Notwithstanding the fact that Clattenburg has not shown bias in the game yesterday - this myth that simply because he was the ref in the sick swan game demonstrates that he was not previously biased against CITY is actually just casual bullocks that does not reflect the facts. He gave us fuck all in that game - and gave so many 50/50 decisions to the scum and denied us a clear penalty. When it came to sending Evans off - he actually looked physically sick as it dawned on him that he could not ignore the foul.

There have been many refs clearly cowed into being biased for fear of the damage that could be done to their careers and the key figure in all this refereeing bias was baconface - there was history going back years that bring forward many examples of refs giving into the pressure that the PMGOL allowed him to exert.

It is not difficult to understand how it was allowed to happen. We all want to progress in our careers and being a Ref is now just that - a career. Howard Webb was the WC ref - why - because he was deemed the best English ref so he went to the finals - and why was he deemed the best ref in England - because he was the go-to ref for the big games. That was very largely down to the fact that fergiescum 'allowed' him to ref games involving the scum - and that was simply because of the years of favoured treatment Webb gave the scum.

There has been lots of examples of refs being kept away from scum games after fergiescum's interventions following a result when they were treated simply as normal. Webb changed towards reffing scum games after he had 'made it' and towards the end of his career reffed games more even-headedly - because he no longer had to fear what GPC could do. I think that Clattenburg is also now at that point in his career. Of course the GPC has gone and LVG does not have the same influence - the laughable one is José - he is clearly trying the same strategy - but he is not figure to be feared that he thinks that he is.

Anyway, the long-winded point I am making is that the fact that we beat the scum 6-1 that day was not any evidence of lack of bias from Clattenburg.


I think your long winded point mirrors what I've said about all refs for several years now, I don't disagree with you at all about how the career motivations and human nature are used against referees to subversively get what the PGMOL or FA or sky etc want.

However, you kinda contradict your own argument. Clattenburg refereed well in the 1-6 on the whole, and when it came down to it there was very little for him to do which could have influenced the result, barring the penalty. But if he refereed that game even handedly considering he was in that period you say where he was aspiring to be the top ref and therefore under the influence of his puppet-masters, then surely he wasn't aspiring too hard!

I've mentioned already in this thread what he did on his return from his banishment from reffing rag games, and even went so far as to predict exactly what would happen before the game (Clattenburg involved in game changing incident in the rags favour). One might say that 'he learned his lesson'
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Re: Clattenburg ref for Derby

Postby WhyAlwaysMe? » Mon Oct 26, 2015 10:07 pm

Thank goodness Mark Clattenburg didn't directly cause City to lose yesterday's derby, like he did during the Spurs match... We're just very lucky that City aren't playing Newcastle next, in the League Cup match!

If Corruptedburg can be qualified by PiGMOL as an "elite" ref and they're promoting younger refs like Robert Madley, then the refs will continue to be more threatening to City, than the teams they play!
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