Hutch's Shoulder wrote:It's really difficult to understand the thinking behind this appointment, so presumably there wasn't any.
Beefymcfc wrote:As soon as a manager comes out defending his track record then you know he's fucked, and Gollum hasn't even played a game yet!
Risk management on behalf of the owners, they don't give a shit about the club, just about the profit. Spend fuck all, move backwards and then bring another cheap manager on a short-term contract. All about lining their pockets, and we, as City fans, are well aware of that type of owner, but how lucky are we now to have somebody of substance.
Chinners wrote:Poor old West Ham, what the hell are they thinking by employing someone that has left his last 3 clubs in a worse state than when he took over .... and that's no mean feat in the case of Sunderland.
RIP WHUFC
Dunnylad wrote:I still find it a disgrace that failure in football counts for nothing and you can walk back into a high profile role without anyone batting an eyelid - fair enough if you didn't hit if off with your boss, but Moyes is a repeated failure.
I find it interesting to hear tales like the one below in the Gruniard about Graham Potter who seems to be achieving impressive things with Ostersund (maybe our Swedish posters could elaborate more on this) and boasts a Masters in Leadership and Emotional Intelligence:-
https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... ague-clubs
mr_nool wrote:Dunnylad wrote:I still find it a disgrace that failure in football counts for nothing and you can walk back into a high profile role without anyone batting an eyelid - fair enough if you didn't hit if off with your boss, but Moyes is a repeated failure.
I find it interesting to hear tales like the one below in the Gruniard about Graham Potter who seems to be achieving impressive things with Ostersund (maybe our Swedish posters could elaborate more on this) and boasts a Masters in Leadership and Emotional Intelligence:-
https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... ague-clubs
He's worked absolute wonders in Östersund with some very unorthodox ideas, both on and off the field. He's not the only one that should be praised for their success story, though. The chairman is somewhat of a visionary. He's the one who brought in Potter, and also came up with the transfer strategy to bring in talents who've failed elsewhere (often because of off the pitch reasons) and give them a second chance. But it's Potter who's worked with them daily, getting their confidence back by having them dance ballet and do theatre plays in front of a crowd, etc.
Östersund is a tiny place in the middle of nowhere. To appreciate what Potter has done getting them from tier 4 to leading their Europa League group, you have to imagine a small 4th tier Scottish side or perhaps doing the same. He certainly deserves a shot at a bigger club, imo.
mr_nool wrote:Dunnylad wrote:I still find it a disgrace that failure in football counts for nothing and you can walk back into a high profile role without anyone batting an eyelid - fair enough if you didn't hit if off with your boss, but Moyes is a repeated failure.
I find it interesting to hear tales like the one below in the Gruniard about Graham Potter who seems to be achieving impressive things with Ostersund (maybe our Swedish posters could elaborate more on this) and boasts a Masters in Leadership and Emotional Intelligence:-
https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... ague-clubs
He's worked absolute wonders in Östersund with some very unorthodox ideas, both on and off the field. He's not the only one that should be praised for their success story, though. The chairman is somewhat of a visionary. He's the one who brought in Potter, and also came up with the transfer strategy to bring in talents who've failed elsewhere (often because of off the pitch reasons) and give them a second chance. But it's Potter who's worked with them daily, getting their confidence back by having them dance ballet and do theatre plays in front of a crowd, etc.
Östersund is a tiny place in the middle of nowhere. To appreciate what Potter has done getting them from tier 4 to leading their Europa League group, you have to imagine a small 4th tier Scottish side or perhaps doing the same. He certainly deserves a shot at a bigger club, imo.
Dunnylad wrote:mr_nool wrote:Dunnylad wrote:I still find it a disgrace that failure in football counts for nothing and you can walk back into a high profile role without anyone batting an eyelid - fair enough if you didn't hit if off with your boss, but Moyes is a repeated failure.
I find it interesting to hear tales like the one below in the Gruniard about Graham Potter who seems to be achieving impressive things with Ostersund (maybe our Swedish posters could elaborate more on this) and boasts a Masters in Leadership and Emotional Intelligence:-
https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... ague-clubs
He's worked absolute wonders in Östersund with some very unorthodox ideas, both on and off the field. He's not the only one that should be praised for their success story, though. The chairman is somewhat of a visionary. He's the one who brought in Potter, and also came up with the transfer strategy to bring in talents who've failed elsewhere (often because of off the pitch reasons) and give them a second chance. But it's Potter who's worked with them daily, getting their confidence back by having them dance ballet and do theatre plays in front of a crowd, etc.
Östersund is a tiny place in the middle of nowhere. To appreciate what Potter has done getting them from tier 4 to leading their Europa League group, you have to imagine a small 4th tier Scottish side or perhaps doing the same. He certainly deserves a shot at a bigger club, imo.
Thanks Mr Nool - I sometimes take articles like that with a pinch of salt and you are right there are other conditions and people that are needed for it to be a success. That transfer strategy is interesting as well and you need the right person to help turn them around, which is probably where his academic background comes into things. The question would be could you parachute him into a top team, with all those egos and have the same effect? I doubt it and maybe you need to think of adopting a similar approach at a lower league club in the UK and see where it takes you?
mr_nool wrote:Dunnylad wrote:mr_nool wrote:Dunnylad wrote:I still find it a disgrace that failure in football counts for nothing and you can walk back into a high profile role without anyone batting an eyelid - fair enough if you didn't hit if off with your boss, but Moyes is a repeated failure.
I find it interesting to hear tales like the one below in the Gruniard about Graham Potter who seems to be achieving impressive things with Ostersund (maybe our Swedish posters could elaborate more on this) and boasts a Masters in Leadership and Emotional Intelligence:-
https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... ague-clubs
He's worked absolute wonders in Östersund with some very unorthodox ideas, both on and off the field. He's not the only one that should be praised for their success story, though. The chairman is somewhat of a visionary. He's the one who brought in Potter, and also came up with the transfer strategy to bring in talents who've failed elsewhere (often because of off the pitch reasons) and give them a second chance. But it's Potter who's worked with them daily, getting their confidence back by having them dance ballet and do theatre plays in front of a crowd, etc.
Östersund is a tiny place in the middle of nowhere. To appreciate what Potter has done getting them from tier 4 to leading their Europa League group, you have to imagine a small 4th tier Scottish side or perhaps doing the same. He certainly deserves a shot at a bigger club, imo.
Thanks Mr Nool - I sometimes take articles like that with a pinch of salt and you are right there are other conditions and people that are needed for it to be a success. That transfer strategy is interesting as well and you need the right person to help turn them around, which is probably where his academic background comes into things. The question would be could you parachute him into a top team, with all those egos and have the same effect? I doubt it and maybe you need to think of adopting a similar approach at a lower league club in the UK and see where it takes you?
I agree with you. A former top club in dire straights would probably be a good fit - like Sunderland, Blackburn or Bolton.
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