I know friendlies don't count for much

[Evenmydoghatesunited]

Moyes off to a flier I'm happy to note


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23303010

.....although I see the rags at the BBC have said it's a good omen as Slur Aliksh lost his first game too.

[Beefymcfc]

Richard Conway
BBC Sport in Thailand

David Moyes was philosophical after this defeat. There's no doubt he would have wanted to get off to a winning start but he was severely hampered in his team selection, with Robin van Persie, Nani, David de Gea, Javier Hernandez, Nemanja Vidic and Wayne Rooney all unavailable.

In their absence, 18-year-old Adnan Januzaj shone in midfield for United while Wilfried Zaha was unlucky not to score an equaliser on his debut, his shot hitting the post.

Perhaps there's some solace for Moyes in the fact that his predecessor, Sir Alex Ferguson, also lost his first game in charge of the club.

A 2-0 loss at Oxford United back in November 1986 was no portent of the trophies that would follow. Moyes will hope that such symmetry with Ferguson continues.

So, does that mean he's got 4 years to get his first trophy and 6 to win the league? No wonder Taggart asked for the fans to give him time. Nothing like setting the scene for the Rags.

[Slim]

I do like the way the BBC flat out refused to name the side instead mentioning a youngster and a new recruit in order to give us the impression it was entirely a B team/youth team. They failed to mention entirely that Ferdinand, Evans, Cleverley, Carrick, Anderson, Giggs and Welbeck all started with Evra, Jones and Rafael all coming off the bench. Zaha played all of 27 minutes and the story made it seem like he was leading the line amongst a bunch of kids.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

First post with "tick-tock" will earn virtual slap in the face.

[Peter Doherty (AGAIG)]

Tock-tick....

[Evenmydoghatesunited]

I do like the way the BBC flat out refused to name the side instead mentioning a youngster and a new recruit in order to give us the impression it was entirely a B team/youth team. They failed to mention entirely that Ferdinand, Evans, Cleverley, Carrick, Anderson, Giggs and Welbeck all started with Evra, Jones and Rafael all coming off the bench. Zaha played all of 27 minutes and the story made it seem like he was leading the line amongst a bunch of kids.

Goebbels would have been a rag

[Beefymcfc]

I do like the way the BBC flat out refused to name the side instead mentioning a youngster and a new recruit in order to give us the impression it was entirely a B team/youth team. They failed to mention entirely that Ferdinand, Evans, Cleverley, Carrick, Anderson, Giggs and Welbeck all started with Evra, Jones and Rafael all coming off the bench. Zaha played all of 27 minutes and the story made it seem like he was leading the line amongst a bunch of kids.

Do you know what, that's the way I was viewing it before I read your post. I didn't watch, nor read anything on it but it does go to show how spin can paint such a different picture.

Weren't they playing the Thai National team as well?

[Slim]

I do like the way the BBC flat out refused to name the side instead mentioning a youngster and a new recruit in order to give us the impression it was entirely a B team/youth team. They failed to mention entirely that Ferdinand, Evans, Cleverley, Carrick, Anderson, Giggs and Welbeck all started with Evra, Jones and Rafael all coming off the bench. Zaha played all of 27 minutes and the story made it seem like he was leading the line amongst a bunch of kids.

Do you know what, that's the way I was viewing it before I read your post. I didn't watch, nor read anything on it but it does go to show how spin can paint such a different picture.

Weren't they playing the Thai National team as well?

Singha All Stars

Check this report from an Australian site.

The Scot named a strong side for the friendly fixture in Bangkok, with Rio Ferdinand, Michael Carrick and Ryan Giggs all starting. Wayne Rooney was absent though after the England striker flew home from Asia in the week with a hamstring injury.

United almost suffered a nightmare opening after just three minutes, as a long ball found Teeratep Winothai, but he took too long to get an effort in on goal. Jonny Evans made up ground to dispossess the striker and spare the tourists' blushes.

As the first half went on, United began to dominate, although both sides had good chances to score and it was the hosts who perhaps had the best opportunity.

Winothai again had the chance after a well executed lofted pass and Ben Amos was forced into a strong reaction save to ensure the sides went in goalless at half-time.

However, just four minutes into the second period, the All Star XI were ahead thanks to a strike from the dangerous Winothai.

The 28-year-old beat Amos at his near post to give his team a surprising, but not undeserved, lead.

United brought on Wilfried Zaha later in the half to try and inject some energy into their play, but Moyes' men struggled to break down a resolute home defence.

The former Crystal Palace man had a great opportunity to draw his side level on 81 minutes but headed wide from a deep Fabio cross.

A minute later, Zaha again threatened but saw his effort cannon back off the post, meaning Moyes started his Old Trafoord career with a defeat.

[Dameerto]

First post with "tick-tock" will earn virtual slap in the face.

Spoilsport!

[Beefymcfc]

That 2nd report seems very much the real deal rather than our media's way of pampering to the Rag fans, sugar-coating eveything in order to get the hits.

We get SSN showing every few hours over here and I thought I'd tune in to see what they had to say seeing that they had plenty on it pre-game. Alas, there was nothing said and even though they showed/reported various other friendlies, the Rags loss didn't get a mention.

[Peter Doherty (AGAIG)]

That 2nd report seems very much the real deal rather than our media's way of pampering to the Rag fans, sugar-coating eveything in order to get the hits.

We get SSN showing every few hours over here and I thought I'd tune in to see what they had to say seeing that they had plenty on it pre-game. Alas, there was nothing said and even though they showed/reported various other friendlies, the Rags loss didn't get a mention.

Where art thou?

[Beefymcfc]

That 2nd report seems very much the real deal rather than our media's way of pampering to the Rag fans, sugar-coating eveything in order to get the hits.

We get SSN showing every few hours over here and I thought I'd tune in to see what they had to say seeing that they had plenty on it pre-game. Alas, there was nothing said and even though they showed/reported various other friendlies, the Rags loss didn't get a mention.

Where art thou?

Kraut munchers and box-heads.

[CHOPPERmcfc]

Singha Allstars eh? Still plenty of time left in the transfer window to sign em up....

[Peter Doherty (AGAIG)]

That 2nd report seems very much the real deal rather than our media's way of pampering to the Rag fans, sugar-coating eveything in order to get the hits.

We get SSN showing every few hours over here and I thought I'd tune in to see what they had to say seeing that they had plenty on it pre-game. Alas, there was nothing said and even though they showed/reported various other friendlies, the Rags loss didn't get a mention.

Where art thou?

Kraut munchers and box-heads.

Lucky so-and-so. Got a soft spot for the Germans, especially their philosophers. North or south?

[Beefymcfc]

That 2nd report seems very much the real deal rather than our media's way of pampering to the Rag fans, sugar-coating eveything in order to get the hits.

We get SSN showing every few hours over here and I thought I'd tune in to see what they had to say seeing that they had plenty on it pre-game. Alas, there was nothing said and even though they showed/reported various other friendlies, the Rags loss didn't get a mention.

Where art thou?

Kraut munchers and box-heads.

Lucky so-and-so. Got a soft spot for the Germans, especially their philosophers. North or south?

Been out here a few times before and really get what they're about. I'm W-N-W, a few miles outside Dusseldorf near the boarder. Bit of a fucker being away but can't complain. I love this shit.

[Evenmydoghatesunited]

Been out here a few times before and really get what they're about. I'm W-N-W, a few miles outside Dusseldorf near the boarder. Bit of a fucker being away but can't complain. I love this shit.

Was in Berlin last week. Top city. Prob the capital city with the worst football teams in relation to the rest of the country or am I mistaken?

[Beefymcfc]

Been out here a few times before and really get what they're about. I'm W-N-W, a few miles outside Dusseldorf near the boarder. Bit of a fucker being away but can't complain. I love this shit.

Was in Berlin last week. Top city. Prob the capital city with the worst football teams in relation to the rest of the country or am I mistaken?

I'm not sure mate, never really checked. Been to Berlin a few times, usually travelling through though so no real stories from there. Will get to a few Dusseldorf games this season as well as a few to BvB. Not forgetting our games down in Munich, still trying to get freebies ;-)

[MilnersJaw]

I do like the way the BBC flat out refused to name the side instead mentioning a youngster and a new recruit in order to give us the impression it was entirely a B team/youth team. They failed to mention entirely that Ferdinand, Evans, Cleverley, Carrick, Anderson, Giggs and Welbeck all started with Evra, Jones and Rafael all coming off the bench. Zaha played all of 27 minutes and the story made it seem like he was leading the line amongst a bunch of kids.

well welback was definitely playing.

watch his skills in action.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... jkGccbrW1g

[Manc bluey]

I'm not surprised they lost with just Welshit up front cos he really is a shit striker if that's what you can him!

I can't really find the scum losing funny when we lost today! I haven't seen it so don't know if we deserved to lose but still not happy cos I know the scum press will still make us out to be dog shit.

[Chinners]

Wonder if anyone is so jubilent about the rags losing, a friendly ffs, now .... always comes back to bite your ass does this sort of bollox