Superbia wrote:Slow play and gutless performance still, so I think its clear to see that its the players kolorov, garcia, hart , milner, nasri, clichy are all guless bottlers that wouldnt even run through a paper wall, we might aswell of kept mancini as no manager is going to change their attitudes
Clowncrete wrote:Superbia wrote:Slow play and gutless performance still, so I think its clear to see that its the players kolorov, garcia, hart , milner, nasri, clichy are all guless bottlers that wouldnt even run through a paper wall, we might aswell of kept mancini as no manager is going to change their attitudes
All of those players you named were signed by Mancini except Hart. If he couldn't get his own signings going, then who can?
Superbia wrote:Slow play and gutless performance still, so I think its clear to see that its the players kolorov, garcia, hart , milner, nasri, clichy are all guless bottlers that wouldnt even run through a paper wall, we might aswell of kept mancini as no manager is going to change their attitudes
Benjay wrote:I just wonder if this group of players has reached a crossroads. Its like they came together to win the league and that has been accomplished. Is the "project" still there despite our failure at CL level? I dont think it is. I am not advocating ripping the team apart but some need to move on. Nasri, Kolorov and Hart spring to mind. Sunderland ran their arses off today. I wonder also if Manuel has achieved what ultimately he came here for - to bring harmony. Is the man to take us onto the next level or is it too early to promote Vieira. I dont know but our expensive squad is just not good enough.
Superbia wrote:Slow play and gutless performance still, so I think its clear to see that its the players kolorov, garcia, hart , milner, nasri, clichy are all guless bottlers that wouldnt even run through a paper wall, we might aswell of kept mancini as no manager is going to change their attitudes
roblues wrote:
I'm confused about the idea that Kolarov is a major reason for this. He is an asset in attack but only when there are plenty of willing runners in front that open up space. That didn't happen today, and you will rarely see him beat a man. Except when he beat 3 in the penalty area and almost made a goal.
As for Javi, as mentioned in the other thread, I thought he did well today.
guv111 wrote:Benjay wrote:I just wonder if this group of players has reached a crossroads. Its like they came together to win the league and that has been accomplished. Is the "project" still there despite our failure at CL level? I dont think it is. I am not advocating ripping the team apart but some need to move on. Nasri, Kolorov and Hart spring to mind. Sunderland ran their arses off today. I wonder also if Manuel has achieved what ultimately he came here for - to bring harmony. Is the man to take us onto the next level or is it too early to promote Vieira. I dont know but our expensive squad is just not good enough.
That's the enduring problem of starting off as a mid table side five or six years ago. We've had to bring in players the very top sides either didn't want or weren't interested in. We don't have a team of the standard of Barca, Real or Bayern, we have a team of second tier and third tier world players interspersed with a few drops of the genuinely highest quality. It's why Silva and Aguero are in the same team as also rans like Navas, Nasri, Demichelis and Milner.
gillie wrote:Yeah the same MDM that is head and shoulders our best defender now.Funny how MDM did'nt play under Mancini but most of the other's did so in essence was player revolt the real reason we lost the cup final? And is it the same reason we fucked up this season league wise?
Ted Hughes wrote:The similarity between Mancini & tonight, imo, is that last season we played Wigan at home & were dogshit & I figured he was uselsess tactuically & close to losing his influence on the team, & thus getting fired. Tonoght, Pellegrini seemed pathetic tactically & imo, like Mancini last season, is close to the exit door.
The bosses will need to see some powerful performances in the next 5 games imo. Otherwise they will kick him out. It's not about sacking him if we miss the title, it's about whether he will have the neccessary influence to get the team back on track for next season.
If we finish with a whimper, like last year, he will be gone.
Hazy2 wrote:I said it last season I say it again, nice is fine to a point, Rodgers and Jose have this season been hard in managing the likes of Sterling or berating the team in public. This bunch of soft twats are easy to get at and dot deal with any pressure . Mancini was not nice, winners tend not to be . Lost the dressing room, my arse they are lacking, and Mancini saw right through some of them.
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