john@staustell wrote:Trouble is he is constantly being out-thought by supposedly lesser managers with worse players
john@staustell wrote:Trouble is he is constantly being out-thought by supposedly lesser managers with worse players
mr_nool wrote:In the first official interview with Pep on the official site, he said that he hadn't prepared at all before starting his job at City - he wanted to start with a clean slate and without preconceptions.
I thought this sounded both very worrying and arrogant and voiced as much on here. However, the general consensus was that that was just something he said and that he would have been busy with assessing our squad and its strength and weaknesses and identifying possible transfer targets long before landing in Manchester.
But everything I've seen since then seems to point at Pep telling the truth in that interview. In other words, it's no wonder that he's been taken completely by surprise by the demands of the Premier League and by the weakness of our ageing squad.
As said above, I think this is quite arrogant and disrespectful to our club. When he went to Bayern he spent 6 months learning all he could about the club and German football, and even went the extra mile to learn the language. When he went here he was so sure of himself that he didn't do any homework at all?
Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:mr_nool wrote:In the first official interview with Pep on the official site, he said that he hadn't prepared at all before starting his job at City - he wanted to start with a clean slate and without preconceptions.
I thought this sounded both very worrying and arrogant and voiced as much on here. However, the general consensus was that that was just something he said and that he would have been busy with assessing our squad and its strength and weaknesses and identifying possible transfer targets long before landing in Manchester.
But everything I've seen since then seems to point at Pep telling the truth in that interview. In other words, it's no wonder that he's been taken completely by surprise by the demands of the Premier League and by the weakness of our ageing squad.
As said above, I think this is quite arrogant and disrespectful to our club. When he went to Bayern he spent 6 months learning all he could about the club and German football, and even went the extra mile to learn the language. When he went here he was so sure of himself that he didn't do any homework at all?
The first thing he did when he got here was to tell Hart to take his dandruff problem elsewhere. Hardly the actions of a man who didn't know anything about the club before he got here. I just think he over-estimated the quality in the squad, which would be a serious mistake given how shite our defence has been for a while now.
Original Dub wrote:He's definitely made mistakes, no doubt about it.
I'm not saying getting rid of Hart was a mistake on it's own, but getting rid of him immediately put a huge amount of pressure on the incoming guy and if you couple that with a new system and style of play, as well as a new defender and it all becomes very messy. We're seeing direct results of this right now.
As others have said, the most bemusing part of the last window was not addressing the full back positions and not getting a top striker in. You didn't need to work directly with the squad to know this was needed. I'm disappointed in him for this more so than anything else so far.
The thing is, he has worked directly with the squad now and he knows their shortcomings better than anyone. Some have tried to say he has had two windows to address the problems, but he hasn't in reality.
As I've said in other threads, I have it in my mind that he will be properly judged this time next year (unless there is a monumental collapse), with a full window to address the problems he has seen throughout the season.
If he still doesn't get it by then, he's not the right man for the job.
zabbadabbado wrote:We should have dominated football for the last 5 years laid the foundations for a dynasty.
Only City could win the League, and Cup, sack the best manager they ever had. Bring in 2 Spaniards. Write off success in the present, for a pipe dream of becoming Barcelona 2.0.We ruined last season Title chances, we haven’t got a Dog in hells chance of wining the title this season, and it looks like next season is also going to be “yes you guessed it ” another transition season.
It’s not about being a spoilt cunt. It’s about rightly being pissed off where we are at now, when it should have been so much different .All Mancini wanted to do, was sign decent players, take us to the next level. You look at the hundreds of millions we have spent on shit since he was shown the door. The fucking irony is Hart was first out the Door with Guardiola. Yet those Spanish cunts wouldn't back Mancini. Truth is they wanted Mancini gone. How could they get their Spanish mate through the Door, if Mancini lays the foundations for lasting success at City.
We fucked up big time. We have a DOF who has an uncanny eye for spotting a turd, He has dined on Mancini signings for 3 seasons. Whilst they were pulling him out the shit covering for his incompetence it was not a problem. Now the likes of Yaya,Silva,Zabba,VK are all to old to do it regular. The State of our squad is laid bare for all to see. The scary thing is the clueless cunt of DOF who has fucked us up for 3 seasons will be charged with getting it right even though he has consistently got it wrong.
There are no guarantees of success; we should have taken it when it was attainable
We sacrificed success chasing a pipe dream. Why couldn't we just be City ffs. Mancnii had already given us an identity
Personally I think the whole project is doomed to failure. We cant even get the recruitment right to play the way he wants to start with, that’s without taking in to account it would need a few transfer windows to buy nearly an entire team in the unlikely event he got every signing right. Then you have the compatibility of Pep style in the Premier League
I support City no matter what the future holds, I will get behind Guardiola whilst he is with us. In the short term I am worried about him walking out on us, thinking fuck it this job is too big. His sycophants will say not a chance I hope they are right because his body language is giving off all the wrong signals.
I agree.give me City of 2012 any day of the weekCity64 wrote:zabbadabbado wrote:We should have dominated football for the last 5 years laid the foundations for a dynasty.
Only City could win the League, and Cup, sack the best manager they ever had. Bring in 2 Spaniards. Write off success in the present, for a pipe dream of becoming Barcelona 2.0.We ruined last season Title chances, we haven’t got a Dog in hells chance of wining the title this season, and it looks like next season is also going to be “yes you guessed it ” another transition season.
It’s not about being a spoilt cunt. It’s about rightly being pissed off where we are at now, when it should have been so much different .All Mancini wanted to do, was sign decent players, take us to the next level. You look at the hundreds of millions we have spent on shit since he was shown the door. The fucking irony is Hart was first out the Door with Guardiola. Yet those Spanish cunts wouldn't back Mancini. Truth is they wanted Mancini gone. How could they get their Spanish mate through the Door, if Mancini lays the foundations for lasting success at City.
We fucked up big time. We have a DOF who has an uncanny eye for spotting a turd, He has dined on Mancini signings for 3 seasons. Whilst they were pulling him out the shit covering for his incompetence it was not a problem. Now the likes of Yaya,Silva,Zabba,VK are all to old to do it regular. The State of our squad is laid bare for all to see. The scary thing is the clueless cunt of DOF who has fucked us up for 3 seasons will be charged with getting it right even though he has consistently got it wrong.
There are no guarantees of success; we should have taken it when it was attainable
We sacrificed success chasing a pipe dream. Why couldn't we just be City ffs. Mancnii had already given us an identity
Personally I think the whole project is doomed to failure. We cant even get the recruitment right to play the way he wants to start with, that’s without taking in to account it would need a few transfer windows to buy nearly an entire team in the unlikely event he got every signing right. Then you have the compatibility of Pep style in the Premier League
I support City no matter what the future holds, I will get behind Guardiola whilst he is with us. In the short term I am worried about him walking out on us, thinking fuck it this job is too big. His sycophants will say not a chance I hope they are right because his body language is giving off all the wrong signals.
Fuck Barcelona !
We are a mess it needs sorting on and off the pitch and quickly !!!
zabbadabbado wrote:I agree.give me City of 2012 any day of the weekCity64 wrote:zabbadabbado wrote:We should have dominated football for the last 5 years laid the foundations for a dynasty.
Only City could win the League, and Cup, sack the best manager they ever had. Bring in 2 Spaniards. Write off success in the present, for a pipe dream of becoming Barcelona 2.0.We ruined last season Title chances, we haven’t got a Dog in hells chance of wining the title this season, and it looks like next season is also going to be “yes you guessed it ” another transition season.
It’s not about being a spoilt cunt. It’s about rightly being pissed off where we are at now, when it should have been so much different .All Mancini wanted to do, was sign decent players, take us to the next level. You look at the hundreds of millions we have spent on shit since he was shown the door. The fucking irony is Hart was first out the Door with Guardiola. Yet those Spanish cunts wouldn't back Mancini. Truth is they wanted Mancini gone. How could they get their Spanish mate through the Door, if Mancini lays the foundations for lasting success at City.
We fucked up big time. We have a DOF who has an uncanny eye for spotting a turd, He has dined on Mancini signings for 3 seasons. Whilst they were pulling him out the shit covering for his incompetence it was not a problem. Now the likes of Yaya,Silva,Zabba,VK are all to old to do it regular. The State of our squad is laid bare for all to see. The scary thing is the clueless cunt of DOF who has fucked us up for 3 seasons will be charged with getting it right even though he has consistently got it wrong.
There are no guarantees of success; we should have taken it when it was attainable
We sacrificed success chasing a pipe dream. Why couldn't we just be City ffs. Mancnii had already given us an identity
Personally I think the whole project is doomed to failure. We cant even get the recruitment right to play the way he wants to start with, that’s without taking in to account it would need a few transfer windows to buy nearly an entire team in the unlikely event he got every signing right. Then you have the compatibility of Pep style in the Premier League
I support City no matter what the future holds, I will get behind Guardiola whilst he is with us. In the short term I am worried about him walking out on us, thinking fuck it this job is too big. His sycophants will say not a chance I hope they are right because his body language is giving off all the wrong signals.
Fuck Barcelona !
We are a mess it needs sorting on and off the pitch and quickly !!!
PrezIke wrote:Rumour on BlueMoon that he will sign a contract extension this summer.
Nigels Tackle wrote:PrezIke wrote:Rumour on BlueMoon that he will sign a contract extension this summer.
of course he will
.....because it will mean a bigger pay off if he gets the boot.
Dameerto wrote:We still dont have enough leaders. We have Vinnie, and maybe Zabba (who is more of a lead by example guy than an in your face stop fucking around guy) - so some matches we have effectively no leader on the pitch. Look at the 'Invincibles' from yester year and they had leaders all over the place. It makes a huge difference when things go tits-up or the officials start screwing us around yet again.
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