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Re: East Manchester Investment

PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 1:08 pm
by Ted Hughes
lets all have a disco wrote:Basically,whatever the Sheikh builds is going to have to be pretty fucking special to get the crowds in.


I mean really fucking special.



It might be like when Bugsy Siegel built the 1st casino in Las Vegas; quiet at 1st then pretty lively around there in the years that followed. (Of course he didn't know that as he'd already been shot in a typical City style impatient knee jerk reaction)

Re: East Manchester Investment

PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 1:09 pm
by Crossie
I think we would build up, not out, with regards to a stadium expansion.

Re: East Manchester Investment

PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 3:28 pm
by john68
That would depend on whether the present foundations could safely take the extra weight of the extra building. If not, they would possibly have to build out and over as they have at the swamp.
Not a builder, so don't know any better.

Re: East Manchester Investment

PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 4:24 pm
by Guy Debord
It's good to see BDP on board. They have a track record in this area

http://www.bdp.com/Projects/By-Name/A-E ... nnis-Club/

Re: East Manchester Investment

PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 4:25 pm
by Feed The Goat
I'm gonna go with a big casino cos my missus heard someone on her work bus sayin it ages ago and the director of said bus company is peter barnes

Re: East Manchester Investment

PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 6:41 pm
by Bojinov's left foot
I'm sure I read that Belle Vue Aces speedway maybe having a re-development too. Not sure if the two would be related but it is good to hear that the East of Manchester is to benefit from redevelopment.

Re: East Manchester Investment

PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 9:08 pm
by Guy Debord
Bojinov's left foot wrote:I'm sure I read that Belle Vue Aces speedway maybe having a re-development too. Not sure if the two would be related but it is good to hear that the East of Manchester is to benefit from redevelopment.



http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthrea ... &t=1079185

Re: East Manchester Investment

PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 9:13 pm
by Alex Sapphire
Guy Debord wrote:
Bojinov's left foot wrote:I'm sure I read that Belle Vue Aces speedway maybe having a re-development too. Not sure if the two would be related but it is good to hear that the East of Manchester is to benefit from redevelopment.



http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthrea ... &t=1079185


also http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=436685&page=100

with input from a poster callled "jrb". our own?

Re: East Manchester Investment

PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 9:52 pm
by Guy Debord
Alex Sapphire wrote:
Guy Debord wrote:
Bojinov's left foot wrote:I'm sure I read that Belle Vue Aces speedway maybe having a re-development too. Not sure if the two would be related but it is good to hear that the East of Manchester is to benefit from redevelopment.



http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthrea ... &t=1079185


also http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=436685&page=100

with input from a poster callled "jrb". our own?


I was wondering whether jrb was you, as you used the same scans of Crains!

Re: East Manchester Investment

PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 6:03 am
by irblinx
Alex Sapphire wrote:The yellow bit (plus the patch to the north of it) is what Arup have applied for permission to do remedial work (preparation for a development) plus demolishing the visitor centre, it is 17 acres, I think.
The red is the area that Harrow was going to develop housing and is now rumoured to be discussing for the new training ground. that's 40odd acres

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The rumour about us using the CA site has been pretty persistant for the past 6 months but to be honest I don't think there is anything on that side of the road that wouldn't be susceptible to taking a developers money to shuffle off.

Interesting in that article that she talks about the CA site in particular and then refuses to comment on specific sites when they ask about City :-)

Re: East Manchester Investment

PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 7:56 am
by Ted Hughes
Feed The Goat wrote:I'm gonna go with a big casino cos my missus heard someone on her work bus sayin it ages ago and the director of said bus company is peter barnes


Peter Barnes is a director of a bus company? Well you learn something new everyday.

Re: East Manchester Investment

PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 2:27 am
by KinkyKinkladze
Alex Sapphire wrote:
Guy Debord wrote:
Bojinov's left foot wrote:I'm sure I read that Belle Vue Aces speedway maybe having a re-development too. Not sure if the two would be related but it is good to hear that the East of Manchester is to benefit from redevelopment.



http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthrea ... &t=1079185


also http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=436685&page=100

with input from a poster callled "jrb". our own?


It is indeed Jrb from here and Bluemong.

He's a good egg.

Re: East Manchester Investment

PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 2:33 pm
by Guy Debord
Residents around COMS had this posted through their letterboxes on Thursday:

"The Club is proposing an exciting new development to the north of the stadium (near to the tennis centre).

We have recently submitted a planning application to Manchester City Council, regarding the use of Joe Mercer Way and the North Plaza of the Sportcity site. Our proposal for this area is a concept called City Street, which is designed to enhance visitors experience to football matches and other events at Sportcity by creating an area for food, retail and entertainment.

The development of City Street will ease congestion in the area surrounding the Stadium before and after games/events and in addition will create a number of jobs. Our aim is that City Street is open and fully functioning for the 2010/11 season.

Over the next few weeks you can see the outline proposal for City Street in the MCFC retail store at Sportcity, where you can review the plans. Should you have any specific enquiries pleas contact me on the details below.

Many thanks for your time,

Phoebe Marshall
Project Manager
Manchester City Football Club
Sportcity
Rowsley Street
M11 3FF

e:phoebe.marshall@mcfc.co.uk
t:0161 438 7699"

Re: East Manchester Investment

PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 2:47 pm
by john68
I couldn't have asked for more....:-)

Re: East Manchester Investment

PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 2:57 pm
by Haz
Guy Debord wrote:Residents around COMS had this posted through their letterboxes on Thursday:

"The Club is proposing an exciting new development to the north of the stadium (near to the tennis centre).

We have recently submitted a planning application to Manchester City Council, regarding the use of Joe Mercer Way and the North Plaza of the Sportcity site. Our proposal for this area is a concept called City Street, which is designed to enhance visitors experience to football matches and other events at Sportcity by creating an area for food, retail and entertainment.

The development of City Street will ease congestion in the area surrounding the Stadium before and after games/events and in addition will create a number of jobs. Our aim is that City Street is open and fully functioning for the 2010/11 season.

Over the next few weeks you can see the outline proposal for City Street in the MCFC retail store at Sportcity, where you can review the plans. Should you have any specific enquiries pleas contact me on the details below.

Many thanks for your time,

Phoebe Marshall
Project Manager
Manchester City Football Club
Sportcity
Rowsley Street
M11 3FF

e:phoebe.marshall@mcfc.co.uk
t:0161 438 7699"


Blimey, they're gonna have to be quick, its only 5 months away.

Re: East Manchester Investment

PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 3:46 pm
by Guy Debord
A poster from Bluemoon called fbloke on the further development:

I have made dozens of calls, emailed people I know and got very little (as you will know from my posts).

The Council, NEM and MCFC have done an amazing job keeping this quiet and salute them, well done people.

However I have got some bits and pieces that when added together may at least whet our appetites. These include some educated guesses and to be honest its the best I can do for now.

1. There will be a tall structure as part of the plans (possibly more than one, but one eye-catching design)

2. Whatever happens will be family oriented and according to some on here NOT a casino.

3. The hotel will not be franchised or low rent, so no Holiday Inn Express or Travellodge - it is likely to be 4 or 5 star to take the quality of the area and the project upscale. City will own and run the hotel.

4. The destination will create many jobs and a training programme via Manchester College (Formally MANCAT) will be in place and include the PEARL Award (I am fully aware of this but will not say any more at present so DONT ask) and tie into the Manchester Standard - http://www.worldclassservice.co.uk/

5. There is a strong possibility that an iconic UK attraction will re-locate or have a sister site in Manchester -

Leeds has the Armoury
Tate Liverpool and Cornwall
Trafford has IWMN

I reckon we may well get a British Museum North, National Gallery North or a New Natural History Museum or V and A or perhaps even a mix of them all.

The Manchester Museum could relocate as well of course?

6. There could well be an extension to the current canal infrastructure with additional wharfs being added.

Whether that is for show or useable with a connection to the national canal network is not clear.

7. A Virtual Reality attraction is likely be in there and as I have good contacts at Teesside Un' as well as the Manchester Uni's I know for a fact that a feasibility study has been requested by an unnamed client.

Re: East Manchester Investment

PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 3:52 pm
by bobadji
isn't the football museum moving to Manchester? Could be that?

Re: East Manchester Investment

PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 5:59 pm
by ENIAM NAM
bobadji wrote:isn't the football museum moving to Manchester? Could be that?


That is moving to the Urbis in central Manchester.

Re: East Manchester Investment

PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 6:04 pm
by KinkyKinkladze
bobadji wrote:isn't the football museum moving to Manchester? Could be that?


They should've shoved it there, but instead they're putting it in Urbis. Which disgusts me really, Urbis was fucking brilliant.

Re: East Manchester Investment

PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 6:41 pm
by Bojinov's left foot
Work on City Street to be finished ready for 2010-11 season is a quick turnaround. Be interested to hear more about what the proposals may be. Might even pop down to City and have a look.