Ireland Speaks Out

[Nijinsky the Elder]

I am afraid this par for the course for Stevie Ireland. He was an average Premiership footballer but with an immature attitude and not much between his ears. Possibly if he had had a better mental attitude he would have been a much better player. His shenanigans with the Irish team, his self focused publicity with cars and houses weer all part of the person that is Stephen Ireland. Equally his immaturity at being 'ditched' by Mancini ... and don't let us be in any doubt he was ditched because Mancini didn't see him as consistent or good enough ... are just another example of his immaturity. He might start well for Villa but as sure as eggs are eggs after about half a season he will fade into an inconsistent Mr Average just like he became for us ..... that is unless he gets a brain graft.

[Crossie]

Villa fans dont seem to understand that Irelands only played will in the middle, behind the strikers.

He is NOT a holding midfielder, he isnt a left winger, and I once saw him play well on the right wing when we beat Westham 3-0 first home game of his glory season.

One of the Villa fans was wondering who to play upfront with Ireland...... he isnt a striker!! ffs!

Apparently Ashley Young has started the season as the attacking midfielder in the hole, so he's gonna be pisssed off if Ireland takes that position.

Some of them are wanking over how hard he trains..................... you wanna pay attention to Tevez!

[Wonderwall]

Villa fans dont seem to understand that Irelands only played will in the middle, behind the strikers.

He is NOT a holding midfielder, he isnt a left winger, and I once saw him play well on the right wing when we beat Westham 3-0 first home game of his glory season.

One of the Villa fans was wondering who to play upfront with Ireland...... he isnt a striker!! ffs!

Apparently Ashley Young has started the season as the attacking midfielder in the hole, so he's gonna be pisssed off if Ireland takes that position.

Some of them are wanking over how hard he trains..................... you wanna pay attention to Tevez!

Tevez is not a good trainer, you want to pay more attention to dougs reports

[Crossie]

I was being Ironic!!

Of course i know Tevez isnt a good trainer, Ireland is, but who would you rather have in your team!?

Point being it doesnt matter how well you train. It's on the pitch where it matters.

[maf]

I remember when he first broke into the team and Ned and Micah would sing his praises , talking about his incredible technique and skill on the ball , and it allways left me wondering why the hell didnt we see it on match day . Then for that one great season we saw what we hoped would be the real deal , vision passing and an endless energy , but that promise quickly faded and the excuses started . It's clear Ireland isn't the sharpest tool in the box , and now the clubs moved forward he couldnt keep up . The same fight and determination we see in players like Kompany just doesnt seem to be there in Ireland . Ireland cant play well outside his comfort zone it seems , and untill he can , that talent of his will allways have severe limitations .
I'm pissed off with his parting shots , but more than anything they strike me as an insecure player trying to convince himself hes made the right move . I wish he could have sorted his head out and reached his full potential with city , if he had , without doubt he would of been pushing those around him hard for a starting spot , but we all know he didnt and for that he has no-one but himself to blame . Good luck to you Stevie I hope you resurect your career at Villa , I won't be booing you when you return but I do have a feeling that a year from now we might be hearing those excuses again .

[Im_Spartacus]

I suppose for me its all about entertainment, and over the last couple of years, Bellamy and Ireland have provided an amazing amount of entertainment for me.

The fact they are disappointed to leave and say as much when they do leave won't take that away from me.

I've seen Richard Dunne being called a CUNT on here. Nobody else stands a fucking chance of being remembered fondly if that's the case.

Surely you mean "a year ago", Ireland gave you an amazing amount of entertainment?

He was not upto scratch, whether it be mentally or in terms of pure ability to adapt to different tactics, and hence he had to go. He has moved on, maybe you should too.

[TimberJoeysChainsaw]

Thanks [strike]Joey[/strike] Stevie!

[Kladze]

Now you have slung the rope around the tree, loaded ireland onto the horse, whacked its arse and left Ireland dangling to hang, Just take a moment to think whether there just might be a little grain of truth in what he has to say.
None of us likes to hear criticism of our beloved club and I, like you have defended City through thick and thin over many years. But some of this over emotional lynch mob crap is sickening to say the least.

First, none of us truly knows what has gone on inside the club. None of us truly knows what has been said by who to whom, when and why. I have followed this club for many years under some almost tragic regimes of stewardship and managership but I have never known the amount of mud slinging or criticism by fans or more importantly by leaving players.

All players when they leave have their own personal opinions and many have over the years voiced them. This time however some of those criticisms are being repeated. Tevez, Bellamy and Ireland have all complained about their relationship with Mancini or Mancini's relationship with the players. Each of those players are experienced pros and have been around the game for a long time. They would know.
I wonder if some of you can actually read the words then understand the meaning of what was written, or whether like sheep, when the first one goes baa, it becomes a contest to see who can baa the loudest. being a noisy sheep does not make you a better City supporter. Have any of you ever given your all in a job, then felt sidelined by the boss? Have any of you ever got to the point of feeling "I am wasting my time putting this effort in?" "No matter what I do, it will never be respected or appreciated." Have any of you ever got to the point of thinking "What's the fucking point?". I don't believe that Ireland never cared about this club. I do believe that there were times when he felt unwanted by the club and therefore detatched from the regime that controlled it.

What makes me so certain?...because only a couple of weeks ago, I had a lovely and heartfelt conversation with Stephen Ireland, we discussed a number of things, and I can assure all of you that he loves our club dearly but is gutted about some of the stuff that is going on with the present regime.

So he cares so much he feels the need to blab to a taxi driver?
He cares so much that he freely admits that he didn't care?
He cares so much that, having come on as a sub in one of the most important Manchester derbies in donkey's years, he stood and contentedly watched a player runoff him in the dying seconds to score the winner?
He cares so much that, given plenty of opportunity to show differently last season and this pre-season, he has shown NOTHING AT ALL?
He cares so much that upon leaving he takes a populist pop at the club - further fuelling the pens of the media enemies we have?
He cares so much that not even a word passed his lips about the people who HAVE supported him, even through the thin times?

I've already said it but I'll say it again.

"Bye Stevie. Most of the time you were shite".

[kennyboy]

My avatar is a joke.

[Original Dub]

I suppose for me its all about entertainment, and over the last couple of years, Bellamy and Ireland have provided an amazing amount of entertainment for me.

The fact they are disappointed to leave and say as much when they do leave won't take that away from me.

I've seen Richard Dunne being called a CUNT on here. Nobody else stands a fucking chance of being remembered fondly if that's the case.

Surely you mean "a year ago", Ireland gave you an amazing amount of entertainment?

He was not upto scratch, whether it be mentally or in terms of pure ability to adapt to different tactics, and hence he had to go. He has moved on, maybe you should too.

Listen John, I'm not sitting here in tears, I knew the kid was going for a long time, so lay off the patronising.

My point is that he is being lynched for displaying his disappointment at being forced out. How that compares to Robinho begging to leave at every opportunity is beyond me.

He was one of my two favourite players, but I've changed them over the years as I will again. The thing is, and it happened with Dunne as well (who in my mind is a club legend) - as soon as disappointment is aired, the player is a wanker. That's where my problem is. Not in his leaving.

I'm well over that.

[Grob]

Ireland sounds very bitter.

But, if he had played better, he would have stayed in the team and none of this would have happened.

[carl_feedthegoat]

I suppose for me its all about entertainment, and over the last couple of years, Bellamy and Ireland have provided an amazing amount of entertainment for me.

The fact they are disappointed to leave and say as much when they do leave won't take that away from me.

I've seen Richard Dunne being called a CUNT on here. Nobody else stands a fucking chance of being remembered fondly if that's the case.

Surely you mean "a year ago", Ireland gave you an amazing amount of entertainment?

He was not upto scratch, whether it be mentally or in terms of pure ability to adapt to different tactics, and hence he had to go. He has moved on, maybe you should too.

Listen John, I'm not sitting here in tears, I knew the kid was going for a long time, so lay off the patronising.

My point is that he is being lynched for displaying his disappointment at being forced out. How that compares to Robinho begging to leave at every opportunity is beyond me.

He was one of my two favourite players, but I've changed them over the years as I will again. The thing is, and it happened with Dunne as well (who in my mind is a club legend) - as soon as disappointment is aired, the player is a wanker. That's where my problem is. Not in his leaving.

I'm well over that.

He is being lynched for admitting he didnt "GIVE A FUCKING SHIT WIN OR LOSE" and funnily enough it fucking showed especially in the fucking bastard derby match.

I will lynch any cunt ..current or ex..for coming out with a statement like that one. !!

[Im_Spartacus]

I suppose for me its all about entertainment, and over the last couple of years, Bellamy and Ireland have provided an amazing amount of entertainment for me.

The fact they are disappointed to leave and say as much when they do leave won't take that away from me.

I've seen Richard Dunne being called a CUNT on here. Nobody else stands a fucking chance of being remembered fondly if that's the case.

Surely you mean "a year ago", Ireland gave you an amazing amount of entertainment?

He was not upto scratch, whether it be mentally or in terms of pure ability to adapt to different tactics, and hence he had to go. He has moved on, maybe you should too.

Listen John, I'm not sitting here in tears, I knew the kid was going for a long time, so lay off the patronising.

My point is that he is being lynched for displaying his disappointment at being forced out. How that compares to Robinho begging to leave at every opportunity is beyond me.

He was one of my two favourite players, but I've changed them over the years as I will again. The thing is, and it happened with Dunne as well (who in my mind is a club legend) - as soon as disappointment is aired, the player is a wanker. That's where my problem is. Not in his leaving.

I'm well over that.

Players can be as disappointed as they want, but if the manager doesn't want them because they don't rate them, tough shit, that's how football has worked at every level for over 100 years.

They all have considerable media training, and know full well they have a choice to comment on their transfer with dignity by saying "I thought I still had something to offer, but clearly the club felt different", or try to score cheap points in the media by going to town on the manager, chief exec and the fucking tea lady.

If they want to go down the cheap shots route, then they should expect the consequences, which will be criticism from some of your former fans. That's not a rag trait, that's a football fan's trait. In Stevie's case though, its a bit different when he has admitted he didn't give a shit about playing for city, which explains a hell of a lot over the course of the last year. That is simply inexcusable, unprofessional, and a kick in the teeth for every single one of us.

Stevie needs to get a grip and take responsibility for his own career/performances rather than trying to blame everyone else for his own shortcomings - which is exactly what Robinho does regularly hence the comparison, two gifted players with fucked up heads.

[Ted Hughes]

Why is a player begging to leave, any worse than a player who would rather stay but then admits to not caring if we won or lost unless he was playing & generally slates the club & warns off our new signing when he leaves?

The answer is; it's not. If one is a wanker, so is the other. If it was the other way around & it was Robinho who'd been 'forced out' & then slagged the club , the people backing Ireland now would be slaughtering Robinho for the same thing. If it was a personal thing with Mancini or Cook it would be fair enough but it's not, it's the whole club he's slaughtered without one word to the fans. No doubt his PR people will be telling him he needs to fix that in the coming days. It's too late.

He's out of order, end of story.

[Dameerto]

I remember when he first broke into the team and Ned and Micah would sing his praises , talking about his incredible technique and skill on the ball , and it allways left me wondering why the hell didnt we see it on match day . Then for that one great season we saw what we hoped would be the real deal , vision passing and an endless energy , but that promise quickly faded and the excuses started . It's clear Ireland isn't the sharpest tool in the box , and now the clubs moved forward he couldnt keep up . The same fight and determination we see in players like Kompany just doesnt seem to be there in Ireland . Ireland cant play well outside his comfort zone it seems , and untill he can , that talent of his will allways have severe limitations .
I'm pissed off with his parting shots , but more than anything they strike me as an insecure player trying to convince himself hes made the right move . I wish he could have sorted his head out and reached his full potential with city , if he had , without doubt he would of been pushing those around him hard for a starting spot , but we all know he didnt and for that he has no-one but himself to blame . Good luck to you Stevie I hope you resurect your career at Villa , I won't be booing you when you return but I do have a feeling that a year from now we might be hearing those excuses again .

You and me both.

[Geo123]

Anyone who comes on here thats not self employed and can say they never got frustrated if work wasnt going wel and lost interest in what happened to their company for a while is one in a million in my books.

His biggest fault in this interview was honesty

[colonel_muck]

I suppose for me its all about entertainment, and over the last couple of years, Bellamy and Ireland have provided an amazing amount of entertainment for me.

The fact they are disappointed to leave and say as much when they do leave won't take that away from me.

I've seen Richard Dunne being called a CUNT on here. Nobody else stands a fucking chance of being remembered fondly if that's the case.

Surely you mean "a year ago", Ireland gave you an amazing amount of entertainment?

He was not upto scratch, whether it be mentally or in terms of pure ability to adapt to different tactics, and hence he had to go. He has moved on, maybe you should too.

Listen John, I'm not sitting here in tears, I knew the kid was going for a long time, so lay off the patronising.

My point is that he is being lynched for displaying his disappointment at being forced out. How that compares to Robinho begging to leave at every opportunity is beyond me.

He was one of my two favourite players, but I've changed them over the years as I will again. The thing is, and it happened with Dunne as well (who in my mind is a club legend) - as soon as disappointment is aired, the player is a wanker. That's where my problem is. Not in his leaving.

I'm well over that.

He is being lynched for admitting he didnt "GIVE A FUCKING SHIT WIN OR LOSE" and funnily enough it fucking showed especially in the fucking bastard derby match.

I will lynch any cunt ..current or ex..for coming out with a statement like that one. !!

things like this really worry me though, last week robbie savage said he played a game for birmingham where he didn't try cos he wanted to join blackburn, and now this with stevie. there are so many egos in our team it is surely a very real danger that this is what we are faced with?

[Beefymcfc]

Villa fans dont seem to understand that Irelands only played will in the middle, behind the strikers.

He is NOT a holding midfielder, he isnt a left winger, and I once saw him play well on the right wing when we beat Westham 3-0 first home game of his glory season.

One of the Villa fans was wondering who to play upfront with Ireland...... he isnt a striker!! ffs!

Apparently Ashley Young has started the season as the attacking midfielder in the hole, so he's gonna be pisssed off if Ireland takes that position.

Some of them are wanking over how hard he trains..................... you wanna pay attention to Tevez!

Tevez is not a good trainer, you want to pay more attention to dougs reports

I think that's what he was saying mate.

[Nutzer]

It's funny.. when I first decided to follow City, years ago, we as fans were happy to even compete with the big boys. We took pride in our Academy hopes, and blue collar attitude. And during that time, I emotionally, and erroneously formed an opinion that English fans were sophisticated and knowledgeable about their sport, than Americans were about their sports (e.g. American football, baseball, basketball).

Boy was I wrong.

As it turns out, English fans can be just as myopic, vitriolic, and STUPID as we "Yanks", and this thread proves it 100-fold.

You fools read Ireland's statements, but refuse to understand. There is more to what he is saying than penetrates you pint-guzzling, mince-pie eating fat-arses. Instead, you'd rather rip on his physical appearance; twist his words on how he was treated; or attempt to create a false argument concerning his opinion of money and young players. (Here is a hint for your dense bastards: Just because Stevie has some "bling", doesn't invalidate that many young players are morons when it comes to managing their new-found riches)

I've got news for you, you self confessed "myopic, vitriolic and STUPID Yank". We English fans didn't DECIDE to follow City, we just do because we love the club. I've loved this club for a very long time and I do not appreciate being called a "dense bastard", a "pint-guzzling, mince-pie eating fat-arse" because I feel aggrieved that a player leaving took our money but neither produced the goods nor cared that he didn't.
P.S. That's an example of how to state your opinion without resorting to name-calling, other than quoting you.

[Kladze]

It's funny.. when I first decided to follow City, years ago, we as fans were happy to even compete with the big boys. We took pride in our Academy hopes, and blue collar attitude. And during that time, I emotionally, and erroneously formed an opinion that English fans were sophisticated and knowledgeable about their sport, than Americans were about their sports (e.g. American football, baseball, basketball).

Boy was I wrong.

As it turns out, English fans can be just as myopic, vitriolic, and STUPID as we "Yanks", and this thread proves it 100-fold.

You fools read Ireland's statements, but refuse to understand. There is more to what he is saying than penetrates you pint-guzzling, mince-pie eating fat-arses. Instead, you'd rather rip on his physical appearance; twist his words on how he was treated; or attempt to create a false argument concerning his opinion of money and young players. (Here is a hint for your dense bastards: Just because Stevie has some "bling", doesn't invalidate that many young players are morons when it comes to managing their new-found riches)

I've got news for you, you self confessed "myopic, vitriolic and STUPID Yank". We English fans didn't DECIDE to follow City, we just do because we love the club. I've loved this club for a very long time and I do not appreciate being called a "dense bastard", a "pint-guzzling, mince-pie eating fat-arse" because I feel aggrieved that a player leaving took our money but neither produced the goods nor cared that he didn't.
P.S. That's an example of how to state your opinion without resorting to name-calling, other than quoting you.

<<Makes mental not not to mess with Nutzer ;-) >>

BTW Nutzer , change the font colour - it's almost unreadable.






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