Rag post of the day

[King Kev]

@ Dario 2739, are you an imbecile or simply pissed? I was less than 6 years old in 1949 and we have been talking about English NOT Italian football of which I never had any interest in until the mid eighties. No comparison whatsoever idiot!

Yeah Dario you idiot! Why didn't you know that Frank only developed an interest in Italian football in the mid eighties and is completely oblivious/disinterested in any tragedies that have affected other (less successful) clubs!?

Idiot!

[spiv]

I have been posting on messageboards for about 13 years now, in that time I have NEVER posted on a scum site! Why? because I am not bitter and obsessed with them.

Is it time to get rid of this tedious fucler now?

Just say the word folks.

No, not yet.

No worries, you remind me of my cat when he has caught a bird and plays with it for a while before he kills it.

Have fun.

I am sure i was at wembley in 1969, he is trying to wipe that from my memory.

[Cikku]

[quote9secondlegend "i too hope you have a shit new year ..no life . i detest you, you fucking piece of shit. i bet your dad was a rapist you son of a bastard convict][/quote]

[quoteKing Kev "Is it time to get rid of this tedious fucler now? Just say the word folks"][/quote]

Citeh fans must be so proud of fans like these!

[Cikku]

Yeah Dario you idiot! Why didn't you know that Frank only developed an interest in Italian football in the mid eighties and is completely oblivious/disinterested in any tragedies that have affected other (less successful) clubs!?

@ King Kev, were you even born in 1949? More to the point, do you have any idea where Turin is? Here's a clue, it's nowhere near Stockport

[spiv]

We were all out there two weeks ago getting lashed in the 1840 Huntsman.

[Cikku]

How can you guys be so thick? This has been going on for more than three days now. All you're doing is driving more Citeh fans to our Manchester United blog! Many thanks -:)

[spiv]

I'm not going on your blog, bollox to your blog.

[Swales4ever]

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Don't mind Cikku_ Pet, there will always be a Manchester Football Club to sing for. Not really here since 1880. [/scroll]

[Cikku]

Hey spiv, in case you change your mind and want to join your Citeh mates, you're welcome. You may even be converted to Big League Manchester football - http://www.trulyreds.com/

[spiv]

Pah,, no chance.
Once a blue always a blue,, an all that.

[Cikku]

spiv I had every intention of getting out of here because it was getting boring but I'm beginning to wonder. Joining Brian Kidd as a Ferguson double agent at Eastland could be the way to go.

[spiv]

spiv I had every intention of getting out of here because it was getting boring

Then why are you still here?
Try rag tissue,,

[Ted Hughes]

How can you guys be so thick? This has been going on for more than three days now. All you're doing is driving more Citeh fans to our Manchester United blog! Many thanks -:)

Now we're completely demoralised.

I noticed you gave me all that flannel to explain your sad commemts & then off you go again spewing out more of them. The sad thing for people like yourself is that throughout your lives, you've been brainwashed into thinking that there's some kind of magic that means Utd are unique & nobody can ever compare to them. The media like to push that angle whenever possible so it's understandable in a way; Utd used to have the league won in the media at the start of every season, before Liverpool eventually won it in reality each time. That's why you hate them so much.

Pre Munich, Utd were one club competing amongst others, when a series of circumstances came together to push them into a period of success with public support, including from many City fans who cried on the streets after the disaster & even went to watch them on alternate weeks. That level of success ended for a while but then it happened again with the invention of the Premier League & then from a position of financial strength from tv money, that made competition difficult for many clubs; was boosted beyond imagination by the cosy cartel that is the Champion's League. Designed purely to keep so called 'elite' clubs at the top by financially boosting them & giving them worldwide exposure, taking them further & further away from the others each season. This is the time when utd's 'support' hugely increased.

A different set of circumstances now exist & a period of change is underway. The competition you've tried to eradicate is coming back & as time goes on, it's going to bite you on the arse & eventually, in time, it will often devour you.

Competition is here to stay & it's going to be an interesting experience to which you will soon have to acclimatize & it will last for for the rest of your life.

[Swales4ever]

spiv I had every intention of getting out of here because it was getting boring but I'm beginning to wonder. Joining Brian Kidd as a Ferguson double agent at Eastland could be the way to go.

Mind to OUR DOUBLE AGENTS... They are already making You pay about 15+ pct interest on their vices...
Pretty clear that a Gent like Kiddo had enough of the filth at the swamp. Now he can breath freely and we love his great competence and professionalism.

Tic / Toc...

[Cikku]

that there's some kind of magic that means Utd are unique & nobody can ever compare to them

Guess what Ted Hughes, you hit the nail right on the head. No English team can!

[halnone]

United are in decline. City are on the way up. That's really all I have to say. Hopefully United will stay relatively competitive though, because when we start beating the rag bastards ever year I want it to mean more.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

Ok guys, I had logged out of here with no intention of returning because wasting my time on a Citeh site is not really my cup of tea, there are far more interesting things online. I then got an email saying that some messages have been posted which got me curious enough to have a look at them. I still have no intention of remaining but there appears to be disbelief that somebody in Australia during the 50's and 60's could become a committed fan of United or for that matter, any other club in England. Without turning it into a history lesson, I will tell you as briefly as I can manage.

I was a 12 year old football mad kid in Malta when my family migrated to Australia in 1956 without having any particular interest in any English club. Football coverage was virtually non existent over here at the time apart from the results and tables in the Monday papers. Oh yes, the FA Cup final was broadcast live on radio every year and that was about it. There were plenty of English football publications in newsagents however which were the only ones that could satisfy my football interest. Some of you must remember the old Charles Buchan's Football Monthly which I began to get regularly. I still have the old, tattered and faded collection stored away with the first issue I got hold of was from memory around August 1958 with a young Bobby Charlton on the cover.

There were also the old Roy of the Rovers and Tiger comics which had a lot of football content. Our local library was also well stocked with books from the likes of Billy Wright, Nat Lofthouse, Annuals and many others. In the early sixties World Soccer magazine came along which to me bacame like a football bible, it's another collection which is still stored away. Then came the weekly Shoot, Match and other weekly magazines which became must reads.

Somebody mentioned newspapers. You may not know it but in those days, the Daily Mirror used to bind all the weeks seven daily issues and ship them to newsagents in Australia. Yes, they were nearly three months behind the issue date but I still got a kick from reading about what was going on in English football.

So now we come to how Manchester United came into the life of a 14 year old kid and like so many others it was obviously because of Munich. I did not follow any particular club at that stage and such a tragedy has a profound effect on a young kid. If that happened to any other club, I just may be one of their fans today. If not for Munich, something else may have happened which could have attracted my support. A number of English clubs toured Australia in the early sixties amongst them Everton, Chelsea and yes even Manchester City and I could have turned towards one of them had I not already committed myself to United. It's difficult to comprehend how anyone can think that someone who began following a club at a time when their team was ripped apart by tragedy can be labeled a 'plastic fan' and a 'glory hunter'. Can it possibly make any sort of sense?

My support was reinforced in the summer of 1967 when United made an Australian tour. I somehow managed to sneak my way into a Sydney airport reception for them while in transit to Brisbane. There I was talking and mingling with idols like Busby, Law, Charlton, Best, Crerand and even an 18 year old unknown Brian Kidd. There was never going to be any other club for me after that even through the long barren period. Yes success, live TV, videos, the internet and a couple of visits to Old Trafford followed over the years which only consolidated my support.

Finally, this post has gone on for longer than I wanted it to but really, why do so many find it so hard to understand that fierce support for a club can be generated in many and varied ways irrespective of where you may be living?

Fair play to your answer. Although there were minor issues with facts (Match only started around 1980.... I know this because when I started reading it around 1985 I think they were on volume 5), I found it quite interesting.

However, that comment you made pisses me off the most and is the reason why some Blues prefer to call your lot Munichs (let's not enter into argument whether it's right or wrong). There WAS another team with similar tragedy. Everyone in all-conquering A.C.Torino team died 1949 air crash ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superga_air_disaster ). While widely forgotten, lot of football historians consider them to be the best Club side ever alongside maybe Real Madrid of late-50's. Now if I'm right, you would've been around six or seven at the time. That's roughly the age I started following City (not a slanging contest, what I mean is that you would've been old enough to follow football). It's fair to say that Torino never recovered and found their former glories. They chose to mourn in quiet showing respect to families of the players. United on the other hand chose to make Munich Air disaster a global marketing campaign and build their/your Club around the folklore of the horrible disaster. Whereas Torino held charity game for the players in immediate aftermath, first time united financially recognised the families of Munich air disaster was few years ago. That's how far they took their greed.

[markuse]

Fair play to your answer. Although there were minor issues with facts (Match only started around 1980.... I know this because when I started reading it around 1985 I think they were on volume 5), I found it quite interesting.

However, that comment you made pisses me off the most and is the reason why some Blues prefer to call your lot Munichs (let's not enter into argument whether it's right or wrong). There WAS another team with similar tragedy. Everyone in all-conquering A.C.Torino team died 1949 air crash ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superga_air_disaster ). While widely forgotten, lot of football historians consider them to be the best Club side ever alongside maybe Real Madrid of late-50's. Now if I'm right, you would've been around six or seven at the time. That's roughly the age I started following City (not a slanging contest, what I mean is that you would've been old enough to follow football). It's fair to say that Torino never recovered and found their former glories. They chose to mourn in quiet showing respect to families of the players. United on the other hand chose to make Munich Air disaster a global marketing campaign and build their/your Club around the folklore of the horrible disaster. Whereas Torino held charity game for the players in immediate aftermath, first time united financially recognised the families of Munich air disaster was few years ago. That's how far they took their greed.

Dario mentioned it already and has been called names by him Antti, and that's funny because he claim not to know about Superga even though he's been interested in Italian football since the mid-80's, while almost everyone who takes some interest in football (not Italian but European) knows about the Grande Torino, possibly one of the top 3 all-time sides, but still not known to him.

And the way Torino, its supporters and the whole city dealt with this tragedy is very different from the scum's, and that's why even Juventus supporters I know are very much sympathetics towards Torino's fans aged 60+ despite the heated rivalry between them

[King Kev]

Yeah Dario you idiot! Why didn't you know that Frank only developed an interest in Italian football in the mid eighties and is completely oblivious/disinterested in any tragedies that have affected other (less successful) clubs!?

@ King Kev, were you even born in 1949? More to the point, do you have any idea where Turin is? Here's a clue, it's nowhere near Stockport

What has that got to do with anything you senile old twat!? I don't claim to support Turin do I??

You really are embarressing yourself now Frankie Boy.

[Ted Hughes]

that there's some kind of magic that means Utd are unique & nobody can ever compare to them

Guess what Ted Hughes, you hit the nail right on the head. No English team can!

...and once again; 'my dad is bigger than your dad'.

ANY dialogue with a rag ends this way. It's the only real reason you're here & we all knew it from the start. That's what makes Utd unique; you are the biggest bunch of wankers in the world. The one title nobody will ever take from you.


Truly pathetic.