Bridge'srightfoot wrote:Several on here are eating humble pie, a couple even said in a thread earlier in the season that they never wanted to see him play for us again... Proving everyone wrong and getting better by the week. Well played Aleks.
Mase wrote:Bridge'srightfoot wrote:Several on here are eating humble pie, a couple even said in a thread earlier in the season that they never wanted to see him play for us again... Proving everyone wrong and getting better by the week. Well played Aleks.
Where the hell have you been while I've been fighting his corner since day one?! You can't just come along and steam in and pretend you've always liked him. He's my man. Just keep your eyes to yourself!
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:Mase wrote:Bridge'srightfoot wrote:Several on here are eating humble pie, a couple even said in a thread earlier in the season that they never wanted to see him play for us again... Proving everyone wrong and getting better by the week. Well played Aleks.
Where the hell have you been while I've been fighting his corner since day one?! You can't just come along and steam in and pretend you've always liked him. He's my man. Just keep your eyes to yourself!
I've always thought he was better than people gave him credit for. As you can see by the Dzeko thread and at games, our fans need a boo boy to take their anger out on and this was often Kolarov.
I've always liked him because he is capable of moments of magic. That cross to Dzeko in the League cup semi final two seasons ago was honestly one of the best crosses I've ever seen. Clichy couldn't do that, Clichy couldn't have scored the goal Kolarov did yesterday and Kolarov's put in more good crosses this season than Clichy did in the previous two.
Clichy really benefited from Mancini's rigid structure but Kolarov is really benefiting from Pellegrini's attacking tactics. He's played a huge part for us this season, setting up many goals and already scoring 3 for us. He's not perfect no and he still remains suspect defensively but he is now imo firmly established as our first choice left back.
Ted Hughes wrote:Bridge'srightfoot wrote:Mase wrote:Bridge'srightfoot wrote:Several on here are eating humble pie, a couple even said in a thread earlier in the season that they never wanted to see him play for us again... Proving everyone wrong and getting better by the week. Well played Aleks.
Where the hell have you been while I've been fighting his corner since day one?! You can't just come along and steam in and pretend you've always liked him. He's my man. Just keep your eyes to yourself!
I've always thought he was better than people gave him credit for. As you can see by the Dzeko thread and at games, our fans need a boo boy to take their anger out on and this was often Kolarov.
I've always liked him because he is capable of moments of magic. That cross to Dzeko in the League cup semi final two seasons ago was honestly one of the best crosses I've ever seen. Clichy couldn't do that, Clichy couldn't have scored the goal Kolarov did yesterday and Kolarov's put in more good crosses this season than Clichy did in the previous two.
Clichy really benefited from Mancini's rigid structure but Kolarov is really benefiting from Pellegrini's attacking tactics. He's played a huge part for us this season, setting up many goals and already scoring 3 for us. He's not perfect no and he still remains suspect defensively but he is now imo firmly established as our first choice left back.
Only because Clichy has gone shit imo.
Kolarov is certainly playing much better than he was, but he is now similar to Clichy defensively because he has improved & Clichy has dropped alarmingly.
Both are fairly shit at it but tbf to Kolarov; in the 2nd half v Swansea, he did actually start to look like a proper defender.
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:Ted Hughes wrote:Bridge'srightfoot wrote:Mase wrote:Bridge'srightfoot wrote:Several on here are eating humble pie, a couple even said in a thread earlier in the season that they never wanted to see him play for us again... Proving everyone wrong and getting better by the week. Well played Aleks.
Where the hell have you been while I've been fighting his corner since day one?! You can't just come along and steam in and pretend you've always liked him. He's my man. Just keep your eyes to yourself!
I've always thought he was better than people gave him credit for. As you can see by the Dzeko thread and at games, our fans need a boo boy to take their anger out on and this was often Kolarov.
I've always liked him because he is capable of moments of magic. That cross to Dzeko in the League cup semi final two seasons ago was honestly one of the best crosses I've ever seen. Clichy couldn't do that, Clichy couldn't have scored the goal Kolarov did yesterday and Kolarov's put in more good crosses this season than Clichy did in the previous two.
Clichy really benefited from Mancini's rigid structure but Kolarov is really benefiting from Pellegrini's attacking tactics. He's played a huge part for us this season, setting up many goals and already scoring 3 for us. He's not perfect no and he still remains suspect defensively but he is now imo firmly established as our first choice left back.
Only because Clichy has gone shit imo.
Kolarov is certainly playing much better than he was, but he is now similar to Clichy defensively because he has improved & Clichy has dropped alarmingly.
Both are fairly shit at it but tbf to Kolarov; in the 2nd half v Swansea, he did actually start to look like a proper defender.
I think Clichy is badly lacking in confidence but I also really don't think he suits our style of play. Pellegrini clearly likes his fullbacks to get forward and attack. Clichy simply isn't capable of this. He worked well in a settled defence under Mancini when anything he did going forward was regarded as a bonus. This year though he's being asked to get forward a lot more and almost play like a wingback.
Kolarov has thrived under this. We all knew he wasn't the best defensively but was great going forward.
It is good and exciting for the game imo that fullbacks are now more and more being seen as part of the attack first and defence second.
Tokyo Blue wrote:I don't think Clichy has been properly fit all season.
Kolarov has done well.
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:He scored winner which is great. But he can NOT defend consistently.
Ted said it best, Clichy has had shocking drop of form while Kolarov has raised his close to his max potential and now they are about the same. I don't know if Clichy is the long term answer but Kolarov certainly isn't.
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:He scored winner which is great. But he can NOT defend consistently.
Ted said it best, Clichy has had shocking drop of form while Kolarov has raised his close to his max potential and now they are about the same. I don't know if Clichy is the long term answer but Kolarov certainly isn't.
Alioune DVToure wrote:
How do you know what his maximum potential is?
Original Dub wrote:Alioune DVToure wrote:
How do you know what his maximum potential is?
Brilliant
Alioune DVToure wrote:
Reading between the lines, he's saying:
'If he continues to improve at the same rate, I'll be faced with a bit of a climbdown. Since I'm never wrong, that can't and won't happen.'
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:As much as I do like Kolarov though I still think we better snap Luke Shaw up before someone else does. Young, English, very attacking so he fits our system well.
I really feel he'll be a star so hope we get him before Chelsea, Rags, Liverpool or Spurs do.
If we do though, then I think that will be Clichy out the door- he certainly wouldn't want to be 3rd choice.
Original Dub wrote:Bridge'srightfoot wrote:As much as I do like Kolarov though I still think we better snap Luke Shaw up before someone else does. Young, English, very attacking so he fits our system well.
I really feel he'll be a star so hope we get him before Chelsea, Rags, Liverpool or Spurs do.
If we do though, then I think that will be Clichy out the door- he certainly wouldn't want to be 3rd choice.
What has english got to do with it?
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