Robinho to Santos on loan seems nailed on

[Beeks]

Not another Marquee.

Hahahaha ignorance is bliss apparently Ted ;-)

No. I have the skull of the Marquis de Sade behind some drywall in the attic.

At least you show some in-tent

[Ted Hughes]

Not another Marquee.

Hahahaha ignorance is bliss apparently Ted ;-)

No. I have the skull of the Marquis de Sade behind some drywall in the attic.

At least you show some in-tent

I just don't want us tipi anymore money away.

[13021J]

From The Times January 25, 2010

Robinho '90 per cent certain' to join Santos from Manchester City

Robinho believes he is "90 per cent certain" to leave Manchester City and join Santos on loan, 16 months after his arrival in a British-record £34.2 million move.

Roberto Mancini, the City manager, claimed after yesterday’s 4-2 win away to Scunthorpe United in the FA Cup fourth round that he expects Robinho to stay and that he was not aware of any possible move. But behind the public statements, the Italian has told the club’s hierarchy that he is prepared to allow the Brazil forward to leave.

Robinho confirmed talks were ongoing and that he expected to complete the move in the coming days.

"It's all on the right track," he told a Brazilian television network. "Santos are looking at the duration of my loan. Santos want a year, but City want just six months. It's 90 per cent certain. In two or three days it should be sealed."

Santos intend to offer City first refusal on two of their most promising youngsters, Neymar and Paulo Henrique Ganso, while Benfica, whose bid is less advanced, may offer a deal involving Ángel de María, their Argentina winger.

Several of Robinho’s many advisers have travelled to England to arrange his departure, while Luiz Álvaro de Oliveira Ribeiro, the president of Santos, has said that he expects to meet a City delegation in London tomorrow

"They want the first choice to buy the two boys," Ribeiro said. "That does not bother us because we sell the players for the best offer. If City have the conditions to match the offer, they can have the players."

The decision to allow Robinho to leave was reached on the basis that he is not likely to be a regular member of his first team and because he is unhappy in Manchester, a loan move may be best for all parties.

The 25-year-old began his career at Santos, playing over 100 matches for them before leaving to join Real Madrid in 2005.


This is interesting! A nice swap might work out well I think!!!

[avoidconfusion]

I'd snatch their hands off for Di Maria!

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

Happy birthday Robinho.

[carl_feedthegoat]

IM NEVER PUTTING ANOTHER PLAYERS NAME ON A SHIRT.
FACT.

[ENIAM NAM]

Not another Marquee.

You don't think that's the way our owner will be thinking?

[Beeks]

Not another Marquee.

You don't think that's the way our owner will be thinking?

waaaaaaaay over the head

*swoosh*

[ENIAM NAM]

Not another Marquee.

You don't think that's the way our owner will be thinking?

waaaaaaaay over the head

*swoosh*

FFS - I get the tent thing IBH. Give me some credit!!

I just think Ted also meant he doesn't want another big name signing.

[Beeks]

Not another Marquee.

You don't think that's the way our owner will be thinking?

waaaaaaaay over the head

*swoosh*

FFS - I get the tent thing IBH. Give me some credit!!

I just think Ted also meant he doesn't want another big name signing.

I think you're way off the marque......or mark...whatever floats your boat...the english language huh? Overrated IMO

[ENIAM NAM]

Not another Marquee.

You don't think that's the way our owner will be thinking?

waaaaaaaay over the head

*swoosh*

FFS - I get the tent thing IBH. Give me some credit!!

I just think Ted also meant he doesn't want another big name signing.

I think you're way off the marque......or mark...whatever floats your boat...the english language huh? Overrated IMO

Well lets let him pitch up with his own answer eh!!

[Ted Hughes]

Well lets let him pitch up with his own answer eh!!

I was purely in the comedy camp.

[ENIAM NAM]

Well lets let him pitch up with his own answer eh!!

I was purely in the comedy camp.

OK. Missed your vocation in the big top! :)

[Nick]

WTF i feel sorry for him but why the fuck would he want to go and play for a pub team with all his bollocks about AMBITION and being the BEST PLAYER in the world, telling us that he couldnt do that at city, oh but he can at fucking santos?!

What do we get out of the deal?
Why the fuck would we be made to pay some of his wages?!?! there getting a 32 million pounder for nearly nothing.

Id rather loan him somewhere decent like barca to keep his value up. Hitting form and fitness in brazil doesnt really prove much and I doubt hed wanna come back to england.

Hes pissed me off. We mobbed him yesterday yet he still doesnt give a fuck.

Im also annoyed at the press and the minority of fans that have a go at him for minor things, then big him up when he does nothing. I have always been in the middle. He has the talent, I believe his heart was in it (at first anyway) and just needed encouragement.

What also annoys me is how MH felt pressured to play him and got alot of stick when he didnt play him or didnt ''handle him correctly'', yet mancio seems to have failed with him in just a few weeks!!!!!!!

[Nick]

Also why the fuck have we just made our attacking threat from the bench non existant before the biggest game of my life time?!?!

its just typical city isnt it. No replacement. Id rather have a half arsed robinho on the bench at old trafford than no1.

No weiss, no robinho.

You could say that we need players who to defend but im 110% united will score and if mancini thinks he can try and hang on were fucked. So if they get early momentum and score 1 or even a couple wtf do we do? bring a messed up ade or ireland on?!

[zuricity]

Also why the fuck have we just made our attacking threat from the bench non existant before the biggest game of my life time?!?!

its just typical city isnt it. No replacement. Id rather have a half arsed robinho on the bench at old trafford than no1.

No weiss, no robinho.

You could say that we need players who to defend but im 110% U***d will score and if mancini thinks he can try and hang on were fucked. So if they get early momentum and score 1 or even a couple wtf do we do? bring a messed up ade or ireland on?!

I reckon it's all a load of bollocks and that Mancini will put Robinho, Toure and Adebayor on the bench on wednesday night, once we dominate the first half , go ahead and then wheel the stars out,to turn it on in the show at Old Trafford.

[Tokyo Blue]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/footbal ... 477878.stm

kevin fucking parker?

The City fans I saw on Sunday night at Scunthorpe looked like they really, desperately wanted to see the back of him, as they hugged him and chanted his name.

Stick to chauffeuring Lady Penelope.

[Mark (Blue Army)]

CITY TELL ROBINHO: YOU WILL GO WHEN WE SAY

MANCHESTER City have told Robinho: You will only leave on our terms, not yours.

The under-performing £160,000-a- week superstar is pushing for a loan move back to his first club, Santos.

However, City insist their prima donna £32.5m record signing will stay unless a club stumps up around £30m to buy him or agrees to pay his astronomical wages.

And neither of those options looks likely for a player who has let himself down badly this season. “It’s all on the right track,” Robinho told a Brazilian TV station yesterday. “Santos are looking at the duration of my loan. Santos want a year, but City want just six months. It’s 90 per cent certain. In two or three days it should be sealed.”

But that was not the message emerging from Eastlands, where coach Roberto Mancini is under no pressure to let the former Real Madrid winger go.

City, owned by mega-rich Sheikh Mansour, of Abu Dhabi, do not need to offload their stop-go star for financial reasons. And Mancini, who famously brought Robinho on and then off at Everton a week last Saturday, knows he holds all the aces.

If, as Robinho says, he wants to play regularly in order to pin down his place for Brazil at the World Cup this summer, it is up to him to start performing. Suggestions that City would be willing to go on paying a large slice of his huge pay packet while loaned out don’t make sense.

Why would City pay for him to play for somebody else? The Blues’ attitude is: If another club wants him, he can go, provided they pay all the costs. If not, he stays and stands or falls by the effort he puts in. Although Santos appear to be the only club in the frame, they clearly do not have the money to cover Robinho’s staggering pay packet.

Santos president Luis Alvaro Ribeiro claimed that one possibility for a deal is that City would get first refusal on talented youngsters Paulo Henrique Ganso and Neymar.

He said: “They want the first choice to buy the two boys. That does not bother us because we sell the players for the best offer. If City have the conditions to match the offer, they can have the players.”

The fact is that Robinho himself holds the key to his World Cup plans and his whole future – by starting to produce his top form regularly. The 25-year-old progressed through the ranks at Santos and played more than 100 matches before leaving to join Real Madrid in 2005.

At the Bernabeu, as at City, he quickly became a fringe figure, operating too often from the bench for a player of his reputation and undoubted class. Benfica are also said to be interested in taking him on loan, but City are in no rush to lose Robinho.

“What’s important is to be happy,” said the Brazilian star. “Money is not everything. First thing is that I am going through a bad period. Mancini said that I would play one game and not in another. I didn’t accept that and told him so."

"It’s a World Cup year. The directors all agree that it’s better to send me out on loan. It would be exceptional to return to Santos.” Robinho, whose goal at Scunthorpe in the FA Cup on Sunday was his first for eight months, is fortunate not to have been publicly criticised by Mancini.

The Italian is understood to have told Robinho he would be first choice if he lived up to his billing as one of the world’s best forwards. But, so far, there has been no sign of that. Though talks between Santos and the club are scheduled for today in London, Mancini feels the player will still be with the Blues on Monday when the transfer window closes.

“I think he will stay here,” said the former Inter manager. He’s a top player and I want him to stay but he has to work hard. He has good technical ability and if he works well, he can play always. But I have five or six strikers and I must decide between them for each game.”

from dailystar.co.uk

[ant london]

Whatever the daily star says is true.

ultimately exactly the same article that has appeared everywhere though if I am not mistaken

So Robinho is 90% certain? I think he could be in for a nasty surprise when negotiations get underway as I can see the two clubs just being an ocean apart in terms of economics.

For me the only way that this is likely to happen (to Santos) is if they agree to essentially give us Neymar on the ( very) cheap. I think Robson very naively doesn't realise the extent to which is he wearing golden handcuffs, the keys to which are held by someone who cannot, financially, be held to ransom by petulance, insubordination or attempts at being disruptive. Real Madrid needed to get a fee for him and so could be backed in to a corner by his press conference antics. We could (although sure we would prefer not to) afford to play very hardball with him which could mean no (or very limited) action between now and the WC.

I don't think we would do that but we could and he needs to realise that.

In terms of him going? Well, I'm disappointed in his attitude but I am 100% certain that I don't really care too much to be honest. As someone else posted when Anelka was on the verge of leaving I was bricking it. The moment I'd been dreading since we signed him had arrived. I knew we'd initially "pulled" someone well out of our league when we landed him and I knew he'd leave us for someone "better looking" eventually and that, when he did, we would not be able to replace him like for like.

Well the simple fact is, that if Robbie does go, we have the means and now the profile to do exactly that. Sure it may not be til summer but he will be replaced.

AND

We are having a great season and Robinho's input into it has been....about zero. Actually, if anything, his "performances" when he has featured have probably made it more difficult to win (I refer you to numerous "it's like playing with ten men now Robinho is on" comments over the season). So will we miss him? I'll miss his magic yes, I'll miss his very likeable fun side, I'll miss those moments of genius. However, do I think a Robinho-less City will struggle for the remainder of this campaign. Frankly, no, I do not.

[CityFanFromRome]

If they give us both the kids for free, then maybe, maybe, we could make the deal happen, otherwise Robson will have to work hard if he wants to go to South Africa. As ant saud he doesn't realize that we hold the knife from its handle, and he can't in any way force our hand here.