****official england v france thread****

[Alioune DVToure]

All complaints about style of play aside, this was Hodgson's third game in all and first competitive game, and that was a cut above anything England mustered in South Africa.

We'll get at least four points against Sweden and Ukraine and progress. I for one am satisfied. About time we started playing un a common sense manner.

[DoomMerchant]

Michael Ballsack ripping England for parking the bus and being boring boring cunts. Martinez agrees with him. " i do love to win football with a positive attacking, a footballing philosophy" and he started, in response to ginger twat Lexi Lawlessness who claimed what England did was "beautiful" with "it can be beautiful only if you win the tournament"...which cracked me up.

We were boring...no invention..nothing......woy is as exciting as he looks..bet his mrs shags the gardener or Milk man.

any modern international manager with hair like Roy should automagically get you trounced from a tournament early.

England is a home to modernity, fashion, progress....and you fucks have signed up Angela Lansbury as your gaffer. Why? Get a young sporty, fantastically dead sexay bastard in there. He can tell them to stand behind the ball and make a run when they have some energy if they get the urge. Not that hard.

Oi i fancied Angela Lansbury when she was younger.

just because yr as fuclin old as dirt doesn't mean you should weigh in so brashly on a topic like this.

The Ukraine team looks like a bunch of former communists...hey, hold on a second...

[Blue2]

lol.

Hope the cheap cunt put more than a tenner on it. ;)

I'd piss myself if he was joking!

Just a fiver.

[Crossie]

Is Oxlade-Chamberlain all there???? I mean, trying to be polite, but he looks abit like the equal opportunities McDonalds employee that you'd find wiping the tables in the lobby. Good on him like, getting a job and living life normally as possible.

[Beefymcfc]

All complaints about style of play aside, this was Hodgson's third game in all and first competitive game, and that was a cut above anything England mustered in South Africa.

We'll get at least four points against Sweden and Ukraine and progress. I for one am satisfied. About time we started playing un a common sense manner.

Strengths, that's what a decent manager plays to. I agree.

[Beefymcfc]

lol.

Hope the cheap cunt put more than a tenner on it. ;)

I'd piss myself if he was joking!

Just a fiver.

Nice one, I make that 185 notes back, a punt an' alf.

[aaron bond]

All complaints about style of play aside, this was Hodgson's third game in all and first competitive game, and that was a cut above anything England mustered in South Africa.

We'll get at least four points against Sweden and Ukraine and progress. I for one am satisfied. About time we started playing un a common sense manner.

Well said!

We don't have many good players and it astounds me that people still think we have this god-given right to be the best. We are pretty shit and have been for many years. We are not, and never have been, in the same international league in terms of quality as Germany, Italy, Brazil, Argentina, Netherlands, France, and now Spain. Our level is more Russia, Croatia, Mexico, USA, Portugal etc. I'm not taking the piss there - that's a fact, but the majority of England fans can't accept that. Look at our record in tournaments for evidence.

We did well tonight and got a good result against a team who were technically better than us and could retain the ball with more superiority.

I've always liked Hodgson but believe he made some poor (Liverpool-influenced) squad choices. However, his plan is to make England hard to beat and move on from there. That is our ONLY chance of progressing - our attacking strength isn't good enough but we have the world's best goalkeeper (Hart), the best CB in the Prem last season (Lescott) and a top class LB (Cole). If the midfield get behind the ball and Johnson occasionally gets into the right fucking position then teams will struggle to break us down.

Before tonight I fully expected us to lose to France, but we got a draw and now have a great chance to qualify.

On another note, how great was it seeing City players running the show!?!? :-)

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

Most exciting thing about that game was the real life obelix sleeping in the stands.

[Beefymcfc]

I agree with that also, will wonders never cease ;-/

[Bridge'srightfoot]

Missed Rooney tonight. From an England perspective we did ok but lacked that spark and creativity up top.

[Beefymcfc]

Most exciting thing about that game was the real life obelix sleeping in the stands.

At least you've got someone to slate, we've got to get behind our team.

[Tokyo Blue]

Missed Rooney tonight. From an England perspective we did ok but lacked that spark and creativity up top.

We'll see what happens when he is in the team, shall we?

[chips]

Missed Rooney tonight. From an England perspective we did ok but lacked that spark and creativity up top.

Blasphemy!

[carl_feedthegoat]

All complaints about style of play aside, this was Hodgson's third game in all and first competitive game, and that was a cut above anything England mustered in South Africa.

We'll get at least four points against Sweden and Ukraine and progress. I for one am satisfied. About time we started playing un a common sense manner.

Well said!

We don't have many good players and it astounds me that people still think we have this god-given right to be the best. We are pretty shit and have been for many years. We are not, and never have been, in the same international league in terms of quality as Germany, Italy, Brazil, Argentina, Netherlands, France, and now Spain. Our level is more Russia, Croatia, Mexico, USA, Portugal etc. I'm not taking the piss there - that's a fact, but the majority of England fans can't accept that. Look at our record in tournaments for evidence.

We did well tonight and got a good result against a team who were technically better than us and could retain the ball with more superiority.

I've always liked Hodgson but believe he made some poor (Liverpool-influenced) squad choices. However, his plan is to make England hard to beat and move on from there. That is our ONLY chance of progressing - our attacking strength isn't good enough but we have the world's best goalkeeper (Hart), the best CB in the Prem last season (Lescott) and a top class LB (Cole). If the midfield get behind the ball and Johnson occasionally gets into the right fucking position then teams will struggle to break us down.

Before tonight I fully expected us to lose to France, but we got a draw and now have a great chance to qualify.

On another note, how great was it seeing City players running the show!?!? :-)

We do have a god given right..we invented the fuckign game.

[Florida Blue]

All complaints about style of play aside, this was Hodgson's third game in all and first competitive game, and that was a cut above anything England mustered in South Africa.

We'll get at least four points against Sweden and Ukraine and progress. I for one am satisfied. About time we started playing un a common sense manner.

Well said!

We don't have many good players and it astounds me that people still think we have this god-given right to be the best. We are pretty shit and have been for many years. We are not, and never have been, in the same international league in terms of quality as Germany, Italy, Brazil, Argentina, Netherlands, France, and now Spain. Our level is more Russia, Croatia, Mexico, USA, Portugal etc. I'm not taking the piss there - that's a fact, but the majority of England fans can't accept that. Look at our record in tournaments for evidence.

We did well tonight and got a good result against a team who were technically better than us and could retain the ball with more superiority.

I've always liked Hodgson but believe he made some poor (Liverpool-influenced) squad choices. However, his plan is to make England hard to beat and move on from there. That is our ONLY chance of progressing - our attacking strength isn't good enough but we have the world's best goalkeeper (Hart), the best CB in the Prem last season (Lescott) and a top class LB (Cole). If the midfield get behind the ball and Johnson occasionally gets into the right fucking position then teams will struggle to break us down.

Before tonight I fully expected us to lose to France, but we got a draw and now have a great chance to qualify.

On another note, how great was it seeing City players running the show!?!? :-)

We do have a god given right..we invented the fuckign game.

And Ford claims to have invented the automobile, and they suck at it as well.

[zuricity]

Missed Rooney tonight. From an England perspective we did ok but lacked that spark and creativity up top.

can't see how, Rooney is only good for a red or two yellows at this level, when the PL protectors ( ie refs for united) aren't around. i am actually glad he's only going to get the one game.

[Ted Hughes]

It was interesting to hear Chamberlain say he prefers to play wide - I thought he looked more effective for Arsenal played centrally.

I think he's at his most effective playing in the Championship, where he belongs. Yet another ridiculously overrated headless non entity. At least he's young though, so perhaps he can learn to actually take his eyes off his feet occasionally as time goes on. Judging by Wengers catastrophic handling of Walcott though, I won't hold my breath.

Also what the fuck were Young & Wellbeck doing ?

I can't believe people were actually praising those fuckers. If we'd had 3 proper forwards we would have won that.

[Beefymcfc]

Creative, Charlton style!

[phips]

1. Wow, Rooney's hair looks AWFUL
2. England looked pretty negative
3. France dominated..but when Benzema doesn't really do much they won't win.

[Bridge'srightfoot]

We (well I am anyway) are supporting ENGLAND. ENGLAND, not city, not united, ENGLAND. When they play I don't care if they play for City, United or Bury. I HATE how some people make international football all bout club football, it's not!

Rooney without doubt is the best striker England have and therefore from an England perspective he's good for the team.