I actually want rid now

[Wooders]

is what we're seeing with Mancini why no big club was in for him after his Inter sacking?

cheers

Yes

[DoomMerchant]

is what we're seeing with Mancini why no big club was in for him after his Inter sacking?

cheers

His compensation package with Inter apparently stipulated that he was unemployable by any club from May 2008 to October 2009.

that's fucking air cover for "not fuclin good enough" imho

cheers

[ayrshireblue]

All i ever wanted with Hughes a status quo.

Mancini has had 18 months and WE ARENT BETTER.By this time Hughed haters wanted him burning on a stake.


Im willing to give Mancini till the end of the season to see if he cuts it if he doesnt he can fuck off,exactly the way people fucked Hughes off.

I understand your thinking on this but all that happens is that any manager now should only get 18 months to make us better than Hughes had us or they too should be sacked. I don't particularly care who the manager is as long as he is given time and is progressing the team. He should also be leaving the club on a better footing and the problem with a Mourinho as another thread suggests is that I can't remember any of the clubs he's left bringing through any younger players after he's away. Give the manager his head and let him manage the club. If things are not progressing then they should be looked at again but 18 months is not enough time to build a stable base for the benefit of a football club.

[Ted Hughes]

Imo, I was happy with Hughes because it was the start of the 'project' & he played entertaining football. My expectations & demands of him would have been raised each season, as more quality players came in & the players we had signed were evaluated & the best sifted out from the failures. I think he did a good job under difficult circumstances with huge changes in ownership, people fucking about behind the scenes etc. We needed stabilising & he did it & also built quite a nice base for either himself or someone else to build on. It always seemed as if he lacked the 'star quality' to be there at the finish but I reconed we were a few years from that so I was happy to let him carry on. Now the goalposts have been moved & it's shit or bust for the manager (s)

If he was still around now, I'd expect him to achieve the targets set for Bob or be under pressure of the sack. I'd also expect him to do it in style. If he failed in either area I'd have been very tempted to get rid. I'll prpbably give Bob more leeway because he's not been here as long but he should be doing better imo.

Either way I don't believe changing managers will be as catastrophic in the future as it was in the past. The club is run differently now & the manager doesn't run most of it. Provided a percentage of our signings are good, the changes needed by new managers should become less & less. Look at Mourinho at Real for instance; a few new signings & on with the job. Same with Ancelotti at Chelsea. If someone comes into a club & causes turmoil it's usually because they're not very good. Which is a nagging worry about Bob; he's been quite destructive so far.

Once the team is close to the finished article, the future changeover of players will be less & less imo, even under new managers; mainly just tactical changes & the odd new player.

[KinkyKinkladze]

Look at the starter of this topic. When Hughes was in charge he would've eaten his shit with rusty spoon. Now he is calling for Mancini's head.

:D

[Piccsnumberoneblue]

I just tend to think that if you were a City season ticket holder 12/13 years ago and you still are now, and you go to Eastlands and look at the magnificent stadium and the players we have on show, and then think back to how things were, I imagine that by and large you'll be more inclined to be happy, patient, craving stability, and more willing to sit tight.

That fair?

Excuse me butting into your conversation with NQDP but .......... is that fair ?

Hmmm, yes I suppose it is 'fair' but it isn't necessarily correct.
I believe that, given the money spent and the time used up, we should be more than capable - by now - of playing mind blowingly good football AND winning (the two things are NOT mutually exclusive, ask Pep Guardiola).

There is absolutely no compulsion to look back into our recent past, thank God it's over with, and then settle for much less than is possible.

As for giving Mancini until the end of the season? I'll go along with that ..... I actually like him as a man, I like the way he seems to have taken City to his heart, and it makes me feel like some sort of Judas Iscariot pointing toward the gardens of Gethsemane when I call for his head - and that lot is a good indicator of how sickeningly tedious City's brand of football has become.

I'd go along with that. I've had a season ticket since Adam was a lad and I think we are watching shit football now. It should be better. Listen to the chat on the concourse and there are plenty who are having serious doubts about him, but the crowd hasn't turned vocally against him. If we lose the semi against the filth in gutless fashion, and look like missing out on 4th, expect that to change because there are plenty of murmurings. I'm not a fan of his, but I'm reluctant to get on his case at the ground.

[psut1]

hmm

[KinkyKinkladze]

Never been happier to be proven wrong by a manager.

However, shove it up your arse.

[kinkylola]

never been one to shove people's words in their faces ... that being said when this thread popped up I thought, "why not give it a read and see who actually said what at the time." I couldn't make it past the first page honestly, it was very awkward. No reason for anyone to be called out, but I would encourage people to go back and read what you wrote and engage in a little self critique.

We can now also move on from digging up old threads.

[Kladze]

never been one to shove people's words in their faces ... that being said when this thread popped up I thought, "why not give it a read and see who actually said what at the time." I couldn't make it past the first page honestly, it was very awkward. No reason for anyone to be called out, but I would encourage people to go back and read what you wrote and engage in a little self critique.

We can now also move on from digging up old threads.

I've reread the whole thread and the only thing I can find where I've been shown to be conclusively wrong is this .........

And how long does it take to develop an attractive, entertaining, attacking philosophy?

How long do we have to wait before we see any breathtaking football?
We saw quite a few glimpses of it under the last manager. The current incumbent will continue to bore my arse solid regardless of whether we win anything.

He and his team certainly haven't "bored my arse solid" for the last few weeks :-)

But later in the thread I did go on to say this .........

I just tend to think that if you were a City season ticket holder 12/13 years ago and you still are now, and you go to Eastlands and look at the magnificent stadium and the players we have on show, and then think back to how things were, I imagine that by and large you'll be more inclined to be happy, patient, craving stability, and more willing to sit tight.

That fair?

Excuse me butting into your conversation with NQDP but .......... is that fair ?

Hmmm, yes I suppose it is 'fair' but it isn't necessarily correct.
I believe that, given the money spent and the time used up, we should be more than capable - by now - of playing mind blowingly good football AND winning (the two things are NOT mutually exclusive, ask Pep Guardiola).

There is absolutely no compulsion to look back into our recent past, thank God it's over with, and then settle for much less than is possible.
[highlight]As for giving Mancini until the end of the season? I'll go along with that[/highlight] ..... I actually like him as a man, I like the way he seems to have taken City to his heart, and it makes me feel like some sort of Judas Iscariot pointing toward the gardens of Gethsemane when I call for his head - and that lot is a good indicator of how sickeningly tedious City's brand of football has become.

I'm now glad I was so generous toward him ;-o

[Slim]

I stand by everything I wrote in this thread.

Mancini may have us in 3rd and won the FA Cup, but let's not ignore how close we came to losing it on both fronts.

Hopefully next term we will be better prepared and challenge for the whole ball of wax.