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[Ted Hughes]

Oh & by the way, Mancini says he has no influence in transfers, then says HE turned down offers for Balotelli. That doesn't add up.

[john68]

Well it's good to see that after a short period of celebrating being Champions and a relatively boring close season, this board has reverted to type. "SCAPEGOATS R US" is back on course. The tree has been chosen, the rope knotted and Marwood bound, gagged and loaded onto the cart.
Let's not forget that it was not that many weeks before the end of our Championship winning season that Sherriff Doomie was leading the lynch party to string Mancini himself up.

Let's ignore the realities of our financial position (£146M to find from somewhere), the refusal of Ade, Rocky Crocky et al to drop their wages or even that it was always part of the long term plan to spend this year's money over last 2 seasons in order to dodge the worst demands of the FFP.

Sherriff Doomie wants his train set, Deputy Ant and the lads have all been invited round to play but Daddy has said NO!

[Swales4ever]

Bollox Teddy!
I have said many times what a senior sporting director is supposed to be able to do and You had, very kindly and friendly read those points.

and aprtly yes, Mankini wants top players beacuse heìs not been hired to keep Everton FC safe in midtable.... and not, all the pre-City history of Bob says that he is not a greedy spoilt brat only capable to moan because he had not gifted the lastest smartest toy.
perhaps he had just grown a pair since when he set up the table at Inter Milan for the glory of the Portuguese Clown.

[Swales4ever]

Oh & by the way, Mancini says he has no influence in transfers, then says HE turned down offers for Balotelli. That doesn't add up.

mancini also said and keep saying that RAGS are the best and unbeatable team of the world! m_i_n_d g.... ?

[Swales4ever]

Well it's good to see that after a short period of celebrating being Champions and a relatively boring close season, this board has reverted to type. "SCAPEGOATS R US" is back on course. The tree has been chosen, the rope knotted and Marwood bound, gagged and loaded onto the cart.
Let's not forget that it was not that many weeks before the end of our Championship winning season that Sherriff Doomie was leading the lynch party to string Mancini himself up.

Let's ignore the realities of our financial position (£146M to find from somewhere), the refusal of Ade, Rocky Crocky et al to drop their wages or even that it was always part of the long term plan to spend this year's money over last 2 seasons in order to dodge the worst demands of the FFP.

Sherriff Doomie wants his train set, Deputy Ant and the lads have all been invited round to play but Daddy has said NO!

Sir John,
just a question: do You think is there a substancial difference if either You or your grandson deal with the purchase of Your next cab?
it's just it.
NONE wants to have a garage full of Aston Martins and Ferraris. just professionalism. as You had always kept saying.
my Lord.

[Chinners]

So Mancio ... You think Marwood should just say to Adebayor take a wage cut or don't play again? ... I can see that going down well at the European court of appeal when he takes us to a tribunal. Players have the upper hand, wroingly imo so if we are doing our small part to bring the greedy fuclers back in the real world so be it whether it is Marwoods doing or not. As I've already said if Kaldoomn and the Sheikh were unhappy with Marwood, he'd be long gone. People like him operate behind the scenes and out of the public gaze for a reason in general ... so they can get on with their job

And football is unlike any other business in the world so you can't compare it to the norm. Any other business would not be allowed to even get the chance to rack up millions of pounds in debt and carry on trading

[Ted Hughes]

Oh & by the way, Mancini says he has no influence in transfers, then says HE turned down offers for Balotelli. That doesn't add up.

mancini also said and keep saying that RAGS are the best and unbeatable team of the world! m_i_n_d g.... ?

EXACTLY.

The very same mind games he is using by moaning at Marwood. It's not just Marwood he is moaning at, it's Khaldoon.

If we sign 3 superstars for decent money, he won't say 'well done Brian' he will say 'thank you Sheikh Mansour & Khaldoon for your fantastic support'.

[Swales4ever]

a little help from Doomie, Ant and Carl would be welcome, as I should also have to undertake some tasks.... :-)
apart from polemizing with my friends...

[carl_feedthegoat]

We need competition for Lescott.

I will blame Marwood if dont get it.

[Chinners]

Oh & by the way, Mancini says he has no influence in transfers, then says HE turned down offers for Balotelli. That doesn't add up.

mancini also said and keep saying that RAGS are the best and unbeatable team of the world! m_i_n_d g.... ?

EXACTLY.

The very same mind games he is using by moaning at Marwood. It's not just Marwood he is moaning at, it's Khaldoon.

If we sign 3 superstars for decent money, he won't say 'well done Brian' he will say 'thank you Sheikh Mansour & Khaldoon for your fantastic support'.

Thats pretty much bang on Ted

[Chinners]

We need competition for Lescott.

I will blame Marwood if dont get it.

Ha ha, you've changed. Usually 'replacement' would have be used instead of 'competition' .... B+

[john68]

Sir Roger,
It is not about personalities mate, it is about the situation we find ourselves in. It is about the balance sheet and what we can afford to spend. It is about the parameters set by Mansour and Khaldoon and it is about Marwood and his team following orders. It is about the club paying the consequences of our previous free spending and being forced to play catch up. It is about our policy of spendingthis year's money last season and now having to ease back.

I sympathise with Bob, he deals only in football and his job and reputation depend on results. He sees the opportunity to consolidate his gains and push City clear of the pack. He is understandably pissed off that he isn't being allowed to do that but he is being controlled by those who have the responsibility of balancing the books.

[Swales4ever]

So Mancio ... You think Marwood should just say to Adebayor take a wage cut or don't play again? ... I can see that going down well at the European court of appeal when he takes us to a tribunal. Players have the upper hand, wroingly imo so if we are doing our small part to bring the greedy fuclers back in the real world so be it whether it is Marwoods doing or not. As I've already said if Kaldoomn and the Sheikh were unhappy with Marwood, he'd be long gone. People like him operate behind the scenes and out of the public gaze for a reason in general ... so they can get on with their job

And football is unlike any other business in the world so you can't compare it to the norm. Any other business would not be allowed to even get the chance to rack up millions of pounds in debt and carry on trading

no I think he MUST be such an influential pro in his market to drive the tasks submitted to his care by the Chairman, according to sporting and financial interests of the Club.
A name spring to mind: Giuseppe Marotta: former sporting director, then CEO at UC Sampdoria, then CEO at the Italian Rags.
this bloke, who has spent half a life at learning the trade of sporting director, happend to be in charge of the whole part of sporting directorship at a Club (UC Sampdoria) owned by, probably, the second richer Italian, sadly also the MOST tightwad one!
well, he managed to take Sampdoria from SERIE B to UCL playoff having an yearly market badget of never more of 5 milions euro: and that's because he had establised relationships, exchanged favours, learnt how to exploit other clubs' weaknesses at negotiating, and so on...

IN OTHER WORDS, HE IS A SENIOR SPORTING DIRECTOR!
and not, I am not by any means claiming that a further Italian should by hired at City: too many already for my taste!

[PeterParker]

Like was said above, in may, after the last fixture, the manager sits with Khaldoon and the sheik and Marwood and talk about the next transfer window. Bobby said he wants Hazard and RVP and other players and they understoond and let Marwood handle it, but however, they said they won't pay again a shitload of money on who knows what, so if the clubs will want more than we are ready to pay for, they can fuck off.

The problem that Marwood has is that he failed to sell Adebayor and RSC and that is what is holding us back. If he had solved their problems in june, at this moment we could have had two new players.

Marwood isn't that good at this things, to be fair. Remember the last year Nasri ON/OFF thread and the entire saga? It went almost forever, because he failed to sign him for over a month and a half and not to mention what happend with Sneijder.

Another problem is that a player will come here without having a summer training with the squad and will have the same problems that Nasri and Milner had in their first season.


Imho, this weird thing that happens in our club, might have a small result from the Russian saga contract that Bobby had earlier this summer.

[Swales4ever]

I am undeservedly chuffed Sir John, but be it clear once and for all.
in the Blues Community - and I suspect not only there - I am the apprentice and You are the LORD.

[Chinners]

Seems a tad harsh blaming Marwood for the Nasri saga. He got him in eventually didn't he? Can't blame if the play, his Agent and Arsenal keep fucling about trying to get more cash out of the club. I sound like a right Marwood licker today, I'm certainly not as I think there are better people that can do his job but fair do's to him at the mo if he's just doing the owners/chairmans bidding at present

[MaineRoadMemories]

I’m probably in the minority but I don’t think this transfer window is that bad as most deals take place in the final 3 days.
It’s quite clear to see that City have changed transfer strategy in an attempt to stop our reputation in the industry as being a cash cow willing to fund the selling club’s transfer budget for a couple of years.

Couple this with the fact we have now decided to play hardball with agents has lead us to lose out on our main target this summer.

We have joined Arsenal and United in denying paying agents stupid fees. A noble act but it does cost you players when you have the likes of Chelsea and PSG willing to pay £6 and £9 million to agents and other hanger-oners.

We are no longer in a rebuilding phase and now only need top, top quality players or very good back up players. We are only buying the best of what other teams have and this makes it very tough when you are no longer willing to spend whatever it takes (e.g. the Lescott and Aguero transfers)

So far we have been seriously linked with:
Hazard – was our No.1 target. He turned into a WUM and media whore and his agent wanted £6m and he wanted over £200,000 a week. We said no – he went to Chelsea

Silva – Mancini wanted him but again huge fees meant we missed out and he went to PSG

RVP – We went in for him but Arsenal are playing very silly games at the moment in an attempt to keep him. It’s a Nasri MKII transfer all over again and he will end up leaving within a week of the transfer deadline. However, the won’t be coming to us unless we shift deadwood.

Cavanni – Mancini is a huge admirer and wants him but again we need to shift strikers. Also the transfer fees would be huge

De Rossi – Signed a new contract and a Roma loyalist so not likely to leave. Roma’s owner is pimping him out in the hope City will pay over £30m for him which is unlikely to happen.

Agger – Another fiercely loyal player to his current club. As with De Rossi he’s not looking to move but Liverpool owners are pimping out their best assets in a bid to get money in for Rogers to spend. We won’t be paying £30m for him though.

Sinclair – A weird one for me and I can’t see him fitting in but would be an okay bench-warming and is home grown. Ironically the
most likely to happen so far.

So after being rejected or not willing to pay fees we have the situation where Mancini is getting annoyed with the club. He has stated a few times this window that he wanted to sign 4 or 5 players. This was never going to happen though as Khaldoon stated we would only sign one or two players in his video interview for the official site.

Khaldoon’s priorities this window is to sell and get the wage bill to an acceptable level. It’s way out of control at over 114% of turnover and he will be looking to get it down to under 70%. He’s a businessman after all. He’s instructed Marwood to sell before we buy and also to be prudent on wages and fees for any incoming players. It’s a thankless task (and one of our own making) but the right one for where City needs to move financially.

Unfortunately we won’t be getting anyone bidding for our players until transfer deadline day as interested clubs will not be looking to pay even 1 weeks wages if they can get away with it.

Selling our deadwood is almost an impossible task as they are happy to see out there contracts. Adebayor is playing it very cool and is after as much of a pay off as possible. RSC is happy living in Hale and doesn’t seem to mind not playing. Bridge is gone but we are paying 90% of his wages. Toure refused to leave and is happy to stay for us as is De Jong at the moment.

We cannot shift any of our players = no new players coming in. Prepare for a flurry of activity on transfer deadline day and the day before though if we do shift Adebayor, RSC, Toure and De Jong.

Mancini is turning up the heat on the boardroom as he’s seeing his summer window turn into nothing. He knows he cannot directly bring Khaldoon or Mansour into the press conference as the journalists would crucify him. So he turns to his scapegoat Marwood and blames him so that Khaldoon gets the message.

It will be fascinating to see who’s will is strongest and whether we do end up signing players before we sell. I think Khaldoon will win this as our wages cannot be sustained at its current level.

If that means that Chelsea and PSG get to do all the fun signings this window then so be it. We’ve had a fantastic run at players these past 3 years.

[DoomMerchant]

Marwood just needs to stop being a salmon.

That is all i have to say on the matter.

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[ronk]

My take on the Marwood thing is that he's been dealt a hand that allows him to make big signings, but not at any price. Over caution and poor negotiating had led to him allowing himself to be backed into a corner where he had to pay silly money or walk away.

Agents and players are taking the piss knowing that they'll get what they want. Adebayor is a case in point. We have a strong hand, we can tell Spurs to fuck off and loan him to the championship. Sure, we lose money, but Adebayor loses more so he has an incentive to sit at the table rather than bang on it.

We've done more than enough at this point to demonstrate good faith, he's calling our bluff: so grow a pair and pull the fucking trigger Marwood.

We don't have a place at this organisation for someone who's going to squirm for a while and then take the bait: hook, line and sinker.

Individual deals, I can understand. But EVERYONE is taking the piss. Cook said the odd fucking stupid thing, and made some bad deals. But there were lots of good ones too. And the best deals were generally done quickly.

Marwood is leaving Mancini to do the talking. It's a safe alternative to Cook, but it's not getting us anywhere.

[MaineRoadMemories]

Cook could do deals quickly because he gave Kia et al a blank cheque to write their own fees. Something which PSG are currently doing. It no coincidence that they and Chelsea have swept up all the talent this summer. They are paying agents whatever they want.