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Re: The Yaya Toure 'Munich' song

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Re: The Yaya Toure 'Munich' song

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Re: The Yaya Toure 'Munich' song

Postby Avalon » Tue Apr 26, 2011 11:38 am

If 'Munich' is a name used for the rags, then why use it? Rags is what we call him, Munich has no relation to them, whatsoever, apart from the accident. We always point out the fact that they're not from Manchester, but they're not from Munich either. Come on, children, it is silly.

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Re: The Yaya Toure 'Munich' song

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Re: The Yaya Toure 'Munich' song

Postby Original Dub » Tue Apr 26, 2011 12:20 pm

I said it in the racism thread a few weeks ago - a hardcore insult is a hardcore insult, whether its xenophobic, racist or mocking a tragedy close to anyone's heart.

Its bile. Pure and simple. I'm not saying it offends me... nor does any of the above if I'm really honest... but it all falls under the same banner for me. If you really want to hurt someone... to deeply affect someone, then use one of the above and it will work better than general banter.

Its entirely up to you how far you want to take it, but the above are the sharpest tools if you want to really cut someone up.

Personally, I'll go with the "we're better than you" style banter. I can't say everyone must do the same.
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Re: The Yaya Toure 'Munich' song

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Re: The Yaya Toure 'Munich' song

Postby Bluez » Tue Apr 26, 2011 12:31 pm

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Re: The Yaya Toure 'Munich' song

Postby david yearsley » Tue Apr 26, 2011 12:54 pm

"Who put the ball in the red scum´s net?" would suffice

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Re: The Yaya Toure 'Munich' song

Postby Chinners » Tue Apr 26, 2011 12:56 pm

A 'mate' of mine is a Liverpool fan and he is always banging on about how United fans press their hands on their faces when they play each other without any steward/club official or police stopping it yet they squeal like pigs if one Aeroplane gesture is done. He also claims that until recently Liverpool fans never sung Munich songs ... hmm. I've never heard United fans singing about Foe to be honest. As I said earlier it still surprises me that this still creates polar responses, each to their own. This is all rearing it's head again because of the BBC documentary the other day ain't it?
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Re: The Yaya Toure 'Munich' song

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Re: The Yaya Toure 'Munich' song

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Re: The Yaya Toure 'Munich' song

Postby Chinners » Tue Apr 26, 2011 1:44 pm

Fair comment that Ant.

Just remembered a German fella in the pub last night told me the Man U fans had a go at them for chanting "Muenchen" at Old Trafford when he was there with Bayern
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Re: The Yaya Toure 'Munich' song

Postby Bluez » Tue Apr 26, 2011 1:55 pm

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Re: The Yaya Toure 'Munich' song

Postby Chinners » Tue Apr 26, 2011 2:37 pm

I just don't care either way
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Re: The Yaya Toure 'Munich' song

Postby twosips » Tue Apr 26, 2011 4:31 pm

This thread has actually made me embarrassed to be a city fan :(

We have some utter scum. Some of you are no better than some of the United fans that you rage about who sing hillsborough songs etc

'just a song' - right. Okay - well therefore anything I could ever possibly say to someone could not be offensive then, cos they're just 'words'. Yeah - nothing people could ever sing could be offensive right! In that case why are you offended by other teams' songs?

Just because you don't feel anything about something it doesn't mean you can mock it. I don't know anything about any of you, but if i heard someone died related to you i wouldn't mock it, or sing songs referencing it - as its fucking harsh really. It's so so selfish to think just because you're not upset its fine. Where's the human compassion? Where's the respect? Is nothing out of bounds now? Shall we sing songs about Hillsborough too next time we play Liverpool, simply cos it'd wind them up? I mean we may as well right? Just words - just a song? Course not....

I know people are saying its not a reference to the actual disaster - but that makes fuck all sense. It is. Every time you say 'munich' you may as well just be saying 'remember that tragedy where loads of innocent people tragically died?' in a context of a song aimed to rile the United fans. How on earth is it not a reference to it? The word is put in there merely to annoy United fans as it carries loads of wait - therefore it is a reference. Utter bullshit pretending it isn't. If it wasn't a dig at the disaster and had no meaning you'd all have no problem changing it to another word - as it is the shit still want to use that word cos they know it gets the best reaction.

Sadly I think we are going to make it to the top. And we're gonna be exposed, and hated, and rightly so. It's getting to the point where it is no longer the majority. You hear thousands upon thousands singing Munich songs at games. It's not the same as United's majority that sing about Hillsborough etc - it isn't - let's be honest. They have a small minority that do - but you rarely hear that on tele (in before someone says that's cos their fans are shite and don't sing loudly - cos that's really besides the point).. Last night was humiliating to be a City fan.

Most people are desensitised by it. That's true, yes. But it doesn't mean its ok. It just doesn't. My mum is desensitised by the word 'cunt' probably, but I wouldn't use it in front of her. Most people aren't offended by racism, and i'm sure most Asian people for example are used to the word 'Paki' - but that doesn't mean its right! Most people are desensitised to pretty much anything these days - doesn't mean those desensitised things are alright though.

All of the country woke up this morning reading about how all the away end of City's fans sang proudly and loudly about us chanting songs referencing Munich. They see us as a bunch of fans who will happily reference a horrific event to simply just wind up United fans. It's retarded. We're becoming an embarrassment.

I don't want to be the new Millwall :/ hated by everyone. Hated by everyone for being heartless bastards.

I've still not read one good reason why these 'munich' references are acceptable. I know all I get in response to this post is something moronic like 'fuck off' or 'fuck the munich scum' or whatever. Or maybe someone will take the piss of my post count (ooo scary) or something highly unoriginal. It's just depressing. I expect these responses.

'it doesn't reference the actual disaster' - bollocks. Irrelevant. It does. Every time its sang its sang with hatred and with a clear aim to piss off United - how? by referencing a tragic disaster they were involved in.

'it happened 30 years before i was born - couldn't give a fuck' - oh ok - that means its ok? let's all sing songs about jews dying then, cos it happened a long time ago therefore its fine :) stupid reasoning. In fact - let's find old people, ask them if they lost anyone at one point, when they say 'yes' - sing songs at them and mock them! Cos i won't matter will it? Cos it happened aaaaages ago and we don't know who they are! :D

'its ingrained into the conscious now and will never go away so what's the point' - ridiculous attitude - so yeah, if something's hard to do then its not worth doing and we should all just happily clap along and be offensive just cos the rest are. Well if that attitude was in place twenty years ago we'd still have terrace riots, and racism at the games. Lovely.

'everyone does it, especially united' - so fucking what. There's right, and there's wrong. This is wrong. We don't copy bad actions by others in our daily lives do we? Just cos 'everyone does it'?! Two wrongs don't make a right. We say 'we are impeccable' - are we fuck. What was the point even staying silent for the minutes silence at Old Trafford if we now sing songs like this? Makes us look like hypocrites. Do you not know when to take a moral highground?

'well no one complained when some of the red shite attacked some city fans' - great. because some scum united fans attacked some city fans then its alright to sing munich songs. Is it bollocks. Let's not pretend too that United fans haven't been attacked. They have. Anyway - these united fans that are attacking people are low lifes. Why should we rise to them? Why? Why should we rile these puerile little shits anymore? Yeah - that's a good idea. Let's get tension to a fucking boiling point and actually make it unbearable and make Manchester a lovely place to be when there's a Derby.

Just because some United fans are dick heads, it doesn't mean that we can fucking sing songs about munich. All of us will have friends that are United fans - admit it. If you don't, cos you refuse to, then you take a game far too seriously. My point is that most United fans are fine - its just football after all. I just don't get how you can slate United fans for being twats, when we constantly sing these songs. Where is the moral highground?

Just think about it. Detach yourselves from your stupid brains, pro-munich chanters, and look at the facts.

We. Are. Singing. A. Song. Aimed. At. Annoying. United. Fans. Which. Includes. A. Word. That. References. A. Horrific. Horrible. Tragedy. That. People. Died. In.

People died! We are using that to get a rise of people! What the fuck does that make us?!

Manchester City have some despicable fans. We really do. Low lifes.

It's just a fucking game. FOOTBALL. Bunch of millionaires running around a pitch to entertain us. Get a fucking grip.

Where has our sense of humour gone. I remember when we used to entertain away fans. We still sometimes do, but we're increasingly sounding more and more 'bitter' with this insistence of singing this song. It makes us look small time and angry. Can't we just fucking ignore United and concentrate on City? Can't we make up a song for Dzeko? Or one for David Silva that isn't shit? Or one for De Jong or VK? Sigh.
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Re: The Yaya Toure 'Munich' song

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Re: The Yaya Toure 'Munich' song

Postby moomey » Tue Apr 26, 2011 4:42 pm

Eloquent and correct - I agree with twosips the whole way - it's embarrassing and has to stop now
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Re: The Yaya Toure 'Munich' song

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