Original Dub wrote:Arjan Van Schotte wrote:
seems like some of us need to wait until we probably won't win the league - which is quite a high aspiration for a city fan.
Before being smug little cunts over a defeat.
There seems to be a few smug cunts whenever we play poorly.
City fans supposedly. Strange
Socrates wrote:
I've got a lump on my head from where I headbutted the wall on Saturday if that helps you feel better.
Colin the King wrote:I honestly don't think we know any more after Saturday than we did a month ago.
The players are motivated enough to perform brilliantly on the big occasions, and steamroller teams at home, but the vigour and convictions goes astray in the unglamourous away games.
I can envisage us beating Bayern and Everton over the next week, and then losing at West Ham.
In terms of capability, it's all there. We have the strongest squad in the league and I don't think that's even up for debate. The vast majority of our group were there when we won it 2 seasons ago so they should know what's required. Our manager is an advocate of attacking football and we WILL win more games than we lose and WILL dismantle a lot of sides between now and May.
What gives me some degree of comfort is that, relative to previous seasons' away form, there are positives to take. Of course we should be beating Cardiff and Villa, and capitalising better on our chances but on Saturday we performed well, looked sharp and creative for large periods and were undone by individual mistakes.
We have all the ingredients to be a lot better and thankfully Chelsea and United have performed poorly overall, so we haven't been punished so far.
I think once we pick up three points and a clean sheet away from home, it will give the players the confidence to know they're capable. Once that happens, allied with our attacking talents, we'll be flying.
Colin the King wrote:I honestly don't think we know any more after Saturday than we did a month ago.
The players are motivated enough to perform brilliantly on the big occasions, and steamroller teams at home, but the vigour and convictions goes astray in the unglamourous away games.
I can envisage us beating Bayern and Everton over the next week, and then losing at West Ham.
In terms of capability, it's all there. We have the strongest squad in the league and I don't think that's even up for debate. The vast majority of our group were there when we won it 2 seasons ago so they should know what's required. Our manager is an advocate of attacking football and we WILL win more games than we lose and WILL dismantle a lot of sides between now and May.
What gives me some degree of comfort is that, relative to previous seasons' away form, there are positives to take. Of course we should be beating Cardiff and Villa, and capitalising better on our chances but on Saturday we performed well, looked sharp and creative for large periods and were undone by individual mistakes.
We have all the ingredients to be a lot better and thankfully Chelsea and United have performed poorly overall, so we haven't been punished so far.
I think once we pick up three points and a clean sheet away from home, it will give the players the confidence to know they're capable. Once that happens, allied with our attacking talents, we'll be flying.
Ted Hughes wrote:Well I've remained dissatisfied so far as the results go, & will do until we start winning v teams like Villa, but I have to say after just watching the Villa game, most of the stuff the Count is trying to do, is actually working & I think he's probably right in what he is trying to do. Some individual mistakes cost us, not his tactics & imo, that was actually one of our best away performances in recent years, ruined by poor judgement from one or two players plus the officials (it was Kompany's man who scored btw, not Nastasic's, awful stuff from Vinny put Nasti in the shit). I don't blame the Count for any of that though, his part worked pretty much how it was supposed to; Vinny & Co fucked up & it was their fault. This was much better than Cardiff or Stoke though & more like the 'Barca with crosses' kind of football some of us have been asking for. We are also miles better at taking corners & free kicks now. If we maintain that standard away from home, the results will surely come. Nobody plays better than that away from home, in fact Barca themselves don't as a team; they just have Messi.
Chinners wrote:I thought we were fine in general on Saturday, could/should have been five up at half time ... one of those games I suppose but at least thje performance was what most of us expect/want to see rather than those at Cardiff/Stoke. Still satisfied here in Chinners Towers
Chinners wrote:I thought we were fine in general on Saturday, could/should have been five up at half time ... one of those games I suppose but at least thje performance was what most of us expect/want to see rather than those at Cardiff/Stoke. Still satisfied here in Chinners Towers
Chinners wrote:I thought we were fine in general on Saturday, could/should have been five up at half time ... one of those games I suppose but at least thje performance was what most of us expect/want to see rather than those at Cardiff/Stoke. Still satisfied here in Chinners Towers
Socrates wrote:
While, on the face of it, that is true, it is concerning that all that expansive play didn't lead directly to a single goal with both goals being scruffy bundled in efforts from corners. Nothing wrong with having that sort of goal in the mix but the expansive stuff was ultimately toothless.
Blue Since 76 wrote:Ted Hughes wrote:Well I've remained dissatisfied so far as the results go, & will do until we start winning v teams like Villa, but I have to say after just watching the Villa game, most of the stuff the Count is trying to do, is actually working & I think he's probably right in what he is trying to do. Some individual mistakes cost us, not his tactics & imo, that was actually one of our best away performances in recent years, ruined by poor judgement from one or two players plus the officials (it was Kompany's man who scored btw, not Nastasic's, awful stuff from Vinny put Nasti in the shit). I don't blame the Count for any of that though, his part worked pretty much how it was supposed to; Vinny & Co fucked up & it was their fault. This was much better than Cardiff or Stoke though & more like the 'Barca with crosses' kind of football some of us have been asking for. We are also miles better at taking corners & free kicks now. If we maintain that standard away from home, the results will surely come. Nobody plays better than that away from home, in fact Barca themselves don't as a team; they just have Messi.
Let's hope Bayern don't!
I only listened to the match on local radio and then watched MOTD. The radio commentary was bemused about how a half could be so one sides yet still 0-0. So it didn't strike me as as bad as Cardiff or Stoke, so maybe we are getting there, but results are more important than performances unless we're building up to a fantastic run.
I also agree about Kompany being at fault for the goal. Their player was slightly offside, but he could have been a yard onside and still scored. Nastasic pushed out as Kolarov let another man come inside him and Kompany didn't close the gap quickly enough
For the free kick, daft foul from Nastasic, but I'd raise an eyebrow at Hart again - it was over the wall, but wasn't right in the corner or under the bar and he never moved. De Gea tipped a similar one over the bar against West Brom, so the lack of ability against a free kick again is a worry. At least he didn't move the wrong way before it was taken this time.
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