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Re: Guardiola Should Be Given To Xmas

Postby nottsblue » Sun Oct 25, 2020 9:54 pm

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nottsblue wrote:I suspect he is mentally drained and fatigued from the 17/18 & 18/19 seasons. The energy and focus that was plain to see on the All or Nothing documentary was immense and I imagine it didn't let up in the Treble season.

If this is the case he needs to be honest with himself as to whether he still has the appetite for the day to day grind and to motivate himself and more importantly, the team.

Something is amiss for my money and maybe Arteta was his rock he cant replace.

He still has my support at this stage though, if for nothing else other than how brilliant we have been during his tenure. I think he will see out his contract and take another year out myself. Is this to the detriment of the club? Maybe, we shall see. But I hope we have the class to respect the man who brought us so many titles. Unless his replacement is ready to go theres no meaningful gain to be had by sacking him mid term.


He's making fucking shit decisions week in and week out though isn't he and its impossible to support him when he doesn't learn....some of them are just plain copy and paste mistakes that get pointed out every fuckign time but he still persists...........he did say hes incapable of changing his way to play football and when you have that attitude you leave yourself open to failure.

Facts are , he's only had 2 great DOMESTIC seasons since FEBRUARY 2016 and another one where we ended up being an embarrassing amount of points behind the Dipper winners and among those years hes been a total disaster in the Champions League....spent 100,s of millions and mostly on dross.

Sorry - cannot feel sorry or have any sentiment for a 20 million pound a year manager with that record and certainly cannot support him , not that I have any choice over the matter, just have to watch the same shite till he fucks off and we get someone else in.

He does make poor decisions, you cant dispute that. But for more decisive finishing we would have won yesterday and won at Leeds. The position would then be more favourable. But we didnt finish our chances and we are mid table. For now. We have the game in hand, and Villa at home is eminently winnable.

The striker situation we find ourselves in now, is that his or the DOF fault? Probably a bit of both as these things are never black and white. But he carrys the can and the buck stops at his door.

I dont think last season was as bad as has been made out. Yes we finished a long way behind the dippers, but they had a record breaking season with the FA behind them. We finished second which is no mean feat, you cant win the PL every year, and we have a pot on the sideboard which is never a bad thing and I for one still dont take for granted.

Europe will be his ultimate downfall as that is what he was brought in to win and we are no nearer to success in the CL since he came in. But we were robbed v spuds to be fair.

But in all honesty, though I still support him, if he was to leave and someone like Nagelsmann was brought in I wouldn't be too disappointed. Sometimes managers take a side as far as they can and theres nothing left to add. He isnt far from that I reckon
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Re: Guardiola Should Be Given To Xmas

Postby Hazy2 » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:20 am

Win the game in hand the panic merchants all get on with life. I know Worryingly the goals have dried up, but we are creating simple chances to shoot, we had enough 1v1 on Saturday to win again the hate is shelved. The striker one is not easy as people suggest back upto Sergio or Sergio back up ?.. I think they were on it just not that simple. I think it’s beyond the realms of fantasy the club would be thinking like some on here who want Pep out and have done since he arrived. What joy do some get from City....
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Re: Guardiola Should Be Given To Xmas

Postby Mase » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:40 am

I don’t think anyone is worried about where we are in the league Hazy mate. Maybe one person has mentioned it. People are worried because Pep isn’t learning and we’re playing awful tactics that don’t suit our players. Add to that some players are playing when they don’t deserve to. That’s worrying.
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Re: Guardiola Should Be Given To Xmas

Postby sheblue » Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:30 am

Not worried about league, were well capable of winning it, if we get our act together.

But we absolutely need Pep to stop making mistakes. He really shouldn't talk about players making mistakes.
Sort his own out first. And get to fuck on with his job.
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Re: Guardiola Should Be Given To Xmas

Postby Mase » Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:40 am

sheblue wrote:Not worried about league, were well capable of winning it, if we get our act together.

But we absolutely need Pep to stop making mistakes. He really shouldn't talk about players making mistakes.
Sort his own out first. And get to fuck on with his job.


He should also stop talking about players “deserving” things when he’s playing Garcia and handing Sterling the captaincy.
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Re: Guardiola Should Be Given To Xmas

Postby PeterParker » Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:54 am

sheblue wrote:Not worried about league, were well capable of winning it, if we get our act together.

But we absolutely need Pep to stop making mistakes. He really shouldn't talk about players making mistakes.
Sort his own out first. And get to fuck on with his job.


I am afraid he does not have it in him anymore.
It is hard to motivate the squad when yourself are not motivated anymore.
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Re: Guardiola Should Be Given To Xmas

Postby Hazy2 » Mon Oct 26, 2020 9:06 am

Mase wrote:I don’t think anyone is worried about where we are in the league Hazy mate. Maybe one person has mentioned it. People are worried because Pep isn’t learning and we’re playing awful tactics that don’t suit our players. Add to that some players are playing when they don’t deserve to. That’s worrying.


We got a fired up WH on saturday 45 mins we were poor. Second half we should have won 4/5 -1 Pep only brought on KDB because other than Foden we lack cutting edge. Without Sergio Jesus the stats speak a thousand words. Hope its a blip, mate I just do not get the hate. Pep is single minded at City every manager will have to be even a flavour of the month German who has won nothing all be it in a one team league.
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Re: Guardiola Should Be Given To Xmas

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:24 am

Hazy2 wrote:
Mase wrote:I don’t think anyone is worried about where we are in the league Hazy mate. Maybe one person has mentioned it. People are worried because Pep isn’t learning and we’re playing awful tactics that don’t suit our players. Add to that some players are playing when they don’t deserve to. That’s worrying.


We got a fired up WH on saturday 45 mins we were poor. Second half we should have won 4/5 -1 Pep only brought on KDB because other than Foden we lack cutting edge. Without Sergio Jesus the stats speak a thousand words. Hope its a blip, mate I just do not get the hate. Pep is single minded at City every manager will have to be even a flavour of the month German who has won nothing all be it in a one team league.


Your worse than the fuckign Woke club at times Hazy.

No one hates baldie or even Sterling.....The only borderline dislike /hate are for his tactics and line ups and Sterling's embarrassing misses.

You make excuse after excuse for us not winning games'' if this player or that player had scored then we would have won'' instead of stating the truth of the matter which is 'if Baldie had played player's in their correct roles we would have won at a canter or if he had played players that deserved to play (Foden to name just one ) from the OFF, instead of players like fuckign Garcia who will leave NO MATTER WHAT in January or next summer , then maybe we would have had enough on the pitch to win outright instead of relying on Sterling to 'get us out of the shit after going a goal down etc.

The whole fucking saga is down to Baldie who still doesn't know if hes coming or going and MCFC have allowed him carte blanche on timelines to make his mind up.

Disgraceful.
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Re: Guardiola Should Be Given To Xmas

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:43 am

It's a DISGRACE!
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Re: Guardiola Should Be Given To Xmas

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Mon Oct 26, 2020 12:01 pm

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:It's a DISGRACE!


It is a disgrace ...allowing a 20 million pound a year manager carte blanch on when wants to leave....hes been here 4 and a bit years...not 20 fuckign years !!!

A disgrace that we haven't made his mind up for him.
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Re: Guardiola Should Be Given To Xmas

Postby City64 » Mon Oct 26, 2020 12:04 pm

It’s a simple one . We lack the real cutting edge we have had for a decade , Aguero is coming to the end , Jesus when fit is decent but on his own not the answer and Sterling isn’t a natural finisher . We miss the direct pace and dynamic of Sane but he was inconsistent, Torres will need a season to adjust and improve just like Sane . Foden is still learning and growing but doing well , KDB is possibly the only world class player we have now after having nearly one world class player in every position in recent times so we are far too heavily reliant on him without doubt . Bernardo is being played out of position because our midfield doesn’t work properly like it used to do . Our defence meanwhile does look far better than last season Diaz , Laporte, Ake and Walker is the way to go and looks top class ! Biggest problem of all is pep is going to leave at the end of the season so it is going to be all change again but is something we have to live with and move on with . The new manager whoever it is will bring new ideas and hopefully some silverware , we will have to except change and hope for the best when it comes . Meanwhile this season is going to be very strange, the league is going to be crazy no team is going to run away with it and every club in contention has problems . The top clubs are also missing the advantage of home crowds and huge away support alike it is so strange and don’t get me started on diabolical shit VAR the scourge of modern day football it’s a fucking disgrace killing the game as we used to know it .
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Re: Guardiola Should Be Given To Xmas

Postby Hazy2 » Mon Oct 26, 2020 12:04 pm

carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Hazy2 wrote:
Mase wrote:I don’t think anyone is worried about where we are in the league Hazy mate. Maybe one person has mentioned it. People are worried because Pep isn’t learning and we’re playing awful tactics that don’t suit our players. Add to that some players are playing when they don’t deserve to. That’s worrying.


We got a fired up WH on saturday 45 mins we were poor. Second half we should have won 4/5 -1 Pep only brought on KDB because other than Foden we lack cutting edge. Without Sergio Jesus the stats speak a thousand words. Hope its a blip, mate I just do not get the hate. Pep is single minded at City every manager will have to be even a flavour of the month German who has won nothing all be it in a one team league.


Your worse than the fuckign Woke club at times Hazy.

No one hates baldie or even Sterling.....The only borderline dislike /hate are for his tactics and line ups and Sterling's embarrassing misses.

You make excuse after excuse for us not winning games'' if this player or that player had scored then we would have won'' instead of stating the truth of the matter which is 'if Baldie had played player's in their correct roles we would have won at a canter or if he had played players that deserved to play (Foden to name just one ) from the OFF, instead of players like fuckign Garcia who will leave NO MATTER WHAT in January or next summer , then maybe we would have had enough on the pitch to win outright instead of relying on Sterling to 'get us out of the shit after going a goal down etc.

The whole fucking saga is down to Baldie who still doesn't know if hes coming or going and MCFC have allowed him carte blanche on timelines to make his mind up.

Disgraceful.


Fuck all to add you have your opinion I have mine "WOKE" HAHA - JOKE COMMENTS FROM A JOKER !!
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Re: Guardiola Should Be Given To Xmas

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Mon Oct 26, 2020 12:07 pm

Hazy2 wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Hazy2 wrote:
Mase wrote:I don’t think anyone is worried about where we are in the league Hazy mate. Maybe one person has mentioned it. People are worried because Pep isn’t learning and we’re playing awful tactics that don’t suit our players. Add to that some players are playing when they don’t deserve to. That’s worrying.


We got a fired up WH on saturday 45 mins we were poor. Second half we should have won 4/5 -1 Pep only brought on KDB because other than Foden we lack cutting edge. Without Sergio Jesus the stats speak a thousand words. Hope its a blip, mate I just do not get the hate. Pep is single minded at City every manager will have to be even a flavour of the month German who has won nothing all be it in a one team league.


Your worse than the fuckign Woke club at times Hazy.

No one hates baldie or even Sterling.....The only borderline dislike /hate are for his tactics and line ups and Sterling's embarrassing misses.

You make excuse after excuse for us not winning games'' if this player or that player had scored then we would have won'' instead of stating the truth of the matter which is 'if Baldie had played player's in their correct roles we would have won at a canter or if he had played players that deserved to play (Foden to name just one ) from the OFF, instead of players like fuckign Garcia who will leave NO MATTER WHAT in January or next summer , then maybe we would have had enough on the pitch to win outright instead of relying on Sterling to 'get us out of the shit after going a goal down etc.

The whole fucking saga is down to Baldie who still doesn't know if hes coming or going and MCFC have allowed him carte blanche on timelines to make his mind up.

Disgraceful.


Fuck all to add you have your opinion I have mine "WOKE" HAHA - JOKE COMMENTS FROM A JOKER !!


Fuck all to add ? You just added ... you fuckign clown.
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Re: Guardiola Should Be Given To Xmas

Postby Hazy2 » Mon Oct 26, 2020 12:18 pm

carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Hazy2 wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Hazy2 wrote:
Mase wrote:I don’t think anyone is worried about where we are in the league Hazy mate. Maybe one person has mentioned it. People are worried because Pep isn’t learning and we’re playing awful tactics that don’t suit our players. Add to that some players are playing when they don’t deserve to. That’s worrying.


We got a fired up WH on saturday 45 mins we were poor. Second half we should have won 4/5 -1 Pep only brought on KDB because other than Foden we lack cutting edge. Without Sergio Jesus the stats speak a thousand words. Hope its a blip, mate I just do not get the hate. Pep is single minded at City every manager will have to be even a flavour of the month German who has won nothing all be it in a one team league.


Your worse than the fuckign Woke club at times Hazy.

No one hates baldie or even Sterling.....The only borderline dislike /hate are for his tactics and line ups and Sterling's embarrassing misses.

You make excuse after excuse for us not winning games'' if this player or that player had scored then we would have won'' instead of stating the truth of the matter which is 'if Baldie had played player's in their correct roles we would have won at a canter or if he had played players that deserved to play (Foden to name just one ) from the OFF, instead of players like fuckign Garcia who will leave NO MATTER WHAT in January or next summer , then maybe we would have had enough on the pitch to win outright instead of relying on Sterling to 'get us out of the shit after going a goal down etc.

The whole fucking saga is down to Baldie who still doesn't know if hes coming or going and MCFC have allowed him carte blanche on timelines to make his mind up.

Disgraceful.


Fuck all to add you have your opinion I have mine "WOKE" HAHA - JOKE COMMENTS FROM A JOKER !!


Fuck all to add ? You just added ... you fuckign clown.


I'm not sure if it's Billy Crysta or Billy Smart you need to see - you are becoming our Blue Loon ! Chill out FFS.
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Re: Guardiola Should Be Given To Xmas

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Mon Oct 26, 2020 12:29 pm

At least I stick to my beliefs Hazy...you go hot and cold all the time.......contradict yourself in numerous posts of yours.Questioning if Pep should stay or go in one post and then say you support him and to stop the fucking 'hate' in another !!

Call me a Joker and expect me to walk away ?....not going to happen is it.
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Re: Guardiola Should Be Given To Xmas

Postby Hazy2 » Mon Oct 26, 2020 12:54 pm

carl_feedthegoat wrote:At least I stick to my beliefs Hazy...you go hot and cold all the time.......contradict yourself in numerous posts of yours.Questioning if Pep should stay or go in one post and then say you support him and to stop the fucking 'hate' in another !!

Call me a Joker and expect me to walk away ?....not going to happen is it.


I am sticking with what we have,A depleated forward line improving at the back. Pep is marmite I said it weeks ago. but to lump about like you do is a joke, We are the best run club on the planet. Yes we have dropped the ball on a forward or 2 IMO, but it will not be lack of vision, trying, I was raging at Raheem and Marhrez for the same old shit week in week out. on Saturday. Raz stats are poor he would have 35 if he was a natural, he's not yet without him upfront as it stand's what ?

For me we lack an athletic MF and Rodri is pants with whoever he plays with. He is the problem in the centre of the park. Cancelo jogs about Foden shamed him on Saturday another 60 mill !

Garcia - The club are working on him staying- Keeping him as part of the squad is right JUST look at the forward line. We have injuries in every department, still we are in it . A positive We have conceded 8 goals 5 in one game so things could be getting right at the back. Goals win us the league- it needs sorting, as for Scousers looking like a siv. As for WOKE - Fuck off you have known me long enough, Pep is being watched and yes he looks like its coming to and end to me, I make no excuses for him he set the bar he is miles of it at present x
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Re: Guardiola Should Be Given To Xmas

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Mon Oct 26, 2020 1:34 pm

Hazy2 wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:At least I stick to my beliefs Hazy...you go hot and cold all the time.......contradict yourself in numerous posts of yours.Questioning if Pep should stay or go in one post and then say you support him and to stop the fucking 'hate' in another !!

Call me a Joker and expect me to walk away ?....not going to happen is it.


I am sticking with what we have,A depleated forward line improving at the back. Pep is marmite I said it weeks ago. but to lump about like you do is a joke, We are the best run club on the planet. Yes we have dropped the ball on a forward or 2 IMO, but it will not be lack of vision, trying, I was raging at Raheem and Marhrez for the same old shit week in week out. on Saturday. Raz stats are poor he would have 35 if he was a natural, he's not yet without him upfront as it stand's what ?

For me we lack an athletic MF and Rodri is pants with whoever he plays with. He is the problem in the centre of the park. Cancelo jogs about Foden shamed him on Saturday another 60 mill !

Garcia - The club are working on him staying- Keeping him as part of the squad is right JUST look at the forward line. We have injuries in every department, still we are in it . A positive We have conceded 8 goals 5 in one game so things could be getting right at the back. Goals win us the league- it needs sorting, as for Scousers looking like a siv. As for WOKE - Fuck off you have known me long enough, Pep is being watched and yes he looks like its coming to and end to me, I make no excuses for him he set the bar he is miles of it at present x


I called you woke as you do what they do, which is to accuse dissenters with incendiary words like 'hate' when no one has said they hate PeP or hate Sterling(Not to my knowledge) - you are going to be hauled over the coals for it and rightly so.

The facts are the facts Hazy - PeP is responsible for all transfers and yes...hes the one that says yes or no , finances permitting.
Hes bought players that do not fit into our playing style ..................his fault and his fault alone.

I put managers in my businesses and if they don't perform (and Ive made some shocking decisions in this area over the last 5 years or so )my partners point the finger at me and only me and it costs our company lots of money........I take the blame 100% I do.

So lets not make any excuses for Pep's dross in the transfer market or the way he sets us out to play - hes been lacking for many many months now..its there for all to witness.

If a miracle happens and he starts to rectify his stubborn choices and commits to another 3 years then of course I will support him....but we both know that wont happen as he hasn't changed his ways since he got into management.
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Re: Guardiola Should Be Given To Xmas

Postby stupot » Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:00 pm

The thing is Carl you may try and convince everyone oh here that you've never said you hate Pep but the fact is you've slagged him off continuously and not just the last 12 months.
In the Centurions season you said he'd not done anything more than Pellegrini, in the treble season you were calling him right through the last few months when we won every single game.
The fact is Pellegrini's last season was glossed over for reaching the CL Semi but we avoided the Europa through the rags messing up at West Ham. Pep improved it massively his 1st season then we had the 198 points and 5 trophies over 2 seasons then last seasons disaster when we were 15 points clear of 3rd with another trophy.
I'm certainly not blind to his mistakes but if he left tomorrow there would be a queue of top clubs all around the world after him. I suppose we could always get Pellegrini back.
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Re: Guardiola Should Be Given To Xmas

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:23 pm

stupot wrote:I'm certainly not blind to his mistakes but if he left tomorrow there would be a queue of top clubs all around the world after him. I suppose we could always get Pellegrini back.


If he left we would have the worlds best managers wanting to manage us ( They would form a queue) and if they are given a fraction of the finance that PeP has had at his disposal I'm sure they wont be bringing in dross like he has done.........................more importantly they wont be playing Gundo and Rodri together again......or Fernandhino in defense.

I'm getting all giddy with excitement after writing that wishful post.

Edit - lets change Dross for average (Mendy apart)
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Re: Guardiola Should Be Given To Xmas

Postby stupot » Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:36 pm

If you went anywhere in the world right now and asked any football fan to name these supposed top managers- Pep's name would come up.
I know you like facts, that's a fact.
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