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Postby Mike J » Fri Jun 25, 2010 4:46 pm

johnny crossan wrote:[youtube]QCO6smQrjJ8[/youtube]

is that a tolmie clue?
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Postby johnny crossan » Fri Jun 25, 2010 4:50 pm

Mike J wrote:
johnny crossan wrote:[youtube]QCO6smQrjJ8[/youtube]

is that a tolmie clue?


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Postby Slim » Fri Jun 25, 2010 5:00 pm

CityGer wrote:
DoomMerchant wrote:
Goaters 103 wrote:
DoomMerchant wrote:
Slim wrote:I am positive the Chelsea thing over Silva is just smoke from the agent. Okay, he is a good player, but why in the hell would anyone try to highjack a deal City were involved in? Everyone we have bought so far has been well overvalued and I imagine whatever the figure, the same applies to Silva. There is easily better value for money elsewhere and it wouldn't be in their best interests to open a bidding war with City anyway cause we can respond in kind.


i can't think of anyone we've paid anything close to market value around since the takeover. The surcharge feels like about a 100% uplift on actual player value on average.

cheers


I'd say Adam Johnson was cheap at the price, and fair market value.

"Cheers"


good shout...i forgot about the Jinky. What a bargain really. Beyond him? Barry? well, he was in the last year of his contract but you could make an argument that 12M for him was reasonable.

My point still stands.

cheers


Vinny was excellent value, Zabba wasn't bad.


Both bought before the money came in.
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Postby Slim » Fri Jun 25, 2010 5:01 pm

Mike J wrote:
johnny crossan wrote:[youtube]QCO6smQrjJ8[/youtube]

is that a tolmie clue?


Easy, name of the horse.
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Postby Kladze » Fri Jun 25, 2010 5:41 pm

Slim wrote:
Mike J wrote:
johnny crossan wrote:[youtube]QCO6smQrjJ8[/youtube]

is that a tolmie clue?


Easy, name of the horse.


Desert Orchid? :s
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Postby Mark (Blue Army) » Fri Jun 25, 2010 5:42 pm

Weiss flattered by Toon interest

Manchester City winger Vladimir Weiss would be flattered by reported interest from Newcastle, according to his agent Juraj Venglos.

The St James' Park have been linked with move for the 20-year-old Slovakia international, who has helped his side reach the last 16 of the World Cup in South Africa.

In January, Weiss joined Bolton on loan, making 13 appearances and contributed to Owen Coyle's side avoiding relegation from the top flight.

Venglos told TASR: "Vladimir would surely be flattered by the chance to play regularly at a club as big as Newcastle United.

"I know of Newcastle's interest only from the media. In any case, Vladmimir naturally wants to play at a good club, but he will have to make a decision himself.

"Whether there is any truth in it or not, one thing is for sure - any possible negotiations will begin only after the World Cup."

Weiss moved to Manchester City in 2006 and proved to be an instant hit at Eastlands, winning the FA Youth Cup in 2007.

The youngster had to wait until 2009 before scoring his first senior goal against Arsenal in the Carling Cup.

In the same year, the promising Slovakian signed a new contract at City, keeping him at the club until 2012.

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Postby Slim » Fri Jun 25, 2010 5:44 pm

Kladze wrote:
Slim wrote:
Mike J wrote:
johnny crossan wrote:[youtube]QCO6smQrjJ8[/youtube]

is that a tolmie clue?


Easy, name of the horse.


Desert Orchid? :s


I thought it was Dirty Sanchez? :)
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Postby Im_Spartacus » Fri Jun 25, 2010 6:52 pm

Slim wrote:
CityGer wrote:Vinny was excellent value, Zabba wasn't bad.


Both bought before the money came in.



Not quite though.

I thought it was accepted now that the Sheik funded those August transfers.

Someone external must have funded the transfers because Frank's pot was empty after spunking it on Jo and I doubt Wardle had a spare £20m just "lying around" for the 3 signings after he had covered the club's costs that month. Either the new owners funded it, or provided Frank with guarantees to cover the cost of the players.
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Postby Slim » Fri Jun 25, 2010 7:02 pm

johnpb78 wrote:
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CityGer wrote:Vinny was excellent value, Zabba wasn't bad.


Both bought before the money came in.



Not quite though.

I thought it was accepted now that the Sheik funded those August transfers.

Someone external must have funded the transfers because Frank's pot was empty after spunking it on Jo and I doubt Wardle had a spare £20m just "lying around" for the 3 signings after he had covered the club's costs that month. Either the new owners funded it, or provided Frank with guarantees to cover the cost of the players.


What you've written is bullshit, and here's why.

Whether the money came from Wardle or Frank or ADU, it doesn't matter because at the time we transferred Kompany and Zabs, the rest of the footballing world didn't know we had oodles of cash. As they didn't know, then there wasn't a City surcharge like every other transfer(with the exception of Jinky and who knows how much we end up paying for him, £1M for an England cap, etc). So even if the Sheikh wrote a personal cheque for Kompany, until the 1st September when it was announced to the world, transfers like Lescott and RSC wouldn't have happened.
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Postby Goaters 103 » Fri Jun 25, 2010 8:59 pm

DoomMerchant wrote:
Goaters 103 wrote:
DoomMerchant wrote:
Slim wrote:I am positive the Chelsea thing over Silva is just smoke from the agent. Okay, he is a good player, but why in the hell would anyone try to highjack a deal City were involved in? Everyone we have bought so far has been well overvalued and I imagine whatever the figure, the same applies to Silva. There is easily better value for money elsewhere and it wouldn't be in their best interests to open a bidding war with City anyway cause we can respond in kind.


i can't think of anyone we've paid anything close to market value around since the takeover. The surcharge feels like about a 100% uplift on actual player value on average.

cheers


I'd say Adam Johnson was cheap at the price, and fair market value.

"Cheers"


good shout...i forgot about the Jinky. What a bargain really. Beyond him? Barry? well, he was in the last year of his contract but you could make an argument that 12M for him was reasonable.

My point still stands.

cheers


I'd say you stated you couldn't think of a single player - with Johnson, Barry, Given and Tevez there's four for you.

Your point stands on certain player values, but hardly on across the board.
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Postby Bojinov's left foot » Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:00 pm

Silva would be a fantastic signing equally YaYa would be immense.

If we get these two then it really improves our 1st team greatly.

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Postby DoomMerchant » Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:37 pm

Goaters 103 wrote:
DoomMerchant wrote:
Goaters 103 wrote:
DoomMerchant wrote:
Slim wrote:I am positive the Chelsea thing over Silva is just smoke from the agent. Okay, he is a good player, but why in the hell would anyone try to highjack a deal City were involved in? Everyone we have bought so far has been well overvalued and I imagine whatever the figure, the same applies to Silva. There is easily better value for money elsewhere and it wouldn't be in their best interests to open a bidding war with City anyway cause we can respond in kind.


i can't think of anyone we've paid anything close to market value around since the takeover. The surcharge feels like about a 100% uplift on actual player value on average.

cheers


I'd say Adam Johnson was cheap at the price, and fair market value.

"Cheers"


good shout...i forgot about the Jinky. What a bargain really. Beyond him? Barry? well, he was in the last year of his contract but you could make an argument that 12M for him was reasonable.

My point still stands.

cheers


I'd say you stated you couldn't think of a single player - with Johnson, Barry, Given and Tevez there's four for you.

Your point stands on certain player values, but hardly on across the board.


wrong. we're getting mugged in the marketplace dude. Fess up. It's not your fault, is it?

Tevez -- no one would have paid what we did. He seems worth it now cuz he's performed. Given, same for him. No one else was in for Given. Barry was out of contract basically...12M for him or nothing the next year. Get it? Villa had to cash in. He hasn't exactly taken the world by storm for 12M, has he?

Johnson ill give you. he was a steal at his price point.

You can find two at a stretch if you include Given, but the premise of my point still stands. We're getting mugged in the marketplace, and i don't think we can stop it...it is what it is for a few windows. Until we don't really NEED to buy this is how it will be. Get comfy with it. I am.

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Postby Goaters 103 » Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:51 pm

I'd say Adam Johnson was cheap at the price, and fair market value.

"Cheers"[/quote]

good shout...i forgot about the Jinky. What a bargain really. Beyond him? Barry? well, he was in the last year of his contract but you could make an argument that 12M for him was reasonable.

My point still stands.

cheers[/quote]

I'd say you stated you couldn't think of a single player - with Johnson, Barry, Given and Tevez there's four for you.

Your point stands on certain player values, but hardly on across the board.[/quote]

wrong. we're getting mugged in the marketplace dude. Fess up. It's not your fault, is it?

Tevez -- no one would have paid what we did. He seems worth it now cuz he's performed. Given, same for him. No one else was in for Given. Barry was out of contract basically...12M for him or nothing the next year. Get it? Villa had to cash in. He hasn't exactly taken the world by storm for 12M, has he?

Johnson ill give you. he was a steal at his price point.

You can find two at a stretch if you include Given, but the premise of my point still stands. We're getting mugged in the marketplace, and i don't think we can stop it...it is what it is for a few windows. Until we don't really NEED to buy this is how it will be. Get comfy with it. I am.

cheers

cheers[/quote]

Oh Im comfy with it, I just dont agree with you. Barry was a steal and others - Spurs, Liverpool to name 2 - would have easily paid that for him; Redknapp admitted it but couldnt match our wages, whilst Liverpool ended up paying £18m for Aquilani.

We are paying over the odds for some players, agreed and trust me I personally am not bothered one bit as its an advantage we have, but to suggest that its happened completely across the board I dont agree with.

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Postby blootoof » Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:03 pm

Read this thread its priceless ---> http://community.manutd.com/forums/t/10 ... geIndex=58
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Postby dazby » Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:21 pm

I got through 1 page of that Toofy. That was horrible.
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Postby blootoof » Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:37 pm

"He's the best player in the world"

*City bid*

"He's the most overrated player in the world"
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Postby Blue Blood » Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:51 pm

blootoof wrote:"He's the best player in the world"

*City bid*

"He's the most overrated player in the world"


Ahhh typical Scum fans... and besides why are they even discussing Silva? He's more than a little above there budget these days... I hear Hull are releasing a few players, if its a big name signing they are after theres none bigger than van hesselink. Sign him up bacon, lol.
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Postby Mark (Blue Army) » Sat Jun 26, 2010 12:37 am

blootoof wrote:"He's the best player in the world"

*City bid*

"He's the most overrated player in the world"


Haha,and they call us the bitters.
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Postby Wooders » Sat Jun 26, 2010 6:40 am

I do agree that silva is over-rated
10 million + RSC would be a fair price
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Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Sat Jun 26, 2010 8:03 am

Wooders wrote:I do agree that silva is over-rated
10 million + RSC would be a fair price


you are not entirely wrong although 10m would not get his left sock. I'm slightly worried who he'd cope with physical nature of the game. He has pace and skill in abundance but he will not defend anymore than Petrov. If we buy him, we need to play him on the wing at least for the first few seasons.
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