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Re: Early days but a bit worried.

Postby xavi6 » Wed Jul 24, 2013 6:20 am

xavi6 wrote:Having a third striker shouldn't even be up for the debate, it's a must if we are to compete on three or four fronts next season.

Look what happened Aguero in the first game last time out. If we only have him, Dzeko and a half crocked Guidetti then we're fucked imo.

Losing Tevez and Balotelli I can handle but not replacing at least one of them will have me very worried.


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Re: Early days but a bit worried.

Postby Original Dub » Wed Jul 24, 2013 7:47 am

Not worried at all.

Navas and Jovetic in particular will take a lot of the creative burden from silva and that was my main concern.

Silva had to do far too much over the last two seasons. Looking for a like for like player would have been impossible. Sure, we could have found a mata or similar but they are never gonna rotate with silva.

No, we have at least a plan b now and possibly c.

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Re: Early days but a bit worried.

Postby Slim » Wed Jul 24, 2013 8:46 am

NQDP, Negredo whilst being the most wasteful player in the top five divisions across Europe last season, also created about a third of his chances by himself, he is not just a player to get on the end of other player's work. Sort of player who can be the only one in the opposition half and still manage to get a shot away. (Invert Nasri and you'll get the idea)
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Re: Early days but a bit worried.

Postby ashton287 » Wed Jul 24, 2013 9:43 am

Slim wrote:NQDP, Negredo whilst being the most wasteful player in the top five divisions across Europe last season, also created about a third of his chances by himself, he is not just a player to get on the end of other player's work. Sort of player who can be the only one in the opposition half and still manage to get a shot away. (Invert Nasri and you'll get the idea)


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Re: Early days but a bit worried.

Postby Slim » Wed Jul 24, 2013 9:50 am

ashton287 wrote:
Slim wrote:NQDP, Negredo whilst being the most wasteful player in the top five divisions across Europe last season, also created about a third of his chances by himself, he is not just a player to get on the end of other player's work. Sort of player who can be the only one in the opposition half and still manage to get a shot away. (Invert Nasri and you'll get the idea)


Most wasteful?


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Re: Early days but a bit worried.

Postby Lee_R » Wed Jul 24, 2013 10:11 am

Slim wrote:Are we still worried

I am very happy with the transfer window so far, maybe replace one of our left backs and a 4th centrehalf, but can't think of another position screaming out for attention.


No.. raring to go now. Cant fathom why but very excited about Neggy
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Re: Early days but a bit worried.

Postby Clowncrete » Wed Jul 24, 2013 11:23 am

Seems like some people have forgotten Nasri and his great form going into off-season..
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Re: Early days but a bit worried.

Postby Nigels Tackle » Wed Jul 24, 2013 11:41 am

Slim wrote:
ashton287 wrote:
Slim wrote:NQDP, Negredo whilst being the most wasteful player in the top five divisions across Europe last season, also created about a third of his chances by himself, he is not just a player to get on the end of other player's work. Sort of player who can be the only one in the opposition half and still manage to get a shot away. (Invert Nasri and you'll get the idea)


Most wasteful?


Mongo confused?


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Re: Early days but a bit worried.

Postby Alioune DVToure » Wed Jul 24, 2013 11:52 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Slim wrote:Are we still worried?

I am very happy with the transfer window so far, maybe replace one of our left backs and a 4th centrehalf, but can't think of another position screaming out for attention.


Lot of it depends on were these Pellegrini's players. There are some boom or bust signings like Jovetic and Fernandinho who are taking step up as far as competition goes. Navas is a role player. Only Negredo seems pretty surefire to me and even he will need steady providers of chances behind him in order to succeed.


What's wrong with being a role player? He brings something we've badly needed. As for Jovetic, I thought you'd be delighted having previously expressed your dismay at us signing 'a bunch of 28 year-olds'. Negredo will get plenty of service from Navas, as was the case at Sevilla, and Fernandinho freshens up and livens up our midfield options. All four players are perfect fits from my point of view.

You seem determined to be a role player yourself this summer: Dr Naysayer.

Cheer up you miserable bastard. Our squad is the envy of the league.
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Re: Early days but a bit worried.

Postby dazlebluefrog » Wed Jul 24, 2013 11:55 am

i'm fcuking loving this pre-season we have our players already while scum,chelski etc are fighting over shrek and company ,bring on the new season
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Re: Early days but a bit worried.

Postby bigblue » Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:55 pm

NQDP you are one seriously miserable bastard.

And what happened to this 4-2-2-2 formation that you said was 100 percent certain? I haven't heard any mention of it besides some magnets being arranged in a video you posted.

Miserable bastard always complaining.
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Re: Early days but a bit worried.

Postby Original Dub » Wed Jul 24, 2013 4:03 pm

bigblue wrote:NQDP you are one seriously miserable bastard.

And what happened to this 4-2-2-2 formation that you said was 100 percent certain? I haven't heard any mention of it besides some magnets being arranged in a video you posted.

Miserable bastard always complaining.


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Re: Early days but a bit worried.

Postby Moonchesteri » Wed Jul 24, 2013 4:47 pm

Alioune DVToure wrote:
What's wrong with being a role player? He brings something we've badly needed. As for Jovetic, I thought you'd be delighted having previously expressed your dismay at us signing 'a bunch of 28 year-olds'. Negredo will get plenty of service from Navas, as was the case at Sevilla, and Fernandinho freshens up and livens up our midfield options. All four players are perfect fits from my point of view.

You seem determined to be a role player yourself this summer: Dr Naysayer.

Cheer up you miserable bastard. Our squad is the envy of the league.


It really is, so many options, so good players throughout the squad.

But, imo people are taking it for granted that these players will fit right in and perform as we hope. I haven't seen enough of them all to be really bullish about our signings (esp.Jovetic and Fernandinho). I wouldn't be shocked if one of these four would turn out to be a 'flop'. And imo it is Likely that one or two of these will not have the impact we are hoping for. We will see, either way I'm buzzing & can't wait for the season to start!
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Re: Early days but a bit worried.

Postby DoomMerchant » Wed Jul 24, 2013 5:04 pm

Even the cunts on talkshite cannot talk any smack on our summer spree.

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Re: Early days but a bit worried.

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Wed Jul 24, 2013 5:19 pm

bigblue wrote:NQDP you are one seriously miserable bastard.

And what happened to this 4-2-2-2 formation that you said was 100 percent certain? I haven't heard any mention of it besides some magnets being arranged in a video you posted.

Miserable bastard always complaining.


I said he is two up front guy. Now tell me how we will line up. 50 quid to charity cause that four out of five first league games we will start with two up front. You game?
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Re: Early days but a bit worried.

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Wed Jul 24, 2013 5:31 pm

Alioune DVToure wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Slim wrote:Are we still worried?

I am very happy with the transfer window so far, maybe replace one of our left backs and a 4th centrehalf, but can't think of another position screaming out for attention.


Lot of it depends on were these Pellegrini's players. There are some boom or bust signings like Jovetic and Fernandinho who are taking step up as far as competition goes. Navas is a role player. Only Negredo seems pretty surefire to me and even he will need steady providers of chances behind him in order to succeed.


What's wrong with being a role player? He brings something we've badly needed. As for Jovetic, I thought you'd be delighted having previously expressed your dismay at us signing 'a bunch of 28 year-olds'. Negredo will get plenty of service from Navas, as was the case at Sevilla, and Fernandinho freshens up and livens up our midfield options. All four players are perfect fits from my point of view.

You seem determined to be a role player yourself this summer: Dr Naysayer.

Cheer up you miserable bastard. Our squad is the envy of the league.


Did I not express my delight of signing Josvetic? Yes I did. Did I not express my delight of Navas signing? Yes I did.

And there's nothing wrong with role players as long as nothing else is expected of them.

I'm merely wondering how it all will work out under The Engineer. I'm not one for "Tick-tock" posts or blind unwarranted expectations for players we've signed. I'm trying to look for bigger picture. Now I've been part of this site long enough to know that half of the people claiming to be "happy" about everything will be critisising the players we've signed and asking for managers head in six months. Because things didn't go as they "expected" meaning they never got the bigger picture in the first place.
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Re: Early days but a bit worried.

Postby Alioune DVToure » Wed Jul 24, 2013 7:30 pm

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Did I not express my delight of signing Josvetic? Yes I did. Did I not express my delight of Navas signing? Yes I did.

And there's nothing wrong with role players as long as nothing else is expected of them.

I'm merely wondering how it all will work out under The Engineer. I'm not one for "Tick-tock" posts or blind unwarranted expectations for players we've signed. I'm trying to look for bigger picture. Now I've been part of this site long enough to know that half of the people claiming to be "happy" about everything will be critisising the players we've signed and asking for managers head in six months. Because things didn't go as they "expected" meaning they never got the bigger picture in the first place.


And you know I won't be among them.

No signings are guaranteed hits but the business we've done is exactly the business we needed to do: pace and penetration out wide, a mobile CM who's comfortable in possession, a hot prospect and another good striker. Whichever way you dress it up, I can't help but feel like the glass is almost full and you're seeing fuck all in it.
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Re: Early days but a bit worried.

Postby Alioune DVToure » Wed Jul 24, 2013 7:32 pm

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
I said he is two up front guy. Now tell me how we will line up. 50 quid to charity cause that four out of five first league games we will start with two up front. You game?


Haha. Remember the last money-to-charity bet you made on here?
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Re: Early days but a bit worried.

Postby bigblue » Wed Jul 24, 2013 10:11 pm

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
bigblue wrote:NQDP you are one seriously miserable bastard.

And what happened to this 4-2-2-2 formation that you said was 100 percent certain? I haven't heard any mention of it besides some magnets being arranged in a video you posted.

Miserable bastard always complaining.


I said he is two up front guy. Now tell me how we will line up. 50 quid to charity cause that four out of five first league games we will start with two up front. You game?


I'm pretty sure you have been adamant that he plays 4-2-2-2:

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Do you assume that Pellegrini will play something other than 4-2-2-2 he so much believes in?


Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:But so far in his career he has been pretty strict about that 4-2-2-2 and that includes Malaga.


Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:I didn't see them more than handfull times last year but to me it seemed like he was using his beloved 4-2-2-2. That's definitely how he has set up his teams in the past.


Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Pellegrini is pretty strict 4-2-2-2 man.


Do you still stand by this????? Because it seems you think Pellegrini plays a 4-2-2-2. When I haven't really anyone else echo that or any hint that this will happen at City.
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Re: Early days but a bit worried.

Postby Ted Hughes » Wed Jul 24, 2013 10:22 pm

It's one of the systems he has used but he talked himself tonight about using Aguero as a lone striker, so he has more than one idea in mind.
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