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Re: Guardiola Should Be Given To Xmas

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:12 pm

stupot wrote:If you went anywhere in the world right now and asked any football fan to name these supposed top managers- Pep's name would come up.
I know you like facts, that's a fact.


Not at Bayern a Munich you won’t ( Fact )—— Now Barcelona 100% they love him and he loves them ,,,,so so so so much .(Fact)
You know Mourhino was arguably the best manage in the world - now he’s not . (Fact )

I do like facts - there’s 3 right there for you .
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Re: Guardiola Should Be Given To Xmas

Postby Hazy2 » Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:17 pm

carl_feedthegoat wrote:
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carl_feedthegoat wrote:At least I stick to my beliefs Hazy...you go hot and cold all the time.......contradict yourself in numerous posts of yours.Questioning if Pep should stay or go in one post and then say you support him and to stop the fucking 'hate' in another !!

Call me a Joker and expect me to walk away ?....not going to happen is it.


I am sticking with what we have,A depleated forward line improving at the back. Pep is marmite I said it weeks ago. but to lump about like you do is a joke, We are the best run club on the planet. Yes we have dropped the ball on a forward or 2 IMO, but it will not be lack of vision, trying, I was raging at Raheem and Marhrez for the same old shit week in week out. on Saturday. Raz stats are poor he would have 35 if he was a natural, he's not yet without him upfront as it stand's what ?

For me we lack an athletic MF and Rodri is pants with whoever he plays with. He is the problem in the centre of the park. Cancelo jogs about Foden shamed him on Saturday another 60 mill !

Garcia - The club are working on him staying- Keeping him as part of the squad is right JUST look at the forward line. We have injuries in every department, still we are in it . A positive We have conceded 8 goals 5 in one game so things could be getting right at the back. Goals win us the league- it needs sorting, as for Scousers looking like a siv. As for WOKE - Fuck off you have known me long enough, Pep is being watched and yes he looks like its coming to and end to me, I make no excuses for him he set the bar he is miles of it at present x


I called you woke as you do what they do, which is to accuse dissenters with incendiary words like 'hate' when no one has said they hate PeP or hate Sterling(Not to my knowledge) - you are going to be hauled over the coals for it and rightly so.

The facts are the facts Hazy - PeP is responsible for all transfers and yes...hes the one that says yes or no , finances permitting.
Hes bought players that do not fit into our playing style ..................his fault and his fault alone.

I put managers in my businesses and if they don't perform (and Ive made some shocking decisions in this area over the last 5 years or so )my partners point the finger at me and only me and it costs our company lots of money........I take the blame 100% I do.

So lets not make any excuses for Pep's dross in the transfer market or the way he sets us out to play - hes been lacking for many many months now..its there for all to witness.

If a miracle happens and he starts to rectify his stubborn choices and commits to another 3 years then of course I will support him....but we both know that wont happen as he hasn't changed his ways since he got into management.


Mate I see Peps faults but he has banked his credit he is afforded the benefit of the doubt I do get the frustration I do but its on the players who cross the white line to slot the chances we create. I do not know how Raheem does it but he does. Others from Silva Mahrez do not pull the trigger when its the only option. Pep City need to clarify things if this continues. What is Woke btw
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Re: Guardiola Should Be Given To Xmas

Postby Hazy2 » Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:46 pm

Julian Nagelsmann in town this week !
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Re: Guardiola Should Be Given To Xmas

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Mon Oct 26, 2020 4:16 pm

Hazy2 wrote:Julian Nagelsmann in town this week !


We wont go far wrong having this man the ship if / when PeP goes.
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Re: Guardiola Should Be Given To Xmas

Postby Hazy2 » Mon Oct 26, 2020 4:48 pm

carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Hazy2 wrote:Julian Nagelsmann in town this week !


We wont go far wrong having this man the ship if / when PeP goes.


And according to the Daily Mail, there are two names on City's wish list: RB Leipzig boss Julian Nagelsmann and the former Tottenham head coach Mauricio Pochettino. Just saying - have they got it ?
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Re: Guardiola Should Be Given To Xmas

Postby Mase » Mon Oct 26, 2020 6:55 pm

Hazy2 wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Hazy2 wrote:Julian Nagelsmann in town this week !


We wont go far wrong having this man the ship if / when PeP goes.


And according to the Daily Mail, there are two names on City's wish list: RB Leipzig boss Julian Nagelsmann and the former Tottenham head coach Mauricio Pochettino. Just saying - have they got it ?


I’d be surprised if they have a plan tbh, as they seem so sure Pep will stay. I think they’ll end up with egg on their face.
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Re: Guardiola Should Be Given To Xmas

Postby PrezIke » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:33 pm

carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:It's a DISGRACE!


It is a disgrace ...allowing a 20 million pound a year manager carte blanch on when wants to leave....hes been here 4 and a bit years...not 20 fuckign years !!!

A disgrace that we haven't made his mind up for him.


Where's the loyalty for what he's given us btw?

back to back titles, when no one had done that in a decade. 100 points. Undefeated in League Cup and whatever FA cups he's won as well.

He's borderline revolutionary in terms of impact on English and global football that led to some of the most scintillating football ever witnessed.

Mancini gets massive love from our fans because he showed the love and played to the crowd (to save and cover his arse IMHO, which I found distasteful, self serving and splitting) not for what he really brought other than the 1st title and FA Cup. Worthy but Pep's been on another level and it took another genius and arguably one of the other best sides ever in Klopp/Liverpool to find a way to compete.

Pep doesn't do that so he gets slagged off and treated like a piece of rubbish.

Mancini caused several problems but I am certain some of the loudmouths calling for Pep's head LOVE Mancini like a God.

Was he here 20 years?

I will say the contract thing is tricky but I wrote this elsewhere I think he may be doing it because he's THAT much of a stand up person. Not the opposite.

He and Bielsa, his idol, are men of high honour. Pep doesn't want to stay if he thinks it will hurt the club or the players are tired of him.

Ideally a new contract would help and I can question it even if I can also get it. Tough situation all around but I think he is not 100% sure what is best just yet.
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Re: Guardiola Should Be Given To Xmas

Postby sheblue » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:41 pm

Mase wrote:
Hazy2 wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Hazy2 wrote:Julian Nagelsmann in town this week !


We wont go far wrong having this man the ship if / when PeP goes.


And according to the Daily Mail, there are two names on City's wish list: RB Leipzig boss Julian Nagelsmann and the former Tottenham head coach Mauricio Pochettino. Just saying - have they got it ?


I’d be surprised if they have a plan tbh, as they seem so sure Pep will stay. I think they’ll end up with egg on their face.


It would be gross negligence and utter stupidity if they were not keeping a very close eye on the progression of the potential Pep replacements.
There cant really be that many.
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Re: Guardiola Should Be Given To Xmas

Postby PrezIke » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:44 pm

Pep is so honest and also so not interested in explaining himself publicly that I think it causes him problems.

Say compared to Klopp, Mancini and even Mourinho who know how to use the media.

Pep could care less and I do think that hurts him with fans who want to feel love from their manager or that they "get them"

I wish he would do a Bielsa like Powerpoint lecture. Maybe some would calm down then a bit.

A few times when he sniped back at the media I know some liked it. Maybe he's burnt out from the media questioning him constantly and showing all the love they do for Liverpool that we ourselves even see and feel.

Maybe even the players feel some of the glimmer of his approach has worn off because he talks about CL so much but hasn't won in almost a decade with different clubs.

I want him to stay and I think we have a long season to see what happens especially given how strange this season is looking to be.

Some players drop off is a question mark. Some want to blame Pep, but then on the other hand some have blossomed.

That includes Kyle Walker who is FAR better than we expected him to be when most thought it was Stones that would be his prize English defender.
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Re: Guardiola Should Be Given To Xmas

Postby Mase » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:50 pm

PrezIke wrote:Pep is so honest


I could write a book about the lies he’s come out with mate. Most recent that we’ll be relying on Delap.
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Re: Guardiola Should Be Given To Xmas

Postby PrezIke » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:57 pm

Mase wrote:
PrezIke wrote:Pep is so honest


I could write a book about the lies he’s come out with mate. Most recent that we’ll be relying on Delap.


hah...ok I'll concede that when it comes to talking about players in press conferences he lies through his teeth constantly.
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Re: Guardiola Should Be Given To Xmas

Postby Mase » Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:00 pm

PrezIke wrote:
Mase wrote:
PrezIke wrote:Pep is so honest


I could write a book about the lies he’s come out with mate. Most recent that we’ll be relying on Delap.


hah...ok I'll concede that when it comes to talking about players in press conferences he lies through his teeth constantly.


Ultimately, I’d love it if he signed up again. But I’d like him to do it because he wants to and because he wants to keep winning. At the moment he doesn’t look like he does and he does. And if he’s not got it in him anymore I’d like him to be honest with us.
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Re: Guardiola Should Be Given To Xmas

Postby PrezIke » Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:00 pm

When I say he's honest I mean as in an honourable person. Someone who believes in things and sticks to them.

He and Beilsa are considered "stubborn" but in part that's because they are very devout about their beliefs.

Think of how Pep is about Catalan indpendence or other issues.

Actually, his standing up for players in public, which other managers traditionally might not do, is also about that. He won't throw you under the bus almost ever, as a player, in public.
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Re: Guardiola Should Be Given To Xmas

Postby Hazy2 » Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:04 pm

PrezIke wrote:
Mase wrote:
PrezIke wrote:Pep is so honest


I could write a book about the lies he’s come out with mate. Most recent that we’ll be relying on Delap.


hah...ok I'll concede that when it comes to talking about players in press conferences he lies through his teeth constantly.


They all lie, I half expect Klopp to announce false alarm Virgil is fine. City will be fine we beat UEFA we should be in a good place, should we not.
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Re: Guardiola Should Be Given To Xmas

Postby Mase » Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:04 pm

PrezIke wrote:When I say he's honest I mean as in an honourable person. Someone who believes in things and sticks to them.

He and Beilsa are considered "stubborn" but in part that's because they are very devout about their beliefs.

Think of how Pep is about Catalan indpendence or other issues.

Actually, his standing up for players in public, which other managers traditionally might not do, is also about that. He won't throw you under the bus almost ever, as a player, in public.


That’s fine not throwing them under the bus in public, and I agree with that. But what about sitting them on the bench the next game if they’ve played crap? How many games is he going to let Mahrez get away with? Last winter his refusal to drop Sterling was ridiculous. Why is Mendy undropable but Angelino was given one match a month? When will Rodri be dropped?
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Re: Guardiola Should Be Given To Xmas

Postby Hazy2 » Tue Oct 27, 2020 8:14 am

Mase wrote:
PrezIke wrote:When I say he's honest I mean as in an honourable person. Someone who believes in things and sticks to them.

He and Beilsa are considered "stubborn" but in part that's because they are very devout about their beliefs.

Think of how Pep is about Catalan indpendence or other issues.

Actually, his standing up for players in public, which other managers traditionally might not do, is also about that. He won't throw you under the bus almost ever, as a player, in public.


That’s fine not throwing them under the bus in public, and I agree with that. But what about sitting them on the bench the next game if they’ve played crap? How many games is he going to let Mahrez get away with? Last winter his refusal to drop Sterling was ridiculous. Why is Mendy unstoppable but Angelino was given one match a month? When will Rodri be dropped?


Rodri I give up Danillo could have done his job better than him, I Said to my son what does he do, he never tackles, all bookings are pull backs when he is caught out. Are we worse off without him in the side.
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Re: Guardiola Should Be Given To Xmas

Postby salford city » Tue Oct 27, 2020 9:51 am

Hazy2 wrote:
Mase wrote:
PrezIke wrote:When I say he's honest I mean as in an honourable person. Someone who believes in things and sticks to them.

He and Beilsa are considered "stubborn" but in part that's because they are very devout about their beliefs.

Think of how Pep is about Catalan indpendence or other issues.

Actually, his standing up for players in public, which other managers traditionally might not do, is also about that. He won't throw you under the bus almost ever, as a player, in public.


That’s fine not throwing them under the bus in public, and I agree with that. But what about sitting them on the bench the next game if they’ve played crap? How many games is he going to let Mahrez get away with? Last winter his refusal to drop Sterling was ridiculous. Why is Mendy unstoppable but Angelino was given one match a month? When will Rodri be dropped?


Rodri I give up Danillo could have done his job better than him, I Said to my son what does he do, he never tackles, all bookings are pull backs when he is caught out. Are we worse off without him in the side.


I was / am expecting Rodri to kick on this season but the early signs are not good. Agree with that booking comment, they are all the same in the main for shirt tugs on break-aways. Think he may be a mistake but I don't see Pep dropping him any time soon which says more about Pep than Rodri
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Re: Guardiola Should Be Given To Xmas

Postby ross.mcfc » Tue Oct 27, 2020 11:33 am

We could lose every game between now and Xmas and Pep will still be here in May. He sees out the contract, no matter what.

He's not going to be here next season. I was happy for him to stay at the start of the season but it's clear now he's outstayed his welcome. We're lucky to have the points we have. It's going to be like Pellers last season with players not giving a shit come November and we're not challenging for the League.

We'll be lucky to finish top 4 this year.
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Re: Guardiola Should Be Given To Xmas

Postby Hazy2 » Tue Oct 27, 2020 1:48 pm

salford city wrote:
Hazy2 wrote:
Mase wrote:
PrezIke wrote:When I say he's honest I mean as in an honourable person. Someone who believes in things and sticks to them.

He and Beilsa are considered "stubborn" but in part that's because they are very devout about their beliefs.

Think of how Pep is about Catalan indpendence or other issues.

Actually, his standing up for players in public, which other managers traditionally might not do, is also about that. He won't throw you under the bus almost ever, as a player, in public.


That’s fine not throwing them under the bus in public, and I agree with that. But what about sitting them on the bench the next game if they’ve played crap? How many games is he going to let Mahrez get away with? Last winter his refusal to drop Sterling was ridiculous. Why is Mendy unstoppable but Angelino was given one match a month? When will Rodri be dropped?


Rodri I give up Danillo could have done his job better than him, I Said to my son what does he do, he never tackles, all bookings are pull backs when he is caught out. Are we worse off without him in the side.


I was / am expecting Rodri to kick on this season but the early signs are not good. Agree with that booking comment, they are all the same in the main for shirt tugs on break-aways. Think he may be a mistake but I don't see Pep dropping him any time soon which says more about Pep than Rodri


Allan has taken to the Premier like a good un, if we do our planning as the chairman tells us why do we have a squad so unbalanced.
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Re: Guardiola Should Be Given To Xmas

Postby stupot » Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:01 pm

ross.mcfc wrote:We could lose every game between now and Xmas and Pep will still be here in May. He sees out the contract, no matter what.

He's not going to be here next season. I was happy for him to stay at the start of the season but it's clear now he's outstayed his welcome. We're lucky to have the points we have. It's going to be like Pellers last season with players not giving a shit come November and we're not challenging for the League.

We'll be lucky to finish top 4 this year.

How are we lucky to have the points exactly?
We had a shit 2nd half against Leicester so if we we deserve nothing from that game fair enough.
We weren't lucky with our point against Leeds, we would have won but for Eddy's mistake.
We weren't lucky with our point against West Ham, we should have won and we weren't lucky against Arsenal and Wolves.
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