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Original Dub wrote:

sweenyuk wrote:I can still not see why everyone see's Shay as the best goalie in the Prem. We have leaked goals consistently since he has been here. Before Given we had a good defensive record and crap attack, now our defence is a shambles, so we sold Dunne only for him to find form at Villa, bought proven internationals with no improvement and seen Birmingham go 12 games undefeted with one of our goalies in net for them..... Given believes his own Bull Shit and prances around the area thinking he is the worlds #1 in a game where he has conceeded 3 goals against a crap Sunderland side, just because we are still winning it at 4-3.... He is rooted to his line and fails to organise his defence. He makes great saves, but had he been in the right place in the first place he would not have needed to...

Ah hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!! What an attack on one of the world's best (and your own club's) goalkeepers??

Fucking hell, our defence was Given's fault now?!!

Which would, by your reasoning, make him the most improved keeper in the land, because we only leaked one goal in the last four games?!!

No, as much as I'm sure you have your reasons for thinking all of the above, I'll stick with what I've watched him do for about 10 years now and also what Trappatoni and Mancini have said "He's the best goalkeeper I've ever worked with" and "one of the top 5 in world football".

Nuff said.

Vhero wrote:

Original Dub wrote:

sweenyuk wrote:I can still not see why everyone see's Shay as the best goalie in the Prem. We have leaked goals consistently since he has been here. Before Given we had a good defensive record and crap attack, now our defence is a shambles, so we sold Dunne only for him to find form at Villa, bought proven internationals with no improvement and seen Birmingham go 12 games undefeted with one of our goalies in net for them..... Given believes his own Bull Shit and prances around the area thinking he is the worlds #1 in a game where he has conceeded 3 goals against a crap Sunderland side, just because we are still winning it at 4-3.... He is rooted to his line and fails to organise his defence. He makes great saves, but had he been in the right place in the first place he would not have needed to...

Ah hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!! What an attack on one of the world's best (and your own club's) goalkeepers??

Fucking hell, our defence was Given's fault now?!!

Which would, by your reasoning, make him the most improved keeper in the land, because we only leaked one goal in the last four games?!!

No, as much as I'm sure you have your reasons for thinking all of the above, I'll stick with what I've watched him do for about 10 years now and also what Trappatoni and Mancini have said "He's the best goalkeeper I've ever worked with" and "one of the top 5 in world football".

Nuff said.

I see where he was coming from with the goals being leaked ever since around the time we got Shay but that wasnt Shay to blame that was happening before Shay that's why Joe Harts shining now Hughes is to blame in my eyes for the leaking goals I think the last 4 games prove it and the fact Joe Hart left and instantly became a better keeper with a lesser defence. *Simples* Hughes could never organize the defence he blamed Dunne hell the fans blamed Dunne as we needed somebody to blame but it obviously wasn't Dunne it was bad tactics... It wasn't Dunne nor Shay now can we get over this and move on?

Bingo Lewis wrote:I'd hate to see Joe playing for England right now.
Being England's keeper at a young age seems to be a bit of a nightmare to be honest.
If he makes one mistake in any game, especially the world cup though, and its costs England the game, the media are on said young keepers back in some frenzied fashion. It fucks up a lot of keepers. Say what you want about foster, but he was a good upcoming young keeper until he fucked up for England, same with Green, although he has had another chance recently, same with Carson.
Stay away from it until you're prepared for the whole country to be slagging you off, and be able to bounce back from it succesfully.

Wooders wrote:

Bingo Lewis wrote:I'd hate to see Joe playing for England right now.
Being England's keeper at a young age seems to be a bit of a nightmare to be honest.
If he makes one mistake in any game, especially the world cup though, and its costs England the game, the media are on said young keepers back in some frenzied fashion. It fucks up a lot of keepers. Say what you want about foster, but he was a good upcoming young keeper until he fucked up for England, same with Green, although he has had another chance recently, same with Carson.
Stay away from it until you're prepared for the whole country to be slagging you off, and be able to bounce back from it succesfully.

Joe's got more bollocks than those 3 combined though. I think he will definately be wanting to get on that plane come the summer

Wooders wrote:I think your reasoning for it is flawed though - wouldn't have expected you to come out with that sort of pansyness