Ireland unsure about his future

[Original Dub]

i would be fucking gutted if we sold him. imo rags, arsenal, spurs and everton will all go for him.

he is a quality player.

Yeah and he will turn world class.

You can bet your ass on it.

We NEED to give him another summer to get back to full fitness. In full flow he is really top class.

I'm with you ALL the way on this.

Sunderland my bollox. The things he did last season were not that of a one season wonder striker or some shit... his vision and tenacity was explosive. His goals and assists were mere bonuses.

Top managers will see a lad that needs to be given his confidence and fitness back and the likes of Baconface, Redknapp and Wenger would have no problem going for him. 23 years old with loads to offer.

This season he has been pretty shit, but he's also been injured every fucking time he got a run in the team and that just didn't happen last season. We stand to lose nothing by giving him another season and quite a lot if we hand him over to those cunts.

[ant london]

Can I blame Trappatoni?

Or Richard Dunne?

Love Stevie and can't stand the above mentioned cocksuckers

[Original Dub]

Can I blame Trappatoni?

Or Richard Dunne?

Love Stevie and can't stand the above mentioned cocksuckers

Weird that you can't stand Richie Dunne and Trapp?

I mean Trapp doesn't use playmakers, but he is a quality manager. And Dunne is in the premier league team of the year and our record breaking POTY.

You're fucking weird Cunt C.

[ant london]

Can I blame Trappatoni?

Or Richard Dunne?

Love Stevie and can't stand the above mentioned cocksuckers

Weird that you can't stand Richie Dunne and Trapp?

I mean Trapp doesn't use playmakers, but he is a quality manager. And Dunne is in the premier league team of the year and our record breaking POTY.

You're fucking weird Cunt C.

I don't hate Dunne as a person, nor as a player....just as a City player

(actually I think he's a bit of a cunt but not a massive cunt like Robinho or Jo.....more like a Jimmy Bullard level cunt)

I am not weird though....no fuckin way ;-)

[Nick]

Im also unsure about his POOR attitude and WANK form.

He seemed like a bit of a twat warming up at the derby and didnt wanna be there. Hes stopped the fitness / runs / effort / challenges.

Again is this down to new fitness methods? A heart condition? The stopping of his kick boxing?

[Ted Hughes]

He's pretty much saying in that piece that he wants to stay but is worried we may dump him. Rumours going round the 'other place' suggest he's been told he figures in Mancini's plans.

Now I've recovered from his disgraceful non attempt to stop Scholes I can wait & see how he looks next season. If he's back to being a decent player then we benefit, if not we can sell him at Christmas.

[CityGer]

Just on SSN. I'm sure there's an MEN link but I don't have it.

I'm unsure about his future too. I'm sure his timing is bollocks though.

Sums it up perfectly.

[Mike J]

'If anything changes during the summer it will be down to the club, not me.'

the guy is a blue. he doesnt want to leave. i really hope mancini sees sense and keeps him.

[Douglas Higginbottom]

He has great talent and I am sure last season was not a one off. A bit worrying that it just didn't happen for him this year but Mancini must work with him pre season , shgow belief in him and get the talent to show again.

[blues-clues]

Ireland played his best football in partnership with Robinho and was best suited to a position at the top of the diamond. What verges on the bizarre is that we have a dirty great hole in our team between our defensive midfield and our forwards. When we play with Bellamy on the left Johnson on the right and Tevez and Ade up front there is not enough quality in the centre following up. Barry can move forward but we have nobody scoring goals and creating from the centre of midfield. Ireland should be that man, I don't think NDJ or Vince will ever fill that role. It is a symptom of our weak defence that leaves Mancini playing two defensive central midfield players instead of utilising Ireland or similar in a more advanced role. The other side effect of this weakness is that it draws Tevez too deep, he feels obliged or has been instructed to come back into midfield but that is a waste of his true talent. He cant play the killer pass, then make the run into the box and follow up his shot!

[steveo_88]

Last season to most will have looked like a one off to people because it was the first time Ireland got an extended run in the first team playing in the centre of midfield! Yes SP did play Ireland but used him as a temporary winger and Ireland is not and never will be a winger, so until last season we weren't able to see the best Ireland had to give.

If people think i'm typing bollox cast your minds back to a little Brazilian called Elano(who was never my favourite). When Elano played in the pocket behind the striker and was given a free hand the player was phenomanol. However when he filled in on the wing and full back he did a job but never had the same impact on the game as when he played in centre midfield.

[Original Dub]

He's pretty much saying in that piece that he wants to stay but is worried we may dump him. Rumours going round the 'other place' suggest he's been told he figures in Mancini's plans.

Now I've recovered from his disgraceful non attempt to stop Scholes I can wait & see how he looks next season. If he's back to being a decent player then we benefit, if not we can sell him at Christmas.

This is the fairest post on the subject. Try and get his confidence and form back and if it ain't working come Jan, maybe then we can decide.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

He's pretty much saying in that piece that he wants to stay but is worried we may dump him. Rumours going round the 'other place' suggest he's been told he figures in Mancini's plans.

Now I've recovered from his disgraceful non attempt to stop Scholes I can wait & see how he looks next season. If he's back to being a decent player then we benefit, if not we can sell him at Christmas.

This is the fairest post on the subject. Try and get his confidence and form back and if it ain't working come Jan, maybe then we can decide.

Overall, we can't sell whole squad in summer anyway and he is basically only attacking central midfielder we have. We need to get at least two better players in his position before we should even be thinking about selling.

If we are ditching off players, we need to start with strikers and get some quality over quantity there.

[Original Dub]

He's pretty much saying in that piece that he wants to stay but is worried we may dump him. Rumours going round the 'other place' suggest he's been told he figures in Mancini's plans.

Now I've recovered from his disgraceful non attempt to stop Scholes I can wait & see how he looks next season. If he's back to being a decent player then we benefit, if not we can sell him at Christmas.

This is the fairest post on the subject. Try and get his confidence and form back and if it ain't working come Jan, maybe then we can decide.

Overall, we can't sell whole squad in summer anyway and he is basically only attacking central midfielder we have. We need to get at least two better players in his position before we should even be thinking about selling.

If we are ditching off players, we need to start with strikers and get some quality over quantity there.

Yes, and we also need players who will fight for specific positions on the park with another player. Just moving one on and replacing like for like won't do the trick.

Also, he said he doesn't want to move, so leave him be. Since he properly matured and found his best position, he's had one outstanding season and one poor one. I want to find out which is the real Stevie and I've a feeling with the right guidance and staying injury free, I won't be disappointed.

[BobbyJ1956]

City have to keep Ireland. You guys saying there's no one else who can be that playmaker are dead right, unless Michael Johnson comes back. Can't just rely on AJ or Bellamy going down the wings, have to have someone putting balls through the middle. That's what Elano did, it's what Benarbia did before him, and it's fantastic to watch.

[Original Dub]

City have to keep Ireland. You guys saying there's no one else who can be that playmaker are dead right, unless Michael Johnson comes back. Can't just rely on AJ or Bellamy going down the wings, have to have someone putting balls through the middle. That's what Elano did, it's what Benarbia did before him, and it's fantastic to watch.

It is - there's nothing like a quality through ball and Ade thrives off them. He'll score shitloads with through balls coming from the centre.

Every top team uses both width and central attacking play. IMO its why we don't have champions league football right now. we should have gotten a playmaker in Jan, but maybe no top one was available.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

City have to keep Ireland. You guys saying there's no one else who can be that playmaker are dead right, unless Michael Johnson comes back. Can't just rely on AJ or Bellamy going down the wings, have to have someone putting balls through the middle. That's what Elano did, it's what Benarbia did before him, and it's fantastic to watch.

It is - there's nothing like a quality through ball and Ade thrives off them. He'll score shitloads with through balls coming from the centre.

Every top team uses both width and central attacking play. IMO its why we don't have champions league football right now. we should have gotten a playmaker in Jan, but maybe no top one was available.

I agree. That was the short coming all season. That glaring hole between (holding) midfielders and strikers. We someone who can occupy that space and provide through balls. Having good wingers is all well and good but if that's the only route we are attacking through, the opposition will just crowd flanks. Which happened numerous of occasions this season. Especially against more clever managers.

[Original Dub]

City have to keep Ireland. You guys saying there's no one else who can be that playmaker are dead right, unless Michael Johnson comes back. Can't just rely on AJ or Bellamy going down the wings, have to have someone putting balls through the middle. That's what Elano did, it's what Benarbia did before him, and it's fantastic to watch.

It is - there's nothing like a quality through ball and Ade thrives off them. He'll score shitloads with through balls coming from the centre.

Every top team uses both width and central attacking play. IMO its why we don't have champions league football right now. we should have gotten a playmaker in Jan, but maybe no top one was available.

I agree. That was the short coming all season. That glaring hole between (holding) midfielders and strikers. We someone who can occupy that space and provide through balls. Having good wingers is all well and good but if that's the only route we are attacking through, the opposition will just crowd flanks. Which happened numerous of occasions this season. Especially against more clever managers.

well it sticks out like a sore thumb now more than ever, so I'll be disgusted if we don't have one lined up as our FIRST signing.

Get fucking Kaka, or Gerrard. Yep, they'll do.

[brite blu sky]

WE KNOW, HE KNOWS, THE CLUB KNOWS, MANCINI KNOWS that steven ireland is a class player.

he has stated he wants to stay, previously that he would stay all his career.

Mancini has stated on camera that he believes Stevie is a very important player for the clubs future and is in his plans for the team.

until anything happens otherwise i am not going to beleive anything other than the above.

stop being sheep

[avoidconfusion]

Ireland should stay at least another season. Mancini needs to tinker with the midfield and who knows what exactly will happen in the summer and who we will sell and get in.

I think it would be premature to let Ireland go already.