Liverpool in further financial troubles???

[DoomMerchant]

Why should we feel sorry for Liverpool or see ourselves in that position. Liverpool, like any other club, have relied on their owners and management team to do the right thing and if they don't, then it's only them to blame. On the other hand, we seem to have a team that are shaping our club for a prosperous and safe future with not just the football to secure ourselves.

Maybe they can be everyones second team eh?

This is the club that sold it's soul to Americana, and stood by as [strike]social 'money' ( ie government and Liverpool city money)[/strike] was extracted out of Britain, to America for redesinging of stadiums etc, that never , ever stood a chance of being built. In a similar way to Man U paying 'Fees' for Administration of the club.

quite frankly they deserve everything that is coming to them.

what does Liverpool's foreign ownership have to do with it? Whether they are American or Chinese, etc...doesn't seem to matter much to me. Of course, for some, it's easier to bash them because they have foreign owners, who happen to be American.

Regardless, ultimately i think it's sad to some extent because the last thing the Premiership needs is big teams falling by the wayside while we are on the rise. I'm hoping for just the opposite...a golden era where 5-7 teams have a legit shot at the title every year and play cracking matches with some real spirit and sense of rivalry. A weakened Liverpool doesn't make that any more likely.

[john@staustell]

Why should we feel sorry for Liverpool or see ourselves in that position. Liverpool, like any other club, have relied on their owners and management team to do the right thing and if they don't, then it's only them to blame. On the other hand, we seem to have a team that are shaping our club for a prosperous and safe future with not just the football to secure ourselves.

Maybe they can be everyones second team eh?

This is the club that sold it's soul to Americana, and stood by as [strike]social 'money' ( ie government and Liverpool city money)[/strike] was extracted out of Britain, to America for redesinging of stadiums etc, that never , ever stood a chance of being built. In a similar way to Man U paying 'Fees' for Administration of the club.

quite frankly they deserve everything that is coming to them.

what does Liverpool's foreign ownership have to do with it? Whether they are American or Chinese, etc...doesn't seem to matter much to me. Of course, for some, it's easier to bash them because they have foreign owners, who happen to be American.

Regardless, ultimately i think it's sad to some extent because the last thing the Premiership needs is big teams falling by the wayside while we are on the rise. I'm hoping for just the opposite...a golden era where 5-7 teams have a legit shot at the title every year and play cracking matches with some real spirit and sense of rivalry. A weakened Liverpool doesn't make that any more likely.

I would imagine that the American owner reference is because the most common method - of these people and the Glazers - is to pay for their aquisition by haemorraging tens of millions of pounds out of the game into their pockets without laying out much.

Secondly 'big teams' come and go. Leeds and Newcastle went recently, and many others have in the past. Others come in - Chelsea, City, now Spurs etc. Scum spent 25 years in the non-title wasteland. So what?

In a couple of years Liverpool will be thought of like Forest, gone and forgotten. The Premiership does not NEED any team.

[DoomMerchant]

Why should we feel sorry for Liverpool or see ourselves in that position. Liverpool, like any other club, have relied on their owners and management team to do the right thing and if they don't, then it's only them to blame. On the other hand, we seem to have a team that are shaping our club for a prosperous and safe future with not just the football to secure ourselves.

Maybe they can be everyones second team eh?

This is the club that sold it's soul to Americana, and stood by as [strike]social 'money' ( ie government and Liverpool city money)[/strike] was extracted out of Britain, to America for redesinging of stadiums etc, that never , ever stood a chance of being built. In a similar way to Man U paying 'Fees' for Administration of the club.

quite frankly they deserve everything that is coming to them.

what does Liverpool's foreign ownership have to do with it? Whether they are American or Chinese, etc...doesn't seem to matter much to me. Of course, for some, it's easier to bash them because they have foreign owners, who happen to be American.

Regardless, ultimately i think it's sad to some extent because the last thing the Premiership needs is big teams falling by the wayside while we are on the rise. I'm hoping for just the opposite...a golden era where 5-7 teams have a legit shot at the title every year and play cracking matches with some real spirit and sense of rivalry. A weakened Liverpool doesn't make that any more likely.

I would imagine that the American owner reference is because the most common method - of these people and the Glazers - is to pay for their aquisition by haemorraging tens of millions of pounds out of the game into their pockets without laying out much.

Secondly 'big teams' come and go. Leeds and Newcastle went recently, and many others have in the past. Others come in - Chelsea, City, now Spurs etc. Scum spent 25 years in the non-title wasteland. So what?

In a couple of years Liverpool will be thought of like Forest, gone and forgotten. The Premiership does not NEED any team.

2 examples of American owners out of the entirety of English football. Hardly "the common method" of "these people."

And i think you are right about the Prem not "needing" any club. What does need clubs is competition and excitement. The Premiership, like any other sporting league, could find a way to be as dull as fucl and be a proper league in many people's minds i'm sure.

cheers

[zuricity]

DM were you around in the 60, 70 and 80's when IBM used to charge over the top prices for components on their computers ?
'Washers' costing tens of pounds rather than pennies ? It still get's done in this era, remember recently when one of the major finance institutions transferred over 500 million to the USA the night before it went bankrupt in the US ?

Over at United they are paying massive interest rates to Finance houses in the US. This has been happening at Anfield too, they had a perfectly good new Stadium proposal shot down by the American owners , in favour of a new Stadium design by their American Architects, Costing Liverpool a lot of money , with never ever a chance of it being built. Oh yeah ! remember DeLorean ?

[Slim]

I couldnt give a flying shit what happens to the bin dippers...........although Id prefer Golums Everton to go into Administration first.

Its all about Man city.fuck the rest.

So do you think there could be a firesale at the dippers Carl?.

Apart from Torres and maybe Gerard......I wouldnt buy anyone else mate.

Glen Johnson, Pepe Reina, Daniel Agger, Emiliano Insua?

All improvements on what we have.

[john@staustell]

I couldnt give a flying shit what happens to the bin dippers...........although Id prefer Golums Everton to go into Administration first.

Its all about Man city.fuck the rest.

So do you think there could be a firesale at the dippers Carl?.

Apart from Torres and maybe Gerard......I wouldnt buy anyone else mate.

Glen Johnson, Pepe Reina, Daniel Agger, Emiliano Insua?

All improvements on what we have.

Funny I was just browsing the 'doomed sites' earlier for a laugh (Dippers and Arse) and the former were saying how Insua wasn't good enough for the Premier. Not sure they think much of Johnson as a defender either. Reina is good but we have two good keepers.

[Slim]

I couldnt give a flying shit what happens to the bin dippers...........although Id prefer Golums Everton to go into Administration first.

Its all about Man city.fuck the rest.

So do you think there could be a firesale at the dippers Carl?.

Apart from Torres and maybe Gerard......I wouldnt buy anyone else mate.

Glen Johnson, Pepe Reina, Daniel Agger, Emiliano Insua?

All improvements on what we have.

Funny I was just browsing the 'doomed sites' earlier for a laugh (Dippers and Arse) and the former were saying how Insua wasn't good enough for the Premier. Not sure they think much of Johnson as a defender either. Reina is good but we have two good keepers.

Think about who we have in those positions and tell me they aren't upgrades.

I thought Reina was pap when he first arrived but I would say he is probably the best keeper in the league at the moment.

[dazby]

yeah, my opinion of Reina has done a 180 as well. Top top keeper who kept them in the hunt this season.

[john@staustell]

Funny I was just browsing the 'doomed sites' earlier for a laugh (Dippers and Arse) and the former were saying how Insua wasn't good enough for the Premier. Not sure they think much of Johnson as a defender either. Reina is good but we have two good keepers.

Think about who we have in those positions and tell me they aren't upgrades.

I thought Reina was pap when he first arrived but I would say he is probably the best keeper in the league at the moment.

You're right in that they may be slight upgrades, but still not of the required standard methinks (Reyna excepted)! Unless we want to stay fighting for 4th and not the title, which is the now much-stated intention.

[craigmcfc]

I couldnt give a flying shit what happens to the bin dippers...........although Id prefer Golums Everton to go into Administration first.

Its all about Man city.fuck the rest.

So do you think there could be a firesale at the dippers Carl?.

Apart from Torres and maybe Gerard......I wouldnt buy anyone else mate.

Glen Johnson, Pepe Reina, Daniel Agger, Emiliano Insua?

All improvements on what we have.

Not too sure about Insua myself, but the other 3 would be excellent additions to our squad and a solid improvement on what we already have. Given is a top quality keeper but there's no doubt that Reina is the leading light in the Premier League in that position

[grim up north]

is it better to have a future than a history lol

what will the dippers be saying about history now

[Dubciteh]

Happy as a pig in shite.

I've listened to how shit we are and how fantastic liverpool are for fucking years and I will watch their demise with a big grin.

I also think we'll win the league before they do - anyone wanna bet with me? I'm pretty sure there was 2 last time, although they hid and didn't reveal themselves....

absabloodylutly, couldnt happen to a nicer bunch! here's to the end.....

[gaudy]

is it better to have a future than a history lol

what will the dippers be saying about history now

Ha ha,absolutely love that.quality.
Thats my quote for the whole week now!

[DoomMerchant]

DM were you around in the 60, 70 and 80's when IBM used to charge over the top prices for components on their computers ?
'Washers' costing tens of pounds rather than pennies ? It still get's done in this era, remember recently when one of the major finance institutions transferred over 500 million to the USA the night before it went bankrupt in the US ?

Over at U***d they are paying massive interest rates to Finance houses in the US. This has been happening at Anfield too, they had a perfectly good new Stadium proposal shot down by the American owners , in favour of a new Stadium design by their American Architects, Costing Liverpool a lot of money , with never ever a chance of it being built. Oh yeah ! remember DeLorean ?

So yr suggesting business people engage in business relationships which benefit themselves and others? I can't believe this is true. Are you sure?

I don't think the list of "unimaginably poor business decisions" is unique to American business.

Cheers

[CITYSTEVEDON]

if they do go into admin, then i hope they get 20 Pt's deduction and i hope they will have to sell some of there stars to help pay off debts, and have a transfer ban for buying any1 for 2 years

[CITYSTEVEDON]

and did i say HAPPY DAYS FOR THE BIN DIPPERS

[Chinners]

THERE IS NO WAY A CLUB LIKE lIVERPOOL WILL BE ALLOWED TO GO INTO ADMINISTRATION ... TOTAL NON STARTER

FECKING caps lock!

[Dubciteh]

So do you think there could be a firesale at the dippers Carl?.

Glen Johnson, Pepe Reina, Daniel Agger, Emiliano Insua?

All improvements on what we have.[/quote]

Funny I was just browsing the 'doomed sites' earlier for a laugh (Dippers and Arse) and the former were saying how Insua wasn't good enough for the Premier. Not sure they think much of Johnson as a defender either. Reina is good but we have two good keepers.[/quote]

Think about who we have in those positions and tell me they aren't upgrades.

I thought Reina was pap when he first arrived but I would say he is probably the best keeper in the league at the moment.[/quote]

Wow how did i miss this, all points are valid id even through maschareno, benayoun and kuyt into the mix but insua??deary deary me the worse "defender" at a top club in a long time, traore is better than him hes useless. Great for fantasy football points as cheap and plays but hes the weakest of wink links in there defence!

[Slim]

Wow how did i miss this, all points are valid id even through maschareno, benayoun and kuyt into the mix but insua??deary deary me the worse "defender" at a top club in a long time, traore is better than him hes useless. Great for fantasy football points as cheap and plays but hes the weakest of wink links in there defence!

Deary deary me, learn to quote FFS.

I think we have some contenders for worst defender of the season and he is 20 years old and has taken time to settle, but I expect big improvement from him in the next couple of years and he is already a better attacking fullback than anything we have seen at City since...well since SWP was playing wingback.

[Dubciteh]

Wow how did i miss this, all points are valid id even through maschareno, benayoun and kuyt into the mix but insua??deary deary me the worse "defender" at a top club in a long time, traore is better than him hes useless. Great for fantasy football points as cheap and plays but hes the weakest of wink links in there defence!

Deary deary me, learn to quote FFS.

I think we have some contenders for worst defender of the season and he is 20 years old and has taken time to settle, but I expect big improvement from him in the next couple of years and he is already a better attacking fullback than anything we have seen at City since...well since SWP was playing wingback.

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I know i know!

hed be better left wing than left back, he gets skinned so easy, maybe he will improve but id rather bridge and garrido anyday and athst saying something!