Double training sessions rant - your views

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

Tbf I don't think they did complain very much at all. Tevez made the mistake of being honest in an interview by saying he didn't know why we did double training sessions but he also said he's happy to do whatever the manager wants & Bellamy uderstandably questioned why they'd changed a routine that had been specifically worked out to protect his dodgy knee.

Now there's a new season starting & I think you could already see the benefits of the double sessions in the way City changed formations v Portland.

Last season however, the players looked physically goosed & mentally tired by the end of the season & would probably have been better off without it at that stage .

I have to disagree with that. From what I gathered from Doug's reports, second part of the infamous double sessions were efectively just about tactics. Basically walking around and doing movement as a team in slow motion. That does not efect one way or another the fitness of the players and therefore had no impact on how we did in the end of the season (when players admittedly DID look knackered).

Personally I believe that you will reap the benefits from hard preseason training from march onwards the following season.

[Ted Hughes]

Tbf I don't think they did complain very much at all. Tevez made the mistake of being honest in an interview by saying he didn't know why we did double training sessions but he also said he's happy to do whatever the manager wants & Bellamy uderstandably questioned why they'd changed a routine that had been specifically worked out to protect his dodgy knee.

Now there's a new season starting & I think you could already see the benefits of the double sessions in the way City changed formations v Portland.

Last season however, the players looked physically goosed & mentally tired by the end of the season & would probably have been better off without it at that stage .

I have to disagree with that. From what I gathered from Doug's reports, second part of the infamous double sessions were efectively just about tactics. Basically walking around and doing movement as a team in slow motion. That does not efect one way or another the fitness of the players and therefore had no impact on how we did in the end of the season (when players admittedly DID look knackered).

Personally I believe that you will reap the benefits from hard preseason training from march onwards the following season.

I agree but during a season I think you can overdo it & although we tightened up a little bit, we still went missing for key goals & we lost all our spontaneiity in attack. You can only push it so far, not just physically but mentally & halfway through the season is an awkward time to start with a lot of alien stuff.

It may be that this season was considered more important though & the work started then. Now is the best time for all that bollocks though & we looked a lot more like our old selves going forward v Portland imo but with the bonus of AJ. I really like the look of those systems & if the new players get up to speed via the double sessions then we could be in for some great football.

[BobKowalski]

I may have been a bit flip with the 'tactical stuff making their heads hurt' as Ted has a point that mental as well as physical tiredness does come into play and the sudden change in gears in the way we played obviously had an impact. Hopefully with half a season of actual games and a solid pre season under their belts we should start the season with everyone fully aware of what they have to do when on the pitch and reap the rewards accordingly (touch wood).

[Dameerto]

It takes around three weeks for work done now to filter through in the form of improved performance, so I imagine the idea is to do all the heavy work now and reap the benefits in time for the season starting (they will be coming off the back of a month or two of little activity as well, so they're bound to find it hard going for a while yet).

[Rag_hater]

I think double training sessions are OK but if its something our lads arn't used to I don't see anything wrong with them having questions about it or opinions that may not think it is needed.
Also I don't understand when people say that nowadays players are pampered pima donnas and wimps when in actuall fact they are probably twice as fit as the hardmen of yestayear.
I have heard stories of players having a few pints and fags at half time.I'm sure that does't happen now.

[Original Dub]

I think double training sessions are OK but if its something our lads arn't used to I don't see anything wrong with them having questions about it or opinions that may not think it is needed.
Also I don't understand when people say that nowadays players are pampered pima donnas and wimps when in actuall fact they are probably twice as fit as the hardmen of yestayear.
I have heard stories of players having a few pints and fags at half time.I'm sure that does't happen now.

John O' Shea might disagree with you. well, maybe not on the pints.

[Beefymcfc]

I have heard stories of players having a few pints and fags at half time.I'm sure that does't happen now.

Soft twats, what's wrong with a bottle of Newc'ie Brown and a B&H at the side of the pitch for during the game? These guys have never lived!

[Sister of fu]

There has been a massive change is the way modern footballers train. Its all sports science nowadays with every player tested on how far they run, how may passes they make and so on. Gone are the days of the lazy arse player as every single one of them will be monitored in training and when they play. No where to hide.

I have no problem what so ever with double training as I imagine it will be a variety of running, corsabilty-sp work, gym work, game play, shape cool down sessions and so on. Long gone are the days of players running up and down sand dunes and large hills. It will be tough for the lads but that’s what pre-season is all about, hard work. I'm sure come May if we have a pot in the cupboard we will think all the hard work in the summer was well worth it.

[Ted Hughes]

I think double training sessions are OK but if its something our lads arn't used to I don't see anything wrong with them having questions about it or opinions that may not think it is needed.
Also I don't understand when people say that nowadays players are pampered pima donnas and wimps when in actuall fact they are probably twice as fit as the hardmen of yestayear.
I have heard stories of players having a few pints and fags at half time.I'm sure that does't happen now.

Because they're highly trained, fit, prima donnas & wimps.