Boyata - the new Richard Dunne?

[Manx Blue]

He did well for a kid v the scum but he shouldn't have been playing, his mistakes probably cost us & he shouldn't be playing now & his mistakes are costing us each game (he also fucked up v WBA in the league cup & should have cost us the Chelsea game with 2 pens).

He's a great prospect but him & Bob are fucking our season up at the moment.

So....is it Boyata, or Lescott, or Ade, or Barry, or SWP, or the absence of Tevez, or Yaya who are fucking up our season. The way I see it, there are plenty of people who are on the end of the pointed finger?

[Blue Noodle]

Richard Dunne has been playing first team football for 15 seasons, and has consistently been clanger prone in each of thoose seasons.
Boyata is 19 and has had a handful of first team appearances in just under a year. He's made two bad decisions and they cost him dear.
Good/better decision making comes with experience. Dedryck has feck all experience, DunneyMonster has a carrer full.
So no, He's not the new Dunne. Lay off the lad ffs.

[KinkyKinkladze]

19 or not, Boyata isn't good enough. We've seen it in every game he's played for us. Top flight quality aye, but not challengers quality. One day he'll be a hero at Bolton or Sunderland.

[BobKowalski]

19 or not, Boyata isn't good enough. We've seen it in every game he's played for us. Top flight quality aye, but not challengers quality. One day he'll be a hero at Bolton or Sunderland.

I made the point in discussing Gareth Bale that there was no way on God's green earth that City fans would show patience and wait for 3 years for a Gareth Bale to come good let alone start 24 PL games without once being on the winning side.

And lo it came to pass.

[Blue Noodle]

19 or not, Boyata isn't good enough. We've seen it in every game he's played for us. Top flight quality aye, but not challengers quality. One day he'll be a hero at Bolton or Sunderland.

You're right, He's not good enough to be in the first team of a tittle contender. Thats because he's 19! How many centre halves do you know that were world class and the finished article before they were 21? Off hand I could think of maybe half a dozen in my life time, and thats being optomistic.
Put it this way, If the match tonight was a derby, crunch prem game or a cup final, do you think Boyata would play ahead of Kompany or Toure?

[StrikeAnywhere]

Every time ive watched Boyata I haven't thought much of him. I've put it down to his age and inexperience for now but come on the constant fuck ups have killed us in the last 2 games he has played.

Our defence is like a fucking sieve at the moment, god I'm finding it hard to stomach. Settle on a back four Mancini u scarfed prick

[HeyMark]

19 or not, Boyata isn't good enough. We've seen it in every game he's played for us. Top flight quality aye, but not challengers quality. One day he'll be a hero at Bolton or Sunderland.

I made the point in discussing Gareth Bale that there was no way on God's green earth that City fans would show patience and wait for 3 years for a Gareth Bale to come good let alone start 24 PL games without once being on the winning side.

And lo it came to pass.

Great point Bob

[edgeley blue]

Another thread being started targeting the wrong player, similar to the Ade one. This is fuckin stupid, How old are you? How long have you been watching City for? Boyata was picked by the manager because the manager thinks he can do a job, it was bloody unlucky that it was his header that hit their player and rebounded in the net. It may be 5 years before the lad comes of age, football at the top level terms and you wanna slag him off now. I am not saying he will be the greatest centre half of all time but PLEASE give the lad a chance FFS

[shawzy]

Every time ive watched Boyata I haven't thought much of him. I've put it down to his age and inexperience for now but come on the constant fuck ups have killed us in the last 2 games he has played.

Our defence is like a fucking sieve at the moment, god I'm finding it hard to stomach. Settle on a back four Mancini u scarfed prick

Pretty much sums it up for me.

[KinkyKinkladze]

Thing with genuine potential talent is that it's always evident, you just need to find a way of nurturing it. With Bale, you could always see it a mile off, it was just a matter of repositioning him and let him use his attacking talents.

Quite happy to be proved wrong and all, but I just don't see anything special about Dedryck. Nothing like we saw in Micah. Micah gets his fair share of shit from the fans, but without doubt the world class potential is there for all to see, and this year he's showing more on his promise. But that's the difference for me, when Bale and Micah first hit the scene, you could sit there and confidently say "that boy will one day be colossal". I have never felt that way about Boyata, I just don't see it.

[The Original Special One]

but without doubt the world class potential is there for all to see, and this year he's showing more on his promise. .

It is?
Thats the problem with our young players.
They get hyped up to a ridiculous extent by people who wanted to be able to say "from the minute I saw him playing in the reserves I knew he was going to be World class"
(and thats the reason England will never win another World Cup; (unless its played in England and you get a Russian to play at being 'referee's assistant)

[KinkyKinkladze]

Alright then, he isn't, I'm only saying what I'm seeing. Micah is far better this year than in seasons past. That's my view is all.

[Douglas Higginbottom]

Boyata is a good prospect .Nothing more just yet and Mancini says that himself. He says he is very young and will make mistakes and the lad is proving him right. He had a poor game tonight and sadly for him that goal he gave away was schoolboy stuff.

I just don't think he should have been in the firing line tonight.

[BobKowalski]

Thing with genuine potential talent is that it's always evident, you just need to find a way of nurturing it. With Bale, you could always see it a mile off, it was just a matter of repositioning him and let him use his attacking talents.

Quite happy to be proved wrong and all, but I just don't see anything special about Dedryck. Nothing like we saw in Micah. Micah gets his fair share of shit from the fans, but without doubt the world class potential is there for all to see, and this year he's showing more on his promise. But that's the difference for me, when Bale and Micah first hit the scene, you could sit there and confidently say "that boy will one day be colossal". I have never felt that way about Boyata, I just don't see it.

Well there was you and er probably Gareth Bale's mum. Bale was lined up for a loan move with a view to make it permanent to I think Notts Forest just over a year ago. It fell through and the rest was history. And if the move had gone through no one would have batted an eyelid.

All we are doing here is kicking lumps out of Boyata because he got sent off and then bolloxed up a header that cost us the point which is fair enough. It just when we start claiming he will never be any good and he has always been shite for us etc etc that pisses me off. Up to the Arsenal game he had done quite well for us but now its all 20/20 hindsight and everyone's a bleeding expert.

[KinkyKinkladze]

I'm not saying he's shite at all, I am saying I don't think he'll be as good as we'll need him to be in the future.

Good luck to the lad and I'll always support him, but I just don't think he'll cut it at the highest level.

[BobKowalski]

I'm not saying he's shite at all, I am saying I don't think he'll be as good as we'll need him to be in the future.

Good luck to the lad and I'll always support him, but I just don't think he'll cut it at the highest level.

Ok

I'll shut up now :)

[CityGer]

I'm all for the lad being given a chance, the Cheslsa game this season and some performaces at the end of last shows that he's worth investing some time in. What I'm struggling with is Bobby's insistance that he plays at Centre Half, he was superb against Cheslsea at RB, by far his best performance for us, so play him there and let him build himself up. He is costing us games playing through the middle and Bobby needs to see that.

[Kiss_The_Goat]

I've no confidence in this lad at all! Still fuming about the loss tonight so won't put anything else other than GUTTED!

Don't be a tit mate. You'll regret this thread when you calm down. The lad is a classy player, is 19 and with the right development has the potential to be a really top class centre half. That 2nd goal was sheer fluke, not what he needed the game after a red card, but it'll make him stronger in the long run and you cant blame him for that?

[CityGer]

I've no confidence in this lad at all! Still fuming about the loss tonight so won't put anything else other than GUTTED!

Don't be a tit mate. You'll regret this thread when you calm down. The lad is a classy player, is 19 and with the right development has the potential to be a really top class centre half. That 2nd goal was sheer fluke, not what he needed the game after a red card, but it'll make him stronger in the long run and you cant blame him for that?

I agree with most of that but there was more to the second goal than you're suggesting. Very poor header.

[Ted Hughes]

Thing with genuine potential talent is that it's always evident, you just need to find a way of nurturing it. With Bale, you could always see it a mile off, it was just a matter of repositioning him and let him use his attacking talents.

Quite happy to be proved wrong and all, but I just don't see anything special about Dedryck. Nothing like we saw in Micah. Micah gets his fair share of shit from the fans, but without doubt the world class potential is there for all to see, and this year he's showing more on his promise. But that's the difference for me, when Bale and Micah first hit the scene, you could sit there and confidently say "that boy will one day be colossal". I have never felt that way about Boyata, I just don't see it.

Well there was you and er probably Gareth Bale's mum. Bale was lined up for a loan move with a view to make it permanent to I think Notts Forest just over a year ago. It fell through and the rest was history. And if the move had gone through no one would have batted an eyelid.

All we are doing here is kicking lumps out of Boyata because he got sent off and then bolloxed up a header that cost us the point which is fair enough. It just when we start claiming he will never be any good and he has always been shite for us etc etc that pisses me off. Up to the Arsenal game he had done quite well for us but now its all 20/20 hindsight and everyone's a bleeding expert.

He did very well v Chelsea, apart from the fact that he gave away two blatant fouls wich should have been pens & was absolutely fucking hopeless v WBA but tbf he was playing next to Ben Mee. Then we have very average performance, then suddenly, from nowhere, for no reason; the Arsenal game. Who in his right mind would pick him for an away game in Poznan AFTER that & give him the protection of an untried midfield 3 in front? Surely Satzburg at home would be his next game rather than sending him there? Are we actually trying to win any of these fucking competitions or are we just giving players, young & old, a run out?