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Re: Someone's got to say it eventually

Postby Beeks » Sat Nov 13, 2010 5:21 pm

Most boring football I've watchd for sometime but regardless of our opinion..he won't be sacked until the summer unless we are plunged into mid table so no point debating it
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Re: Someone's got to say it eventually

Postby Florida Blue » Sat Nov 13, 2010 5:23 pm

Good Times wrote:And the alternative is what? A new face behind the managers desk, upheaval, new players in, more instability,

Mancini out?

Not unless there's a better option.



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Re: Someone's got to say it eventually

Postby edge275 » Sat Nov 13, 2010 5:23 pm

svengali wrote:What about Hiddink edge?

Maybe even O'Neill in a caretaker type role.

This has to end now. We are not getting better. We are treading water and he has taken the squad backwards and team spirit and passion is on it's arse.


If Mancini went, Hiddink is a good shout. Van Gaal as well.
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Re: Someone's got to say it eventually

Postby Original Dub » Sat Nov 13, 2010 5:24 pm

IanBishopsHaircut wrote:Most boring football I've watchd for sometime but regardless of our opinion..he won't be sacked until the summer unless we are plunged into mid table so no point debating it


there's always a point in debating it mate.

We are the supporters of this football club and supporters always get heard. Eventually.
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Re: Someone's got to say it eventually

Postby bluej » Sat Nov 13, 2010 5:25 pm

If we think its boring now, if we brought O'Neill in I would cry. Imagine Tevez running onto Heskey's flick ons. Shudder.
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Re: Someone's got to say it eventually

Postby svengali » Sat Nov 13, 2010 5:32 pm

bluej wrote:If we think its boring now, if we brought O'Neill in I would cry. Imagine Tevez running onto Heskey's flick ons. Shudder.


You mean we would play with a second striker?????

Fuck no, I dont want us to do that then.
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Re: Someone's got to say it eventually

Postby Douglas Higginbottom » Sat Nov 13, 2010 5:32 pm

bluej wrote:If we think its boring now, if we brought O'Neill in I would cry. Imagine Tevez running onto Heskey's flick ons. Shudder.


Doesn't sound good does it but at least it's a plan. What is the plan we have at the moment?
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Re: Someone's got to say it eventually

Postby bluej » Sat Nov 13, 2010 5:36 pm

Douglas Higginbottom wrote:
bluej wrote:If we think its boring now, if we brought O'Neill in I would cry. Imagine Tevez running onto Heskey's flick ons. Shudder.


Doesn't sound good does it but at least it's a plan. What is the plan we have at the moment?


True, but if that would be a 'plan' then are long balls coming from centre backs really anymore entertaining than our pedestrian play?
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Re: Someone's got to say it eventually

Postby Wonderwall » Sat Nov 13, 2010 5:40 pm

it wasnt pretty and attacking wise we were not effective, however, we have to give Mancini more time. Sacking him now will be as ridiculous as sacking Hughes was IMO. Since when did we have a divine right to beat everyone, we are very difficult to beat which is a great basis to work from. Mancini clearly thinks Balotelli will have a big say along side Tevez, he has been injured forever and then got his ban, which he is two games into now and will be back soon.

No idea what was up with Ade as he could have been the winner if available today.

Some of the posts are way OTT. Taggart was lucky to scrape a draw, I dont hear the scum calling for his head. Please have a little perspective.
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Re: Someone's got to say it eventually

Postby DoomMerchant » Sat Nov 13, 2010 5:40 pm

xavi6 wrote:
edge275 wrote:
xavi6 wrote:I'd fuck him off while we're still in fourth. The way things are going we'll be out of the top six by Christmas and the slide is on.

We can still salvage it now.


Who would you go for?


Well we're in the happy position where compensation wouldn't be an issue so wave a few quid under the nose of a few big names.

Someone like a Louis Van Gaal


ironically, i think i was vocal in hoping he'd replace Pearce when Frank first came in. Rijkaard is free...laff. why the fucl not.

look, i know it's in theory a lot of upheaval, but realistically i don't think Mancini can play any other way than he is currently playing. I see a lot of flaws in him that i don't think, per Pantsby's suggestion, are "adaptable."

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Re: Someone's got to say it eventually

Postby Beeks » Sat Nov 13, 2010 5:41 pm

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Re: Someone's got to say it eventually

Postby Dubaimancityfan » Sat Nov 13, 2010 5:41 pm

bluej wrote:If we think its boring now, if we brought O'Neill in I would cry. Imagine Tevez running onto Heskey's flick ons. Shudder.


Did you see how Villa played against the Scum today. That's O'Neill's team. I wish we had played half as well against them last week. Villa were very unlucky with the draw. Twice hit the goal frame.
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Re: Someone's got to say it eventually

Postby Kladze » Sat Nov 13, 2010 5:44 pm

Let's get one thing straight. I actually like Mancini - as a man. And I may be yet proved wrong as he goes on to build a successful team - but I seriously doubt it.

At the moment we are being asked to buy into a mentality; a style; a philosophy of football which I can no longer bear. And there's no need for it because with the class of players we actually already have we should, and could, be playing expansive, attacking football. Football the likes of which we all dreamed we'd see when the Sheik's fortune turned up on our disbelieving doorstep.

As it stands we have developed a sometimes watertight defence - not always mind you.

But with that we have a team who don't move the ball quickly enough, movement off the ball doesn't create triangles or any other system to give the man on the ball multiple options. Our midfield seems always to be a totally separate entity, disjointed from the forwards. We have little width, then when we do have width we have no target.

I could go on and on but the flaws, in an attacking sense, are clear to see.

It seems to me that many of you opposed to firing Mancini base your opposition in the fear that it would be a retrograde step because there's nobody else available or we might get somebody who would rip up what we already have.

Well let me tell you, I'd prefer to see Sam fucking Allardyce in charge right at this moment - that's how bad it's getting and you all need to wake up to it.

Oh, and one more thing ...... this thread isn't a reaction purely from today's shambolic nonsense. I've been thinking about it for weeks now - today just confirmed in my mind that enough is enough. I want to see an English Barcelona not a step back to Inter Milan of the 70s and 80s.

Hey! I'd even have Hughes back - how's that for desperate?
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Re: Someone's got to say it eventually

Postby dazby » Sat Nov 13, 2010 5:47 pm

Kladze wrote:Let's get one thing straight. I actually like Mancini - as a man. And I may be yet proved wrong as he goes on to build a successful team - but I seriously doubt it.

At the moment we are being asked to buy into a mentality; a style; a philosophy of football which I can no longer bear. And there's no need for it because with the class of players we actually already have we should, and could, be playing expansive, attacking football. Football the likes of which we all dreamed we'd see when the Sheik's fortune turned up on our disbelieving doorstep.

As it stands we have developed a sometimes watertight defence - not always mind you.

But with that we have a team who don't move the ball quickly enough, movement off the ball doesn't create triangles or any other system to give the man on the ball multiple options. Our midfield seems always to be a totally separate entity, disjointed from the forwards. We have little width, then when we do have width we have no target.

I could go on and on but the flaws, in an attacking sense, are clear to see.

It seems to me that many of you opposed to firing Mancini base your opposition in the fear that it would be a retrograde step because there's nobody else available or we might get somebody who would rip up what we already have.

Well let me tell you, I'd prefer to see Sam fucking Allardyce in charge right at this moment - that's how bad it's getting and you all need to wake up to it.

Oh, and one more thing ...... this thread isn't a reaction purely from today's shambolic nonsense. I've been thinking about it for weeks now - today just confirmed in my mind that enough is enough. I want to see an English Barcelona not a step back to Inter Milan of the 70s and 80s.

Hey! I'd even have Hughes back - how's that for desperate?


Nah Dub, I think Twat was a fair call.
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Re: Someone's got to say it eventually

Postby Kladze » Sat Nov 13, 2010 5:49 pm

dazby wrote:
Kladze wrote:Let's get one thing straight. I actually like Mancini - as a man. And I may be yet proved wrong as he goes on to build a successful team - but I seriously doubt it.

At the moment we are being asked to buy into a mentality; a style; a philosophy of football which I can no longer bear. And there's no need for it because with the class of players we actually already have we should, and could, be playing expansive, attacking football. Football the likes of which we all dreamed we'd see when the Sheik's fortune turned up on our disbelieving doorstep.

As it stands we have developed a sometimes watertight defence - not always mind you.

But with that we have a team who don't move the ball quickly enough, movement off the ball doesn't create triangles or any other system to give the man on the ball multiple options. Our midfield seems always to be a totally separate entity, disjointed from the forwards. We have little width, then when we do have width we have no target.

I could go on and on but the flaws, in an attacking sense, are clear to see.

It seems to me that many of you opposed to firing Mancini base your opposition in the fear that it would be a retrograde step because there's nobody else available or we might get somebody who would rip up what we already have.

Well let me tell you, I'd prefer to see Sam fucking Allardyce in charge right at this moment - that's how bad it's getting and you all need to wake up to it.

Oh, and one more thing ...... this thread isn't a reaction purely from today's shambolic nonsense. I've been thinking about it for weeks now - today just confirmed in my mind that enough is enough. I want to see an English Barcelona not a step back to Inter Milan of the 70s and 80s.

Hey! I'd even have Hughes back - how's that for desperate?


Nah Dub, I think Twat was a fair call.


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Re: Someone's got to say it eventually

Postby Chinners » Sat Nov 13, 2010 5:51 pm

Getting rid of another manager ain't going to help however shit the football is, always make me laugh people calling for his head after each 'performance', to be expected I suppose, pub time me thinks.
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Re: Someone's got to say it eventually

Postby dazby » Sat Nov 13, 2010 5:53 pm

I appreciated it Kladze, and in the past I have agreed with you on other issues. But sacking the manager after two 0-0 draws is twattish. Two 3-0 defeats and you may be onto something. But not this.

It's almost 4am here and I'm online to vent about the game because I'm frustrated. But sacking the manager is not the solution.

As I posted earlier on this thread, Mancini adapt, not out.
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Re: Someone's got to say it eventually

Postby Original Dub » Sat Nov 13, 2010 5:54 pm

Wonderwall wrote:it wasnt pretty and attacking wise we were not effective, however, we have to give Mancini more time. Sacking him now will be as ridiculous as sacking Hughes was IMO. Since when did we have a divine right to beat everyone, we are very difficult to beat which is a great basis to work from. Mancini clearly thinks Balotelli will have a big say along side Tevez, he has been injured forever and then got his ban, which he is two games into now and will be back soon.

No idea what was up with Ade as he could have been the winner if available today.

Some of the posts are way OTT. Taggart was lucky to scrape a draw, I dont hear the scum calling for his head. Please have a little perspective.


Ah mate you're better than that!

United play lovely football for the most part and he has been one of the most successful managers of all time. I don't want him gone just yet because I'm HOPING his style changes starting next week, but something's very wrong and it needs addressing quickly if we want to stay in the top four.

If liverpool win today they're 3 points behind us. And they are supposed to be in crisis, with no money and a pretty average squad.

Also, I see we're not the game of the day on football first. Can't remember when we last were actually.
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Re: Someone's got to say it eventually

Postby Kladze » Sat Nov 13, 2010 5:56 pm

dazby wrote:I appreciated it Kladze, and in the past I have agreed with you on other issues. But sacking the manager after two 0-0 draws is twattish. Two 3-0 defeats and you may be onto something. But not this.

It's almost 4am here and I'm online to vent about the game because I'm frustrated. But sacking the manager is not the solution.

As I posted earlier on this thread, Mancini adapt, not out.


I'm increasingly thinking he can't adapt mate. We should be set up to TRY to steamroller past teams like Birmingham. We were actually set up to squeeze them into a narrow 1-0 defeat.
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Re: Someone's got to say it eventually

Postby dazby » Sat Nov 13, 2010 5:59 pm

Kladze wrote:
dazby wrote:I appreciated it Kladze, and in the past I have agreed with you on other issues. But sacking the manager after two 0-0 draws is twattish. Two 3-0 defeats and you may be onto something. But not this.

It's almost 4am here and I'm online to vent about the game because I'm frustrated. But sacking the manager is not the solution.

As I posted earlier on this thread, Mancini adapt, not out.


I'm increasingly thinking he can't adapt mate. We should be set up to TRY to steamroller past teams like Birmingham. We were actually set up to squeeze them into a narrow 1-0 defeat.


And you want him sacked because of this? Two straight clean sheets? With less than 5 shots on target by the opposition?
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