Time to believe.

[saulman]

I am always optimistic. I used to think Keegan could win us the league. When Sven had us in the top 4 I thought we were in with a shout. When Lesley went on his first spending spree, I thought 'why not'?

I'm well aware that this is a much different and more realistic prospect but I will always have nagging doubts. We could be 20 points clear and I'd still be doubting. I'm not a doom merchant, it's just that City have let me down so many times over the years that I'll struggle to believe until I see it.

[Dameerto]

I'm still standing by my pre-season post saying third was achieveable and anything better would be a bonus.

[john68]

I'm still standing by my pre-season post saying third was achieveable and anything better would be a bonus.

At this moment, we are sat joint top. Why the fuck would you think that the place BELOW was an acheivement?
What about looking at the place above?

[Beeks]

I'm going to start mid April .... if we are 10 points clear

I'm with Chinners

All I'm thinking is 8 points from safety ;-)

[Twobob]

Have we got 40 points yet?

[Dameerto]

I'm still standing by my pre-season post saying third was achieveable and anything better would be a bonus.

At this moment, we are sat joint top. Why the fuck would you think that the place BELOW was an acheivement?
What about looking at the place above?

Because I made the claim in preseason? Also, because of the RAG's games in hand, coupled with a worry that Chelsea's dip in form is just a blip. And because we're City.

[Manx Blue]

Mancini In!

Since the Derby, £200,000 a week YAYA Toure has been a revelation....that's £200,000 a week YAYA Toure

[bluej]

TBF John, you can remember when City could dominate a league, whereas most of us are waiting for an inevitable collapse. I am definitely starting to believe though, and I think after the next couple of weeks things could look even better.

[CitizenYank]

I said at the beginning of the year, go for third, but fourth is the goal. We have gone no lower than fourth for most of the season, now we are second but it only matters at the finish line. I still put the goal at fourth.

[ronk]

We're 2nd, and we went there temporarily because our fixtures are earlier in the weekend. This is a meaningless position, we could drop to 4th entirely out of our hands.

It's great to win and to string together a few good results but a win against the bottom side doesn't have me suddenly convinced that anything magical is happening. We are where we want to be (more or less) but we haven't even reached the halfway point of the season.

Last 5 prem matches is won 3 and drawn 2, all against opposition we should be able to beat handily enough. It's a good record but not the kind of platform that'd have you confident that's we're going to take the league by the scruff of the neck.

[Lev Bronstein]

Of course we can win the ieague, I certainly believe that we're going to be there or thereabouts with a few games to play. No-one is running away with it so we have as good a chance as any of the normal contenders. As long as they keep shooting themselves in the foot and we keep improving, the why the hell not?

[john68]

I can go with some of the reasons for doubt but my biggest frustratoion can be summed up in that last phrase of Dameerto's.
"...AND BECAUSE WE'RE CITY"

I have said it before and I'll say it again...THERE ARE REASONS FOR FAILURE. There were reasons why we haven't won a crock of shite for so many years...Whatever those reasons were, they do not exist now. Those days, those managers, those lack of resources and other shite that permeated our club have gone...hopefully for good. We have no reason to fail.

For those who say we haven't won for 30 odd years, why do use that as a cut off point? Is it because it its useful to confirm negativity. Why don't you use a cut off point 15years or so earlier. That would prove this City shite is nonsense. Our club is no different from any other. Given the right circumstances, we can and will succeed. What the fuck are city fans so frightened of?

You have been invited to the biggest party in our club's history, yet so many of you are happy to stand at the door dicussing how you MAY not enjoy the event.

DUMP THE BAGS.

[Ted Hughes]

I can go with some of the reasons for doubt but my biggest frustratoion can be summed up in that last phrase of Dameerto's.
"...AND BECAUSE WE'RE CITY"

I have said it before and I'll say it again...THERE ARE REASONS FOR FAILURE. There were reasons why we haven't won a crock of shite for so many years...Whatever those reasons were, they do not exist now. Those days, those managers, those lack of resources and other shite that permeated our club have gone...hopefully for good. We have no reason to fail.

For those who say we haven't won for 30 odd years, why do use that as a cut off point? Is it because it its useful to confirm negativity. Why don't you use a cut off point 15years or so earlier. That would prove this City shite is nonsense. Our club is no different from any other. Given the right circumstances, we can and will succeed. What the fuck are city fans so frightened of?

You have been invited to the biggest party in our club's history, yet so many of you are happy to stand at the door dicussing how you MAY not enjoy the event.

DUMP THE BAGS.

Spot on.

[Lev Bronstein]

I think that along with nearly all football followers we've been brainwashed into believing that the Sky Four dominating is the natural order of things, and when things look different everyone thinks that it's just a passing fancy.

Should we win the league then perhaps we can shatter the myths and free the football public from the shackles of the media propaganda.

Tiocfaidh ur lar

[Manx Blue]

We're 2nd, and we went there temporarily because our fixtures are earlier in the weekend. This is a meaningless position, we could drop to 4th entirely out of our hands.

It's great to win and to string together a few good results but a win against the bottom side doesn't have me suddenly convinced that anything magical is happening. We are where we want to be (more or less) but we haven't even reached the halfway point of the season.

Last 5 prem matches is won 3 and drawn 2, all against opposition we should be able to beat handily enough. It's a good record but not the kind of platform that'd have you confident that's we're going to take the league by the scruff of the neck.

I agree and disagree to a point. We can look at it in the manner you have presented, or they way we played the top 4 and Liverpool by the first week of November. They had the points on the board, and now some of them have to play each other, so naturally they will drop a few and we will pull it back

[Feed The Goat]

THIS REALLY PISSES ME OFF LIKE NOTHING ELSE AT CITY....
I really don't know what the fuck you are frightened of.
"Oh...erm...we seem to be....shhhh!.....joint...erm...top of the....erm....league...Sorry but...I....erm...just thought....I'd...erm...mention it."

For fucking years, you lot have had the football world jumping up and down on your emotions at the least excuse. For fucking years, you lot have been ground into the floor by failure and arrogant bastards from the swamp. AT WHAT POINT ARE YOU FUCKING LOT GOING TO FUCKING HAVE A FUCKING GO BACK?
WE ARE SITTING ON TOP OF THE LEAGUE...FUCK THE RAG BASTARDS...FUCK THE REST OF THE WORLD...THEY'RE NOT...WE ARE!!!

yer a bunch of miserable...frightened fuckers.

[center]WE'RE GONNA WIN THE LEAGUE,
WE'RE GONNA WIN THE LEAGUE,
SO NOW YER GONNA BELIEVE US,
SO NOW YER GONNA BELIEVE US,
SO NOW YER GONNA BELIEEEEEEVE UUUUUUS,
WEEEEEE'RE GOOOOOONNA WIIIIIIIN THE LEEEEEEAGUE.[/center]

I am with John

[Manx Blue]

I can go with some of the reasons for doubt but my biggest frustratoion can be summed up in that last phrase of Dameerto's.
"...AND BECAUSE WE'RE CITY"

I have said it before and I'll say it again...THERE ARE REASONS FOR FAILURE. There were reasons why we haven't won a crock of shite for so many years...Whatever those reasons were, they do not exist now. Those days, those managers, those lack of resources and other shite that permeated our club have gone...hopefully for good. We have no reason to fail.

For those who say we haven't won for 30 odd years, why do use that as a cut off point? Is it because it its useful to confirm negativity. Why don't you use a cut off point 15years or so earlier. That would prove this City shite is nonsense. Our club is no different from any other. Given the right circumstances, we can and will succeed. What the fuck are city fans so frightened of?

You have been invited to the biggest party in our club's history, yet so many of you are happy to stand at the door dicussing how you MAY not enjoy the event.

DUMP THE BAGS.

One of the posts of the year IMO

[Feed The Goat]

THIS REALLY PISSES ME OFF LIKE NOTHING ELSE AT CITY....
I really don't know what the fuck you are frightened of.
"Oh...erm...we seem to be....shhhh!.....joint...erm...top of the....erm....league...Sorry but...I....erm...just thought....I'd...erm...mention it."

For fucking years, you lot have had the football world jumping up and down on your emotions at the least excuse. For fucking years, you lot have been ground into the floor by failure and arrogant bastards from the swamp. AT WHAT POINT ARE YOU FUCKING LOT GOING TO FUCKING HAVE A FUCKING GO BACK?
WE ARE SITTING ON TOP OF THE LEAGUE...FUCK THE RAG BASTARDS...FUCK THE REST OF THE WORLD...THEY'RE NOT...WE ARE!!!

yer a bunch of miserable...frightened fuckers.

[center]WE'RE GONNA WIN THE LEAGUE,
WE'RE GONNA WIN THE LEAGUE,
SO NOW YER GONNA BELIEVE US,
SO NOW YER GONNA BELIEVE US,
SO NOW YER GONNA BELIEEEEEEVE UUUUUUS,
WEEEEEE'RE GOOOOOONNA WIIIIIIIN THE LEEEEEEAGUE.[/center]

I am with John

[Chinners]

I can go with some of the reasons for doubt but my biggest frustratoion can be summed up in that last phrase of Dameerto's.
"...AND BECAUSE WE'RE CITY"

I have said it before and I'll say it again...THERE ARE REASONS FOR FAILURE. There were reasons why we haven't won a crock of shite for so many years...Whatever those reasons were, they do not exist now. Those days, those managers, those lack of resources and other shite that permeated our club have gone...hopefully for good. We have no reason to fail.

For those who say we haven't won for 30 odd years, why do use that as a cut off point? Is it because it its useful to confirm negativity. Why don't you use a cut off point 15years or so earlier. That would prove this City shite is nonsense. Our club is no different from any other. Given the right circumstances, we can and will succeed. What the fuck are city fans so frightened of?

You have been invited to the biggest party in our club's history, yet so many of you are happy to stand at the door dicussing how you MAY not enjoy the event.

DUMP THE BAGS.

Quality post John, I like parties actually. At this particular one I'm just a tad nervous that my dancing efforts will show me up ... I may have a little boogie after Christmas, we'll see

[branny]

We are where we deserve to be after 17 games, Joint top with points in the bag, not games in hand. We are in contention. Doing no worse than anybody else and with a huge squad going into the 2nd half of the season. Course I believe.