Is Carlos Worth It?

[marvin]

I don't really like him at all and I think he is greedy, unloyal, back stabbing rag twat BUT he is among maybe five players in the world who are worth the hassle. The stuff he brings to the table on the pitch is so brilliant that we'll just have to swallow rest of the crap that he brings. BUT, i repeat, he is one of only handfull of players with that sort of talent.

Unless you know the nature of Tevez's disagreement with City, it would be fair to restrict comment to his ability as a football player.

He was peerless at SJP and we are in danger of taking this unique player for granted

[Ted Hughes]

I don't really like him at all and I think he is greedy, unloyal, back stabbing rag twat BUT he is among maybe five players in the world who are worth the hassle. The stuff he brings to the table on the pitch is so brilliant that we'll just have to swallow rest of the crap that he brings. BUT, i repeat, he is one of only handfull of players with that sort of talent.

Unless you know the nature of Tevez's disagreement with City, it would be fair to restrict comment to his ability as a football player.

He was peerless at SJP and we are in danger of taking this unique player for granted

It doesn't actually matter what his disagreement with City was; you don't shit on the club, the fans & your team mates by asking for a fucking transfer in the middle of the season, just as we go top of the league. It's the action of a complete selfish twat.

[marvin]

I don't really like him at all and I think he is greedy, unloyal, back stabbing rag twat BUT he is among maybe five players in the world who are worth the hassle. The stuff he brings to the table on the pitch is so brilliant that we'll just have to swallow rest of the crap that he brings. BUT, i repeat, he is one of only handfull of players with that sort of talent.

Unless you know the nature of Tevez's disagreement with City, it would be fair to restrict comment to his ability as a football player.

He was peerless at SJP and we are in danger of taking this unique player for granted

It doesn't actually matter what his disagreement with City was; you don't shit on the club, the fans & your team mates by asking for a fucking transfer in the middle of the season, just as we go top of the league. It's the action of a complete selfish twat.

You assume he was central to the transfer request.

[john@staustell]

I'm still not sure about this 'disagreement'. He cant speak English, can't compose 'statements' in any language and his second statement came very shortly after the club's whilst he was in Tenerife. I'm not sure he even knew what he 'said'!

It's all about City's stopping payments to fund the likes of Leech Kia.




Tevez is well worth the hassle. However I dont subscribe to the Lawrenson view that he is all we have, and we are doomed without him!

[Slim]

Tevez fights for everything he gets, never gives up a lost cause and quite frankly is the one of only three players in our team who can claim the title of 'world class'. Is that run of "every game he scores in we win" still going? If so, that should answer your question.

[Original Dub]

I don't really like him at all and I think he is greedy, unloyal, back stabbing rag twat BUT he is among maybe five players in the world who are worth the hassle. The stuff he brings to the table on the pitch is so brilliant that we'll just have to swallow rest of the crap that he brings. BUT, i repeat, he is one of only handfull of players with that sort of talent.

You just called the Manchester City captain a "rag twat"??????

You should be fucking ashamed of yourself.

That transfer request was all politics. A disagreement that came to a head and has since been sorted.
Its an absolute dream having one of the best strikers/players on the planet play for City every week. I loved watching him play before he joined us because he has absolutely EVERYTHING I want in a footballer.

You're damn right he's worth it.

[The Man In Blue]

You just called the Manchester City captain a "rag twat"??????

You should be fucking ashamed of yourself.

hating the rags seems to be the most important element of being a city supporter for some people.

i think the OP's question was answered pretty well yesterday.

[Ted Hughes]

I don't really like him at all and I think he is greedy, unloyal, back stabbing rag twat BUT he is among maybe five players in the world who are worth the hassle. The stuff he brings to the table on the pitch is so brilliant that we'll just have to swallow rest of the crap that he brings. BUT, i repeat, he is one of only handfull of players with that sort of talent.

Unless you know the nature of Tevez's disagreement with City, it would be fair to restrict comment to his ability as a football player.

He was peerless at SJP and we are in danger of taking this unique player for granted

It doesn't actually matter what his disagreement with City was; you don't shit on the club, the fans & your team mates by asking for a fucking transfer in the middle of the season, just as we go top of the league. It's the action of a complete selfish twat.

You assume he was central to the transfer request.

I'm certain Joorabchian was the driving force behind Tevez' problems but I'm also certain Tevez could have done more to stop it & chose not to. Imo he was well out of order & whilst I respect him as a great footballer & support him as a City player, it will take a hell of a lot for me to ever trust him or truly accept him as one of us. I won't even bat an eyelid if he does it again in June. The only surprise for me will be if he doesn't.

In the meantime I'm glad we have such a player for this season at least.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

I don't really like him at all and I think he is greedy, unloyal, back stabbing rag twat BUT he is among maybe five players in the world who are worth the hassle. The stuff he brings to the table on the pitch is so brilliant that we'll just have to swallow rest of the crap that he brings. BUT, i repeat, he is one of only handfull of players with that sort of talent.

Unless you know the nature of Tevez's disagreement with City, it would be fair to restrict comment to his ability as a football player.

He was peerless at SJP and we are in danger of taking this unique player for granted

It doesn't actually matter what his disagreement with City was; you don't shit on the club, the fans & your team mates by asking for a fucking transfer in the middle of the season, just as we go top of the league. It's the action of a complete selfish twat.

You assume he was central to the transfer request.

oh wait, he wasn't central figure in asking transfer for himself? Who does that work? Perhaps you should restrict your comments simply on his ability as a player.

Tevez took a shit on us and showed his true nature. Complete and utter twat. I'm all for him staying as he is brilliant footballer but he is also someone who tried his best to bring bad publicity to Club and make us a laughing stock. But some people are obviously just interested in the names on the back of the shirt rather than badge in the shirt. Whatever.

[Original Dub]

I don't really like him at all and I think he is greedy, unloyal, back stabbing rag twat BUT he is among maybe five players in the world who are worth the hassle. The stuff he brings to the table on the pitch is so brilliant that we'll just have to swallow rest of the crap that he brings. BUT, i repeat, he is one of only handfull of players with that sort of talent.

Unless you know the nature of Tevez's disagreement with City, it would be fair to restrict comment to his ability as a football player.

He was peerless at SJP and we are in danger of taking this unique player for granted

It doesn't actually matter what his disagreement with City was; you don't shit on the club, the fans & your team mates by asking for a fucking transfer in the middle of the season, just as we go top of the league. It's the action of a complete selfish twat.

You assume he was central to the transfer request.

oh wait, he wasn't central figure in asking transfer for himself? Who does that work? Perhaps you should restrict your comments simply on his ability as a player.

Tevez took a shit on us and showed his true nature. Complete and utter twat. I'm all for him staying as he is brilliant footballer but he is also someone who tried his best to bring bad publicity to Club and make us a laughing stock. But some people are obviously just interested in the names on the back of the shirt rather than badge in the shirt. Whatever.

The name on the back of the shirt rather than the shirt???

Is there yet again a hint of questioning other posters' support for the club because their opinion differs from yours?

We don't know why exactly all that transfer debacle took place, but I can tell you now its fucking HIGHLY unlikely that it was because Tevez was trying his best to bring bad publicity to the club.

Calling the captain of Manchester City a RAG TWAT is a disgrace mate. None of us liked what happened with the fallout but from the definite quotes we got two completely different versions followed by a sorting out of the problem. Shit happens. It happened with Gerrard at Liverpool, Rooney at United, Fabregas at Arsenal and damn close to it happening to Lampard and Terry at Chelsea.

Is it a bit of a strange coincedence that all of these players are the best players at their respective club?

As far as players' loyalty goes (which is almost non existant in the modern game), these guys are seen as the hearbeat of their club.

Tevez is no different. Something happened to cause this and I don't give a shit what it was once it was sorted and my club and my captain are back working together.

[Twobob]

I don't really like him at all and I think he is greedy, unloyal, back stabbing rag twat BUT he is among maybe five players in the world who are worth the hassle. The stuff he brings to the table on the pitch is so brilliant that we'll just have to swallow rest of the crap that he brings. BUT, i repeat, he is one of only handfull of players with that sort of talent.

Unless you know the nature of Tevez's disagreement with City, it would be fair to restrict comment to his ability as a football player.

He was peerless at SJP and we are in danger of taking this unique player for granted

It doesn't actually matter what his disagreement with City was; you don't shit on the club, the fans & your team mates by asking for a fucking transfer in the middle of the season, just as we go top of the league. It's the action of a complete selfish twat.

You assume he was central to the transfer request.

oh wait, he wasn't central figure in asking transfer for himself? Who does that work? Perhaps you should restrict your comments simply on his ability as a player.

Tevez took a shit on us and showed his true nature. Complete and utter twat. I'm all for him staying as he is brilliant footballer but he is also someone who tried his best to bring bad publicity to Club and make us a laughing stock. But some people are obviously just interested in the names on the back of the shirt rather than badge in the shirt. Whatever.

Oh come on pal, how many footballers play for the badge alone these days? Hes here for the rest of the season at least. He is class, he is worth it at the moment and he is a grafter.

We shall see what happens in the closed season, and assess his loyalty then. However for now, his loyalty to money, glory or himself is getting us success so im happy to reap the short term rewards.

But yeah, any one calling our own captain and top scorer a rag twat is out of order in my very humble opinion but i can apreciate the feeling of betrayal that may be behined that.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

I haven't questioned what he brings to the table though have I? I said, I appreciate his footballing skills very much and would prefer him to stay but truth is he is slimy backstabbing rag twat and there's no way around it. The fact that he is probably the best player who has played for us in my lifetime don't change anything. He wants to bring bad things to Club I love and I sure as hell aren't going to lick his nuts for it.

And the fact that he remains the captain is indeed a disgrace and probably the worst thing Mancini has done for us so far.

[Im_Spartacus]

I haven't questioned what he brings to the table though have I? I said, I appreciate his footballing skills very much and would prefer him to stay but truth is he is slimy backstabbing rag twat and there's no way around it. The fact that he is probably the best player who has played for us in my lifetime don't change anything. He wants to bring bad things to Club I love and I sure as hell aren't going to lick his nuts for it.

And the fact that he remains the captain is indeed a disgrace and probably the worst thing Mancini has done for us so far.

Hughes was a rag twat. He earned the title for being a long time, dyed in the wool rag, and latterly became a twat for being incompetent

Tevez never was the heartbeat of United, is considered by United fans to be a traitor and greedy bastard. Funnily enough, he is considered by City fans to potentially also be a traitor and greedy bastard. His (or his agent's) nature were not formed by being at United, they were formed out of pure greed a long long time ago.

Therefore Tevez is not a rag twat - he might be a twat for what he did, but it is not his rag tendencies that brought all this about

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

I haven't questioned what he brings to the table though have I? I said, I appreciate his footballing skills very much and would prefer him to stay but truth is he is slimy backstabbing rag twat and there's no way around it. The fact that he is probably the best player who has played for us in my lifetime don't change anything. He wants to bring bad things to Club I love and I sure as hell aren't going to lick his nuts for it.

And the fact that he remains the captain is indeed a disgrace and probably the worst thing Mancini has done for us so far.

Hughes was a rag twat. He earned the title for being a long time, dyed in the wool rag, and latterly became a twat for being incompetent

Tevez never was the heartbeat of United, is considered by United fans to be a traitor and greedy bastard. Funnily enough, he is considered by City fans to potentially also be a traitor and greedy bastard. His (or his agent's) nature were not formed by being at United, they were formed out of pure greed a long long time ago.

Therefore Tevez is not a rag twat - he might be a twat for what he did, but it is not his rag tendencies that brought all this about

ok, not a rag twat then but twat regardless. We are finally doing things right and pushing for unprecedented (in my lifetime) things. There was absolutely no need for his show and try and create confusion and inbalance in the team. He treated our Club poorly and therefore in my books is twat of highest order.

[Original Dub]

I haven't questioned what he brings to the table though have I? I said, I appreciate his footballing skills very much and would prefer him to stay but truth is he is slimy backstabbing rag twat and there's no way around it. The fact that he is probably the best player who has played for us in my lifetime don't change anything. He wants to bring bad things to Club I love and I sure as hell aren't going to lick his nuts for it.

And the fact that he remains the captain is indeed a disgrace and probably the worst thing Mancini has done for us so far.

Hughes was a rag twat. He earned the title for being a long time, dyed in the wool rag, and latterly became a twat for being incompetent

Tevez never was the heartbeat of United, is considered by United fans to be a traitor and greedy bastard. Funnily enough, he is considered by City fans to potentially also be a traitor and greedy bastard. His (or his agent's) nature were not formed by being at United, they were formed out of pure greed a long long time ago.

Therefore Tevez is not a rag twat - he might be a twat for what he did, but it is not his rag tendencies that brought all this about

ok, not a rag twat then but twat regardless. We are finally doing things right and pushing for unprecedented (in my lifetime) things. There was absolutely no need for his show and try and create confusion and inbalance in the team. He treated our Club poorly and therefore in my books is twat of highest order.

Twat of the highest order.

Just like Gary Neville then.

We were all disgusted with what happened, but it has been withdrawn and whatever problems have been resolved at least for now. Which means we get to hang on to our captain and probably the best striker we have ever had.

I already pointed out to you that Gerrard, Fabregas, Rooney, Terry and Lampard have all pulled similar shit and they are their clubs' most respected/important players.

Loyalty in football is dead, particularly when it comes to negotiation, be that transfer or otherwise.

If you think there are any "true blues" left then you're dillussional.

On that basis, all of our players are twats. Its a crazy outlook.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

I haven't questioned what he brings to the table though have I? I said, I appreciate his footballing skills very much and would prefer him to stay but truth is he is slimy backstabbing rag twat and there's no way around it. The fact that he is probably the best player who has played for us in my lifetime don't change anything. He wants to bring bad things to Club I love and I sure as hell aren't going to lick his nuts for it.

And the fact that he remains the captain is indeed a disgrace and probably the worst thing Mancini has done for us so far.

Hughes was a rag twat. He earned the title for being a long time, dyed in the wool rag, and latterly became a twat for being incompetent

Tevez never was the heartbeat of United, is considered by United fans to be a traitor and greedy bastard. Funnily enough, he is considered by City fans to potentially also be a traitor and greedy bastard. His (or his agent's) nature were not formed by being at United, they were formed out of pure greed a long long time ago.

Therefore Tevez is not a rag twat - he might be a twat for what he did, but it is not his rag tendencies that brought all this about

ok, not a rag twat then but twat regardless. We are finally doing things right and pushing for unprecedented (in my lifetime) things. There was absolutely no need for his show and try and create confusion and inbalance in the team. He treated our Club poorly and therefore in my books is twat of highest order.

Twat of the highest order.

Just like Gary Neville then.

We were all disgusted with what happened, but it has been withdrawn and whatever problems have been resolved at least for now. Which means we get to hang on to our captain and probably the best striker we have ever had.

I already pointed out to you that Gerrard, Fabregas, Rooney, Terry and Lampard have all pulled similar shit and they are their clubs' most respected/important players.

Loyalty in football is dead, particularly when it comes to negotiation, be that transfer or otherwise.

If you think there are any "true blues" left then you're dillussional.

On that basis, all of our players are twats. Its a crazy outlook.

Apart from rooney, who incidentally IS a rag twat (although some people would've welcomed him with open arms while back), all of them talked about transfers during the OFF season. People like Gerrard and Lampard would never try to ruin the season by going through shit like that when their team is second in the table.

[Beefymcfc]

I haven't questioned what he brings to the table though have I? I said, I appreciate his footballing skills very much and would prefer him to stay but truth is he is slimy backstabbing rag twat and there's no way around it. The fact that he is probably the best player who has played for us in my lifetime don't change anything. He wants to bring bad things to Club I love and I sure as hell aren't going to lick his nuts for it.

And the fact that he remains the captain is indeed a disgrace and probably the worst thing Mancini has done for us so far.

Hughes was a rag twat. He earned the title for being a long time, dyed in the wool rag, and latterly became a twat for being incompetent

Tevez never was the heartbeat of United, is considered by United fans to be a traitor and greedy bastard. Funnily enough, he is considered by City fans to potentially also be a traitor and greedy bastard. His (or his agent's) nature were not formed by being at United, they were formed out of pure greed a long long time ago.

Therefore Tevez is not a rag twat - he might be a twat for what he did, but it is not his rag tendencies that brought all this about

ok, not a rag twat then but twat regardless. We are finally doing things right and pushing for unprecedented (in my lifetime) things. There was absolutely no need for his show and try and create confusion and inbalance in the team. He treated our Club poorly and therefore in my books is twat of highest order.

Twat of the highest order.

Just like Gary Neville then.

We were all disgusted with what happened, but it has been withdrawn and whatever problems have been resolved at least for now. Which means we get to hang on to our captain and probably the best striker we have ever had.

I already pointed out to you that Gerrard, Fabregas, Rooney, Terry and Lampard have all pulled similar shit and they are their clubs' most respected/important players.

Loyalty in football is dead, particularly when it comes to negotiation, be that transfer or otherwise.

If you think there are any "true blues" left then you're dillussional.

On that basis, all of our players are twats. Its a crazy outlook.

We did have one, he's now playing for a Rag manager.

[Ted Hughes]

I haven't questioned what he brings to the table though have I? I said, I appreciate his footballing skills very much and would prefer him to stay but truth is he is slimy backstabbing rag twat and there's no way around it. The fact that he is probably the best player who has played for us in my lifetime don't change anything. He wants to bring bad things to Club I love and I sure as hell aren't going to lick his nuts for it.

And the fact that he remains the captain is indeed a disgrace and probably the worst thing Mancini has done for us so far.

Hughes was a rag twat. He earned the title for being a long time, dyed in the wool rag, and latterly became a twat for being incompetent

Tevez never was the heartbeat of United, is considered by United fans to be a traitor and greedy bastard. Funnily enough, he is considered by City fans to potentially also be a traitor and greedy bastard. His (or his agent's) nature were not formed by being at United, they were formed out of pure greed a long long time ago.

Therefore Tevez is not a rag twat - he might be a twat for what he did, but it is not his rag tendencies that brought all this about

ok, not a rag twat then but twat regardless. We are finally doing things right and pushing for unprecedented (in my lifetime) things. There was absolutely no need for his show and try and create confusion and inbalance in the team. He treated our Club poorly and therefore in my books is twat of highest order.

Twat of the highest order.

Just like Gary Neville then.

We were all disgusted with what happened, but it has been withdrawn and whatever problems have been resolved at least for now. Which means we get to hang on to our captain and probably the best striker we have ever had.

I already pointed out to you that Gerrard, Fabregas, Rooney, Terry and Lampard have all pulled similar shit and they are their clubs' most respected/important players.

Loyalty in football is dead, particularly when it comes to negotiation, be that transfer or otherwise.

If you think there are any "true blues" left then you're dillussional.

On that basis, all of our players are twats. Its a crazy outlook.

Apart from rooney, who incidentally IS a rag twat (although some people would've welcomed him with open arms while back), all of them talked about transfers during the OFF season. People like Gerrard and Lampard would never try to ruin the season by going through shit like that when their team is second in the table.

There are very few times when the top player of a top team has asked for a move at such a key time in the season. Rooney did it, then Tevez did it. In both cases, agents were behind it but in both cases the player went along with it & it was disgraceful. Interesting that Bob is now mentioning that Inter are keen on Tevez. Coincidence? I think not.

If he continues to put 100% of his effort into winning us games I'll continue to cheer him on but he's got a hell of a lot of repair work to do & he'd need to still be here doing it this time next year before I'd even think about starting to trust him not to shit on us.

[Original Dub]

I haven't questioned what he brings to the table though have I? I said, I appreciate his footballing skills very much and would prefer him to stay but truth is he is slimy backstabbing rag twat and there's no way around it. The fact that he is probably the best player who has played for us in my lifetime don't change anything. He wants to bring bad things to Club I love and I sure as hell aren't going to lick his nuts for it.

And the fact that he remains the captain is indeed a disgrace and probably the worst thing Mancini has done for us so far.

Hughes was a rag twat. He earned the title for being a long time, dyed in the wool rag, and latterly became a twat for being incompetent

Tevez never was the heartbeat of United, is considered by United fans to be a traitor and greedy bastard. Funnily enough, he is considered by City fans to potentially also be a traitor and greedy bastard. His (or his agent's) nature were not formed by being at United, they were formed out of pure greed a long long time ago.

Therefore Tevez is not a rag twat - he might be a twat for what he did, but it is not his rag tendencies that brought all this about

ok, not a rag twat then but twat regardless. We are finally doing things right and pushing for unprecedented (in my lifetime) things. There was absolutely no need for his show and try and create confusion and inbalance in the team. He treated our Club poorly and therefore in my books is twat of highest order.

Twat of the highest order.

Just like Gary Neville then.

We were all disgusted with what happened, but it has been withdrawn and whatever problems have been resolved at least for now. Which means we get to hang on to our captain and probably the best striker we have ever had.

I already pointed out to you that Gerrard, Fabregas, Rooney, Terry and Lampard have all pulled similar shit and they are their clubs' most respected/important players.

Loyalty in football is dead, particularly when it comes to negotiation, be that transfer or otherwise.

If you think there are any "true blues" left then you're dillussional.

On that basis, all of our players are twats. Its a crazy outlook.

Apart from rooney, who incidentally IS a rag twat (although some people would've welcomed him with open arms while back), all of them talked about transfers during the OFF season. People like Gerrard and Lampard would never try to ruin the season by going through shit like that when their team is second in the table.

The midway through the season thing means little or nothing to me. The press would like to have everyone believe that teams fall apart whenever their star man is in negotiations or rumoured to be having his head turned.

Its absolute horseshit. Players all know how football works and that's why they never comment when one of their own is either trying for a move, payrise or otherwise. It doesn't disrupt them at all. Just like it doesn't "lift" them when they sort out their problems.

Our season didn't take a battering because of all this. United's season has not taken a battering because of Rooney.

All that has happened is that the fans have gotten upset because our star player and captain said he wanted to leave and rightly so. Whether that is December or June, that deeply upset me. Just like it deeply upset Chelsea fans, Arsenal fans, United fans and the dipper fans who burned images of Gerrard outside the ground when he said he was leaving.
Hell, just like Villa fans boo Barry and hate him for leaving.

This is about fans, not what it has done to the "club" or our season and the above examples show the how strong player power has become, particularly when it comes to the star man.

The amount of negative press that cunt Robinho brought while he was at the club was fucking TEN TIMES worse than anything Tevez has done, whilst Tevez' contribution has been infinitely superior to anything Robinho ever did.

Yet Tevez is being made out to be the devil because of a week long dispute and has continued to be our greatest contribution to the cause.

If/when he leaves us it'll be a very sad day indeed.

Thank God that it isn't for the remainder of this season at least.

[M147WN]

Carlos Tevez? Who else plays a similar role in effort, skill and perseverance on a world stage? Messi? Inisesta? just mentioning these names gives us a clue how influential he is!
World class? YES!!