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Re: 0-0 away at Arsenal would be a good result or a disgrace?

Postby Piccsnumberoneblue » Wed Dec 29, 2010 3:29 pm

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Dubciteh wrote:
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john@staustell wrote:Seeing as how our lads were bizarrely (IMHO) slated for stifling Arsenal into a 0-0 draw at Emirates toward the end of last season, do people think that would be a good result next week? Or a disgrace again?

Personally I think we will/should follow our normal tactics of stopping the opposition, whilst we are now better equipped to counter than before and maybe win it. But if it is 0-0, I would regard that as a good result in current circumstances.



I thought it was good result then and I'd take it again. I thought critism was bizarre to say the least as well.


It wasnt bizarre at all.

We needed to win last season as was proven by the results that followed, they were also in the shit at the time and we were playing well.

I still wonder why we played for a draw? Or why anybody wouldn't have been annoyed about it.
That day Spurs had lost at the filth. We were two points behind them and still had them to come at home.
Arse were depleted and we could never have had a better chance.
If we drew we would be below Spurs and would have to beat them.
If we lost we were still below Spurs and would have to beat them.
We got a free bash at winning there. The point we gained was useless.
Had we won, Spurs would have to have opened up the game at Eastlands. It would have been very different if they'd had to beat us.
As we didn't even bother trying to win, Spurs just sat back and swatted our huff and puff attack aside.
It was a major fuck up that said a lot about Mancini. It probably cost us Champions' League.
I'd take a draw there this year but the rewards for winning are high. we will certainly be in with a realistic chance if we can win there, and people will have to take us seriously.
This time round its different, there in the best form theyve been in years, a draw will allow us not lose ground on them so id take a draw right now.


Bollocks.

Draw at Arsenal was good result as long as we squeezed results against Villa and Spurs. We lost to Spurs and that was that. Hanging the outcome of your season on win at Arsenal was ridiculous. Arsenal had six wins and draw before they lost their away derby and to Wigan in bizarre fashion. Unless you mean that losing and drawing with Barcelona was indicator how low they had slumped?

Crying about draw at Arsenal was ridiculous, childish and bizarre.
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Re: 0-0 away at Arsenal would be a good result or a disgrace?

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Wed Dec 29, 2010 3:49 pm

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
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john@staustell wrote:Seeing as how our lads were bizarrely (IMHO) slated for stifling Arsenal into a 0-0 draw at Emirates toward the end of last season, do people think that would be a good result next week? Or a disgrace again?

Personally I think we will/should follow our normal tactics of stopping the opposition, whilst we are now better equipped to counter than before and maybe win it. But if it is 0-0, I would regard that as a good result in current circumstances.



I thought it was good result then and I'd take it again. I thought critism was bizarre to say the least as well.


It wasnt bizarre at all.

We needed to win last season as was proven by the results that followed, they were also in the shit at the time and we were playing well.

This time round its different, there in the best form theyve been in years, a draw will allow us not lose ground on them so id take a draw right now.


Bollocks.

Draw at Arsenal was good result as long as we squeezed results against Villa and Spurs. We lost to Spurs and that was that. Hanging the outcome of your season on win at Arsenal was ridiculous. Arsenal had six wins and draw before they lost their away derby and to Wigan in bizarre fashion. Unless you mean that losing and drawing with Barcelona was indicator how low they had slumped?

Crying about draw at Arsenal was ridiculous, childish and bizarre.


Really?
Spurs had already lost to United, and a win over Arsenal would have taken us above Spurs and given that game a whole different complexity. It was one of the weakest Arsenal sides, no Fabregas, Arshavin etc and they had nothing to play for.

The fact we drew wasn't the problem, the fact we never attempted to win was.
Had we beaten Spurs, that would have been a good point V arsenal, as it happened we didn't, so it wasn't a good point and we bottled it.
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Re: 0-0 away at Arsenal would be a good result or a disgrace?

Postby Crossie » Wed Dec 29, 2010 3:52 pm

If we do get a win there, I'll start getting scared.

I honestly have no confidence in us maintaining our current form, 1 loss in 9, and actually staying in the hunt right up till the end of the season. Its just because we know City, we fuck up all our hard work time and time again.

I wont trust us to win anything until is the last min of the last game and we are ahead by 3 clear goals!
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Re: 0-0 away at Arsenal would be a good result or a disgrace?

Postby Twobob » Wed Dec 29, 2010 5:36 pm

One thing is almost nailed on though, there's about as much chance of a 0-0 there than me getting a start in our first 11!

The way they tore Chelsea a new ass hole I would happily take a point now.

But, on the day you have to attack them - trying to defend against them is a no hoper when they're on top note.

I'll be fookin bouncing if we did win though :-)
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Re: 0-0 away at Arsenal would be a good result or a disgrace?

Postby Beefymcfc » Wed Dec 29, 2010 6:09 pm

3 points would be fantastic, almost fantastical, but a point would be a point gained for us and 2 dropped for them. Saying that, It's over 90 minutes away yet and I'll be looking at the Blackpool game to see if we have enough resillience in our squad to cover 4 games in 11 days.
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Re: 0-0 away at Arsenal would be a good result or a disgrace?

Postby The Man In Blue » Wed Dec 29, 2010 6:12 pm

I'd take that result now, but I want revenge. Think we have it well within ourselves to do them.
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Re: 0-0 away at Arsenal would be a good result or a disgrace?

Postby zuricity » Wed Dec 29, 2010 6:13 pm

Twobob wrote:One thing is almost nailed on though, there's about as much chance of a 0-0 there than me getting a start in our first 11!

The way they tore Chelsea a new ass hole I would happily take a point now.

But, on the day you have to attack them - trying to defend against them is a no hoper when they're on top note.

I'll be fookin bouncing if we did win though :-)



Tonights game for Chelsea is interesting too, they are not on form and arsenal aren't so great. I think city should feel very confident for next week and should look for the win. I think if we get the result the media will finally accept that city are in with a chance of the title.
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Re: 0-0 away at Arsenal would be a good result or a disgrace?

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Thu Dec 30, 2010 9:02 am

Bridge'srightfoot wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Dubciteh wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
john@staustell wrote:Seeing as how our lads were bizarrely (IMHO) slated for stifling Arsenal into a 0-0 draw at Emirates toward the end of last season, do people think that would be a good result next week? Or a disgrace again?

Personally I think we will/should follow our normal tactics of stopping the opposition, whilst we are now better equipped to counter than before and maybe win it. But if it is 0-0, I would regard that as a good result in current circumstances.



I thought it was good result then and I'd take it again. I thought critism was bizarre to say the least as well.


It wasnt bizarre at all.

We needed to win last season as was proven by the results that followed, they were also in the shit at the time and we were playing well.

This time round its different, there in the best form theyve been in years, a draw will allow us not lose ground on them so id take a draw right now.


Bollocks.

Draw at Arsenal was good result as long as we squeezed results against Villa and Spurs. We lost to Spurs and that was that. Hanging the outcome of your season on win at Arsenal was ridiculous. Arsenal had six wins and draw before they lost their away derby and to Wigan in bizarre fashion. Unless you mean that losing and drawing with Barcelona was indicator how low they had slumped?

Crying about draw at Arsenal was ridiculous, childish and bizarre.


Really?
Spurs had already lost to United, and a win over Arsenal would have taken us above Spurs and given that game a whole different complexity. It was one of the weakest Arsenal sides, no Fabregas, Arshavin etc and they had nothing to play for.

The fact we drew wasn't the problem, the fact we never attempted to win was.
Had we beaten Spurs, that would have been a good point V arsenal, as it happened we didn't, so it wasn't a good point and we bottled it.


exactly my point. It was good point until we lost to fucking Spuds. People however were moaning right after the game and there was already some people sharpening their knives. I also noticed well which particular people were moaning but let's not go there.
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Re: 0-0 away at Arsenal would be a good result or a disgrace?

Postby Original Dub » Thu Dec 30, 2010 1:48 pm

Douglas Higginbottom wrote:It would be a great shame if we set out for a goalless draw against Arsenal like we did last year. BUT if we go for the win and end up with that draw then that's fine.


Exactly.

These days the focus seems to be on winning the game as opposed to trying not to lose it.

I'd take a draw over a loss, but we knew that already.
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Re: 0-0 away at Arsenal would be a good result or a disgrace?

Postby Goataldo » Thu Dec 30, 2010 8:49 pm

Will prob be a long time before 0-0 at The Arse is a bad result.

Setting up for a draw with our squad in our position would pretty much be to sabotage our ambitions.
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Re: 0-0 away at Arsenal would be a good result or a disgrace?

Postby DoomMerchant » Thu Dec 30, 2010 11:22 pm

Wonderwall wrote:Amazing team as an attacking force but are woeful defensively. Playing for a draw is absolutely the wrong way to go, we need to get at them from the off and pin sagna and clichy back in their own half.


i agree...this is one to try and win 3-2 in a shootout if required and not play it out too conservatively...because the opportunity to play a lot of football on the ground will present itself. Looking forward to it...AFTER Blackpool. ;)
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Re: 0-0 away at Arsenal would be a good result or a disgrace?

Postby gillie » Thu Dec 30, 2010 11:35 pm

We can win at the Emirates their defence is fuckin woeful and the keeper is a nightmare.
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Re: 0-0 away at Arsenal would be a good result or a disgrace?

Postby brite blu sky » Thu Dec 30, 2010 11:43 pm

It certainly wouldn't be a disgrace.. depending how the game pans out it might be a bit disappointing.

The real issue here is about how much intent we have.. hence the harking back to last years game. We are better now, with better players and better understanding. Im going to view it with eyes wide open to see what Mancini does and what the players do.. it wont be a repeat of last year im sure.. i think we have a very good chance of coming away with the points, our set up is good for away games and the home game loss was totally distorted due to events. This will be different and Arsenal will be just as worried as us.. it is a huge test for both teams tbh.
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Re: 0-0 away at Arsenal would be a good result or a disgrace?

Postby avoidconfusion » Fri Dec 31, 2010 1:04 am

IanBishopsHaircut wrote:I'd take it..though it will be interesting to see how this one pans out with 11 City players on the pitch


Don't be silly. Did you not hear what Fabregas said after the match? We couldn't have beaten them even if we had 15!
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Re: 0-0 away at Arsenal would be a good result or a disgrace?

Postby The Original Special One » Fri Dec 31, 2010 4:37 am

IanBishopsHaircut wrote:I'd take it..though it will be interesting to see how this one pans out with 11 City players on the pitch

I think we can take them,- Chelsea were absolute shite, probably the worst I've seen them play in years and yet they might have got something out of the game,- but I'm wary of 'the 12th man'
Have we ever got anything from referees down there?
We've certainly been on the end of far too many shocking 'refereeing' decisions, even if, now that we're a member of the 'Aristocracy', we would be expecting to get a fairer rub of the green
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Re: 0-0 away at Arsenal would be a good result or a disgrace?

Postby The Original Special One » Fri Dec 31, 2010 4:38 am

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IanBishopsHaircut wrote:I'd take it..though it will be interesting to see how this one pans out with 11 City players on the pitch


Don't be silly. Did you not hear what Fabregas said after the match? We couldn't have beaten them even if we had 15!

That Fabregas is a slimy, sneaky, ass-licking cheat.
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Re: 0-0 away at Arsenal would be a good result or a disgrace?

Postby SORTED » Fri Dec 31, 2010 5:41 am

I have a feeling the way in which we set out our stall will be more important than the result, obviously we cannot disregard the outcome entirely, but for me the the manner in which we set about the task in hand will tell us a lot more about Mancini and the team than a standalone scoreline ever will.

I personally, and it's not a criticism, think he'll revert to type, citing a deadlock between two top teams as a fair and just result.

Hope I'm wrong tho'.
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Re: 0-0 away at Arsenal would be a good result or a disgrace?

Postby Swales4ever » Fri Dec 31, 2010 5:47 am

gillie wrote:We can win at the Emirates their defence is fuckin woeful and the keeper is a nightmare.


I am with you defense wise, but fabianski is defo a big step over almunia.

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Re: 0-0 away at Arsenal would be a good result or a disgrace?

Postby zeljeznicar » Fri Dec 31, 2010 8:25 am

Dzeko can play against Arsenal. Give him 30min, and 0-0 will 0-1!
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Re: 0-0 away at Arsenal would be a good result or a disgrace?

Postby john@staustell » Fri Dec 31, 2010 8:34 am

zeljeznicar wrote:Dzeko can play against Arsenal. Give him 30min, and 0-0 will 0-1!


It's a good point. But I'm rather hoping we really take them to the cleaners 3-0 this time.
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