CityFanFromRome wrote:johnny crossan wrote:
That's the issue in a nutshell, who do you leave out to play the U21s. After the clearout our replacements will all be expecting Champs League appearances. If I wasn't an intellectual pygmy I would have started with your post!
I've counted now and if i'm not mistaken, adding who stays to who should come we would have 24 senior players; one space free for an U21, and we would only need to leave one senior player out; just leave out a keeper and replace him with Karius from the U21, job done,w e have 25 players with four club trained. ;)
LookMumImOnMCF.net wrote:That's a speculative list, so it's only a speculative problem.
It's like saying what if Jessica Alba was shit in bed.
Dubaimancityfan wrote:LookMumImOnMCF.net wrote:That's a speculative list, so it's only a speculative problem.
It's like saying what if Jessica Alba was shit in bed.
If you're referring to my list, I don't think we will have a problem as we have a lot of flexibility in our squad.
johnny crossan wrote:Ted Hughes wrote:From the UEFA rule book.
Conditions for registration: List A
18.08 No club may have more than 25 players on List A during the season. As a
minimum, eight places are reserved exclusively for “locally trained players”
and no club may have more than four “association-trained players” listed on
these eight places on List A. List A must specify at least eight players who
qualify as being “locally trained”, as well as whether they are “club-trained” or
“association-trained”. The possible combinations that enable clubs to comply
with the List A requirements are set out in Annex VIII.
18.09 A “locally trained player” is either a “club-trained player” or an “associationtrained
player”.
18.10 A “club-trained player” is a player who, between the age of 15 (or the start of
the season during which he turns 15) and 21 (or the end of the season during
which he turns 21), and irrespective of his nationality and age, has been
registered with his current club for a period, continuous or not, of three entire
seasons (i.e. a period starting with the first official match of the relevant
national championship and ending with the last official match of that relevant
national championship) or of 36 months.
18.11 An “association-trained player” is a player who, between the age of 15 (or the
start of the season during which the player turns 15) and 21 (or the end of
the season during which the player turns 21), and irrespective of his
nationality and age, has been registered with a club or with other clubs
affiliated to the same national association as that of his current club for a
period, continuous or not, of three entire seasons or of 36 months.
18.12 If a club has fewer than eight locally trained players in its squad, then the
maximum number of players on List A is reduced accordingly.
That's exactly right Ted. So the crucial difference is the Premiership specifies 8 association-trained players (i.e. "home-grown") whereas UEFA specifies that of those 8, four must be club trained. Hence our problem - we haven't got them if SWP, Ned, Weiss, Logan etc all go and we have to sacrifice good players and expensive new signings to include U21 makeweights in the Champs League Squad.
Ted Hughes wrote:johnny crossan wrote:That's exactly right Ted. So the crucial difference is the Premiership specifies 8 association-trained players (i.e. "home-grown") whereas UEFA specifies that of those 8, four must be club trained. Hence our problem - we haven't got them if SWP, Ned, Weiss, Logan etc all go and we have to sacrifice good players and expensive new signings to include U21 makeweights in the Champs League Squad.
How much would we have missed Ned, Weiss, Logan & SWP so far?
We're allowed tewnty one other players before we have to worry about it.
johnny crossan wrote:Ted Hughes wrote:johnny crossan wrote:That's exactly right Ted. So the crucial difference is the Premiership specifies 8 association-trained players (i.e. "home-grown") whereas UEFA specifies that of those 8, four must be club trained. Hence our problem - we haven't got them if SWP, Ned, Weiss, Logan etc all go and we have to sacrifice good players and expensive new signings to include U21 makeweights in the Champs League Squad.
How much would we have missed Ned, Weiss, Logan & SWP so far?
We're allowed tewnty one other players before we have to worry about it.
So we go back to my first question and the point of the thread - which senior players do you leave out of the Champs League squad next season when the usual suspects have all moved on?
Esky wrote:I hate bullshit lists like that. Sad that people go to the effort and even sadder that people get sucked in. A complete waste of time.
Ted Hughes wrote:johnny crossan wrote:Ted Hughes wrote:johnny crossan wrote:That's exactly right Ted. So the crucial difference is the Premiership specifies 8 association-trained players (i.e. "home-grown") whereas UEFA specifies that of those 8, four must be club trained. Hence our problem - we haven't got them if SWP, Ned, Weiss, Logan etc all go and we have to sacrifice good players and expensive new signings to include U21 makeweights in the Champs League Squad.
How much would we have missed Ned, Weiss, Logan & SWP so far?
We're allowed tewnty one other players before we have to worry about it.
So we go back to my first question and the point of the thread - which senior players do you leave out of the Champs League squad next season when the usual suspects have all moved on?
None.
Forget your fantasy table & look at what we actually have now. We already have a European squad. We'll have less players to squeeze into it next season than we do now + unlimited U21's. We'll be able to sign a couple of players & still not worry about fitting them in.
We went through all this last season. We currently have players in the European squad who we don't need, who are there purely to fill spaces just for the hell of it + people like Bridge & Adebayor who will almost certainly go. We'll still have more 'home grown' players than we need even if we let Ned go, so we can dump 1 or 2 & sign 1 or 2 more players to replace them.
We don't have even the slightest problem any way you look at it.
johnny crossan wrote:Ted Hughes wrote:johnny crossan wrote:That's exactly right Ted. So the crucial difference is the Premiership specifies 8 association-trained players (i.e. "home-grown") whereas UEFA specifies that of those 8, four must be club trained. Hence our problem - we haven't got them if SWP, Ned, Weiss, Logan etc all go and we have to sacrifice good players and expensive new signings to include U21 makeweights in the Champs League Squad.
How much would we have missed Ned, Weiss, Logan & SWP so far?
We're allowed tewnty one other players before we have to worry about it.
So we go back to my first question and the point of the thread - which senior players do you leave out of the Champs League squad next season when the usual suspects have all moved on?
johnny crossan wrote:Ted Hughes wrote:johnny crossan wrote:Ted Hughes wrote:johnny crossan wrote:That's exactly right Ted. So the crucial difference is the Premiership specifies 8 association-trained players (i.e. "home-grown") whereas UEFA specifies that of those 8, four must be club trained. Hence our problem - we haven't got them if SWP, Ned, Weiss, Logan etc all go and we have to sacrifice good players and expensive new signings to include U21 makeweights in the Champs League Squad.
How much would we have missed Ned, Weiss, Logan & SWP so far?
We're allowed tewnty one other players before we have to worry about it.
So we go back to my first question and the point of the thread - which senior players do you leave out of the Champs League squad next season when the usual suspects have all moved on?
None.
Forget your fantasy table & look at what we actually have now. We already have a European squad. We'll have less players to squeeze into it next season than we do now + unlimited U21's. We'll be able to sign a couple of players & still not worry about fitting them in.
We went through all this last season. We currently have players in the European squad who we don't need, who are there purely to fill spaces just for the hell of it + people like Bridge & Adebayor who will almost certainly go. We'll still have more 'home grown' players than we need even if we let Ned go, so we can dump 1 or 2 & sign 1 or 2 more players to replace them.
We don't have even the slightest problem any way you look at it.
The quality of your ignorance is improving by the day but you still don't get it do you? Who do you leave out of our 25 man PL squad for the Champs League Squad - because that's what's gonna happen no matter how many feet your head is below the sand!
johnny crossan wrote:Esky wrote:I hate bullshit lists like that. Sad that people go to the effort and even sadder that people get sucked in. A complete waste of time.
whatever
LookMumImOnMCF.net wrote:That's a speculative list, so it's only a speculative problem.
It's like saying what if Jessica Alba was shit in bed.
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