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Re: Joe Hart

Postby citytilidie » Sun Jan 09, 2011 9:47 pm

Florida Blue wrote:Let's see if I get this right...

When Kolo makes a mistake, Hart saves him.
When Micah makes a mistake, Hart saves him.
When Joleon makes a mistake, Hart saves him.
When Zaba makes a mistake, Hart saves him.
If Kompany EVER were to make a mistake, Hart will save him.

But if Hart makes a mistake, no one saves him, and it is 100% his fault. He is apparently awful despite making several saves in the match (which you clearly must have head your head up your ass not to see), they clearly no longer count when he makes a one mistake.


Didn't Hart save the penalty Kompany gave away vs arse @ home?
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Re: Joe Hart

Postby the_georgian_genius » Sun Jan 09, 2011 9:48 pm

FA cup winners 2006 wrote:this is not just based on todays performance. I think shay is the keeper. if shay is not given a chance now he knows he never will get one and will prob leave in the next week or so. then we have a championship run with a very inexperienced keeper and no serious backup.

there is no reason why shay should not be given 7-10 games, something similar to what sven did with james, joe and kasper.


He's had his chance, last season was his chance and he showed the keeper he is. A decent prem keeper. There is a reason why he has never played for one of the top teams and why when he leaves here he wont play for one of the top teams.

There is a perfectly good reason why Shay Given should not be given 7-10 games, the reason is because we actually want to win something and subbing your best keeper is not a good way of achieving that is it?
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Re: Joe Hart

Postby Beeks » Sun Jan 09, 2011 9:49 pm

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Re: Joe Hart

Postby ronk » Sun Jan 09, 2011 9:50 pm

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craigmcfc wrote:Why does the end of a game always bring a thread like this to the board? He made a mistake, so did every other City player on the field, don't be so daft


Was just gonna say that. Its so fucking predictable.

Result was pretty shit, certain players were below par/not in their favoured position for long periods and switching the formation after SWP went off hindered us.

But the scapegoat thing every game and "lets drop him" is just boring at this stage.


Would that be an objection to the general scapegoating or the selection of this particular scapegoat.
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Re: Joe Hart

Postby Florida Blue » Sun Jan 09, 2011 9:52 pm

FA cup winners 2006 wrote:this is not just based on todays performance. I think shay is the keeper. if shay is not given a chance now he knows he never will get one and will prob leave in the next week or so. then we have a championship run with a very inexperienced keeper and no serious backup.

there is no reason why shay should not be given 7-10 games, something similar to what sven did with james, joe and kasper.


Yah know, the more you comment the dumber this post looks. Just go back to Spurs in round 1. Nuff said.
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Re: Joe Hart

Postby Florida Blue » Sun Jan 09, 2011 9:53 pm

citytilidie wrote:
Florida Blue wrote:Let's see if I get this right...

When Kolo makes a mistake, Hart saves him.
When Micah makes a mistake, Hart saves him.
When Joleon makes a mistake, Hart saves him.
When Zaba makes a mistake, Hart saves him.
If Kompany EVER were to make a mistake, Hart will save him.

But if Hart makes a mistake, no one saves him, and it is 100% his fault. He is apparently awful despite making several saves in the match (which you clearly must have head your head up your ass not to see), they clearly no longer count when he makes a one mistake.


Didn't Hart save the penalty Kompany gave away vs arse @ home?



That part was tongue-in-cheek. Kompany has been a rock, and his mistakes are seldom. But I believe you are correct, and my statement was as well.
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Re: Joe Hart

Postby Beefymcfc » Sun Jan 09, 2011 9:55 pm

England's, England's Number 1 ......... apart from that 1!
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Re: Joe Hart

Postby JonnyAsh » Sun Jan 09, 2011 10:00 pm

I'm sure when something like that happens, as it did to Joe today, it will focus him even more.
Every keeper makes errors, he will make more, but that's not a worry, just part of the game when they are isolated mistakes like this one was.
I expect him to be very focussed next game
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Re: Joe Hart

Postby bluej » Sun Jan 09, 2011 10:09 pm

FA cup winners 2006 wrote:this is not just based on todays performance. I think shay is the keeper. if shay is not given a chance now he knows he never will get one and will prob leave in the next week or so. then we have a championship run with a [highlight]very inexperienced keeper[/highlight] and no serious backup.

there is no reason why shay should not be given 7-10 games, something similar to what sven did with james, joe and kasper.


Someone who has made over 100 appearances for City (inc. Brum), all whilst in the Premier League is inexperienced? Mental.
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Re: Joe Hart

Postby Chinners » Sun Jan 09, 2011 10:11 pm

JonnyAsh wrote:I'm sure when something like that happens, as it did to Joe today, it will focus him even more.
Every keeper makes errors, he will make more, but that's not a worry, just part of the game when they are isolated mistakes like this one was.
I expect him to be very focussed next game


Agreed, he did the same after that mix up, which I can't recall against who at the mo, ... Wine ain't good for my memory
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Re: Joe Hart

Postby blues2win » Sun Jan 09, 2011 10:30 pm

I certainly don't think Joe should be dropped but one point has to be made. He fumbled the ball. Ok that can happen. However, his pathetic and feeble attempt to rescue the situation was unacceptable. He almost seemed to duck out of the challenge with the goalscorer.

Yes he has made many fine saves and is and should be England's number one. But today he cost us the game with his feebleness. I wouldn't like to see a repetition of his attitude during this incident.
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Re: Joe Hart

Postby aaron bond » Mon Jan 10, 2011 12:34 am

blues2win wrote:I certainly don't think Joe should be dropped but one point has to be made. He fumbled the ball. Ok that can happen. However, his pathetic and feeble attempt to rescue the situation was unacceptable. He almost seemed to duck out of the challenge with the goalscorer.

Yes he has made many fine saves and is and should be England's number one. But today he cost us the game with his feebleness. I wouldn't like to see a repetition of his attitude during this incident.


All keepers have fuck ups. I'd rather Joe's came against Leicester in the 3rd round of the FA Cup where we've still got a replay to make amends than in an important league match.
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Re: Joe Hart

Postby ryanmcfc » Mon Jan 10, 2011 1:55 am

I agree with a few of the posts above. I don't think the original bobble was the end of the world, but then you have to have the guts to fall on the ball and maybe take a kick from the opposition. I think that's part of being a goalkeeper.
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Re: Joe Hart

Postby Kiss_The_Goat » Mon Jan 10, 2011 4:56 am

Shit happens. Everybody makes mistakes, even the most solid of keepers, which is what Joe is. Yeh he could have done better, but as someone said above, i'd rather he makes a mistake like that in a 3rd round FA Cup game than a big Prem or European game. He'll learn from it. He'll be better for it. Thats football. He's still very young for a top class international goalkeeper remember.
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Re: Joe Hart

Postby Slim » Mon Jan 10, 2011 5:46 am

Shake it off, make sure it doesn't happen again, MOVE ON.
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Re: Joe Hart

Postby Slim » Mon Jan 10, 2011 5:47 am

Chinners wrote:
JonnyAsh wrote:I'm sure when something like that happens, as it did to Joe today, it will focus him even more.
Every keeper makes errors, he will make more, but that's not a worry, just part of the game when they are isolated mistakes like this one was.
I expect him to be very focussed next game


Agreed, he did the same after that mix up, which I can't recall against who at the mo, ... Wine ain't good for my memory


Blackburn mixup with Kolo....he hasn't come charging out of his area since so he has learnt.
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Re: Joe Hart

Postby Patrick » Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:35 am

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Re: Joe Hart

Postby Piccsnumberoneblue » Mon Jan 10, 2011 9:10 am

Ok it was a fuck up, but Joe rarely cocks up and so we can allow him the odd one. That sort of thing happens to goalkeepers. Not a problem for Hart at all.
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Re: Joe Hart

Postby zuricity » Mon Jan 10, 2011 9:30 am

Joe's made over 200 appearances , over 70 for us in goal. In the times he's played for city i can only think of about 3 serious mistakes. He's our last line of defence and it always seems worse there. Perhaps our defenders get a little bit complacent because he is so good ?

Joe is an experienced, but young goalkeeper, I worry more about his distribution at times than any one time he errs, like yesterday. These things happen all the time , in almost every game.

He'll save us and points more times than he will sink us. He's the best around, certainly in the pl, where Czech has shown incredible weakness this year so far
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Re: Joe Hart

Postby Mikhail Chigorin » Mon Jan 10, 2011 12:57 pm

Joe Hart is still five years, or so, from reaching his peak. If he's this good now, he'll be awesome with a few more seasons under his belt, so he needs to be supported, not ripped apart by know-nothing fans.

You could see by his reaction that he was gutted by his mistake, but he didn't let his head drop and let the error affect him for the rest of the game.

If you were also wishing to be totally tendentious, it could be argued to some extent that when Joe spilled the shot, the Leicester player came in with raised boots and studs showing, which some referees might have deemed dangerous play. If that mistake had been made by Van der Saar at the Swamp, it's not beyond the bounds of possibility that the goal would not have been allowed to stand.

On a completely separate issue, one positive from the game was Milner's sound performance playing in his preferred, more central role......he took his goal really nicely as well.
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